Bound books

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:57:44 pm

Too clean

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:05:03 pm

That looks great. good job there.

JustinOfDacia · Post by **JustinOfDacia** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:17:38 pm

Steve Topper wrote:I've already started binding my Valiant collection. To date, I've had Library Binding Company in Waco Texas bind 17 different volumes

Archer and Armstrong (1 volume)
Armorines - Valiant and Acclaim (1 volume)
Bloodshot - Valiant and Acclaim (4 volumes)
Chaos Effect (1 volume)
Eternal Warrior (3 volumes)
Harbinger -Valiant and Acclaim (2 volumes)
Quantum & Woody (1 volume)
Second Life of Doctor Mirage (1 volume)
Secret Weapons (1 volume)
Timewalker (1 volume)
Unity (1 volume)

Currently at the binder is the complete Shadowman (Valiant and Acclaim) being bound in 3 volumes and The Visitor (1 volume)

Nice. I might have to get extras of all the Unity issues and bind them one day.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:05:56 am

SCKAO on this site sells em for dirt cheep in minty condition for like 15 bucks shipping or something, hit him up.

JustinOfDacia wrote:
Steve Topper wrote:I've already started binding my Valiant collection. To date, I've had Library Binding Company in Waco Texas bind 17 different volumes

Archer and Armstrong (1 volume)
Armorines - Valiant and Acclaim (1 volume)
Bloodshot - Valiant and Acclaim (4 volumes)
Chaos Effect (1 volume)
Eternal Warrior (3 volumes)
Harbinger -Valiant and Acclaim (2 volumes)
Quantum & Woody (1 volume)
Second Life of Doctor Mirage (1 volume)
Secret Weapons (1 volume)
Timewalker (1 volume)
Unity (1 volume)

Currently at the binder is the complete Shadowman (Valiant and Acclaim) being bound in 3 volumes and The Visitor (1 volume)
Nice. I might have to get extras of all the Unity issues and bind them one day.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:29:47 am

http://p206.ezboard.com/fmarvelmasterwo ... =706.topic

David Banks http://www.dpbanks.com the liason for Capitol Bindery is now starting a venture to bind softcover books, including full wrap around covers you can design.

He is testing 100 books including the Archer and Armstrong one that caught my eye.

I find the idea of softcovers more interesting to match some books where they were started in tpb then stopped, or certain runs were bound.

-Neil

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:37:07 am

Oh great

Now what do I choose.. hard cover or paperback!!

Do you think the paperback will be less expensive to produce? Im thinking it might feel better in my hands when I read it.

Any thoughts?

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:36:49 pm

As with all choices, it depends.

I like the heft of a thick hardcover, but if the price of the softcovers is economical enough they would get a few of my books, especially since I like being able to design a universal trade dress for long runs.

David has not yet released any pricing for softcover editions through singleboundstudios. Though it will be hard pressed to beat the 15/book price Library binding currently offers.

So once the prices come out then I can start figuring out what works best for each.

-Neil

Phoenix8008 · Post by **Phoenix8008** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:53:35 am

WOW! Noob here and I'm trying to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing these pics of a hardbound Valiant collection! I WANT!!

I had never heard about the possibility of doing this. And on first thought I cringed at the idea of chopping up the comics I love, but after seeing them sitting on a bookshelf I could picture them on my bookshelf and see how easy and nice it would be to just pick up and start reading. No opening and closing multiple bags from inside the comic box. And those dustjackets! Man if I ever get any books like this made can I just buy copies of those dustjackets?!

Now my only problem is having to actually get any of the comic I would need to actually make any books like that. Given time, it will happen though and I hope to be able to do this myself someday. Really beautiful guys. You ROCK! Big time.

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:16:00 pm

These look cool. That's a great way to have a reading copy, so that you can keep your "pristine" copies safe and secure.

SO anyone figure out how many hardcovers it would take to do the Valiant Universe?

There are 690 regular issues - so may 28 to 30 books or so?

Chris

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:52:24 pm

I am roughly figuring on around 45 books. This includes all of the VH-1 and VH-2 comics.

Right now I have 25 books bound, covering 517 issues. My estimates for future books are:

HARD Corps (2 books)
Solar (3 books)
Magnus (4 books)
Ninjak (2 books)
X-O Manowar (4 books)
Geomancer/Psi-Lords (1 book)
Trinity Angels (1 book)
Doctor Tomorrow (1 book)
Deathmate/Miscellaneous VH-1 (1 book)
Miscellaneous VH-2 (1 book)
Gold Key Reprints (1 book)

for 21 more books, or 46 total.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:29:44 pm

Wow, 46 books all together.. at about $25 a pop.. thats $1150.00 PLUS shipping back and forth.. Youch!!!!

Wow thats a ton of cash...

Do I REALLY want to spend that much...

Sure.... may as well get started

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:38:41 pm

Archer and Armstrong

Ok, so there are 26 issues.. but..

what is suggested for the following problems:

#8 Upside down EW cover.. should I cut it off and set it in just after the A&A cover?

#25 Do I add the EW issue in between A&A issue25 and 26?

#26 Do I really need to keep the EW half of the book or can I cut it out?

Should I add Chaos Effect Omega at the end of this run? It showed the last moments of A&A??

Questions, questions, questions... I just want to do it right

If I did it this way I would be adding 2.5 books..? Would that mean that Id need to have this run bound into 2 big books?

greg · Post by **greg** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:52:33 pm

Steve Topper wrote:

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:49:41 pm

#8 Upside down EW cover.. should I cut it off and set it in just after the A&A cover?

The cover to A&A/EW #8 is not an upside cover. It's a wraparound cover. I simply pulled the staples out of the book, took the cover off and folded it back on itself. This way the cover opens into the complete image.

#25 Do I add the EW issue in between A&A issue25 and 26?

Yes, because it's the second part of the "What I did to infuriate the Sect" storyline that starts in A&A #25.

#26 Do I really need to keep the EW half of the book or can I cut it out?

I kept it in because A&A/EW #26 is basically a two-part story in a flip book. I used a paper cutter after I removed the staples to cut the book in half. I flipped the A&A part so everything was laid out in the proper order. One Chaos Effect ad was upside down, but it's an ad. I didn't care.

Should I add Chaos Effect Omega at the end of this run? It showed the last moments of A&A??

I didn't in this case. But I had already had Chaos Effect bound with all of the chapters and epilogues in one volume, so it didn't seem a big deal to me. If you're not planning on putting together a complete Chaos Effect, you probably should consider it.

If I did it this way I would be adding 2.5 books..? Would that mean that Id need to have this run bound into 2 big books?

Nope, I bound the whole thing in one huge, honking volume -- 1032 pages. That's probably the limits on what I would bind in a single volume, but I didn't really want to break it into two 500+ page books. A quick map would say A&A 0-13 (520 pages) and A&A 14-26 (512 pages) with the added Eternal Warrior material you asked about earlier. Adding Chaos Effect Omega to the second book would make it 548 pages. I guess either way would be okay. Like I said, I like my single volume and would probably repeat the process if I were to do it again.

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:52:31 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:Wow, 46 books all together.. at about $25 a pop.. thats $1150.00 PLUS shipping back and forth.. Youch!!!!

Wow thats a ton of cash...

Do I REALLY want to spend that much...

Sure.... may as well get started

And that is why I only send out six books at a time. And about once a month. $133 (six books and shipping) is a lot easier for the boss-lady to accept.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:05:41 am

Steve,
I am starting to Map Quantum and Woody. I am curious how you did yours.
Basically where did you put Quantum and Woody 32 and the GOAT 1-Shot?

thanks

-Neil

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:37:59 pm

ncameron wrote:I am starting to Map Quantum and Woody. I am curious how you did yours.
Basically where did you put Quantum and Woody 32 and the GOAT 1-Shot?

Neil,

I just put them all in numerical order. I started with Q&W 0 (which was autographed by Priest and Mark Bright), then just kept going from 1-21, then jumped to 32. Even though they were published out of order, Priest supposedly structured the story so that 32 would been in the correct sequence.

For THE GOAT one-shot, I actually held that book out and will be including it in my Acclaim Miscellany volume.

ncameron · Post by **ncameron** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:01:30 am

So the results of that Archer and Armstrong tpb are in.

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I like the look and am interested in the whole design your own cover aspect. Plus no real gutter loss.

-Neil

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:03:12 am

ncameron wrote:Steve,
I am starting to Map Quantum and Woody. I am curious how you did yours.
Basically where did you put Quantum and Woody 32 and the GOAT 1-Shot?

thanks

-Neil

Don't forget the EW issue where The Goat eats the fold map!

Also, the Goat special fits into Q&W continuity. I believe that there's both a panel from the Special in the appropriate issue, as well as a "credit" to Bright at the beginning of the Goat book, for working the 2 stories together so well.

BoH

Rubiks-Q-Bert · Post by **Rubiks-Q-Bert** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:43:30 pm

ncameron wrote:http://p206.ezboard.com/fmarvelmasterwo ... =706.topic

David Banks http://www.dpbanks.com the liason for Capitol Bindery is now starting a venture to bind softcover books, including full wrap around covers you can design.

He is testing 100 books including the Archer and Armstrong one that caught my eye.

I find the idea of softcovers more interesting to match some books where they were started in tpb then stopped, or certain runs were bound.

-Neil

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-made-Archer- ... dZViewItem

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:28:22 pm

So I was looking at my Psi Lords... and wondering...

Would it be REALLY stupid to put one of my PsiLord golds in with this bunch to be bound?

Would it be like Im throwing it away?

I guess the bigger question is: If a person is going to bind a set of books, should variants be added at any time?

I know this is all about opinion and what the books value is to you.. just wondering about your opinions

thePike · Post by **thePike** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:32:54 pm

As with all things of this sort, it's yours so do what you will...

But my vote would be "no", and here's why...

The binding process seems to pretty much put all the collected into one place for the strict purpose of reading together. I'm sure, when collected in a nice neat package like this that it will create it's own level of collectability, but I don't think the value of that collectability is going to increase or decreas on weather there is a "Gold" book included or not. It might have some novelty value, I'm sure, but overall I would think that the Gold book would have more value on it's own then bound with a collection (especially given the ready availability of the the regular #1)

But thats just my limited opinion and do what you will!

I gotta admit I really like these bound books, but my problem is that I don't know what DNV is going to reprint in HC or TPB form and what ever they do, I'd rather have theirs than mine.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:42:55 pm

In My Opinion you don't need golds but say if you had a damaged one than why not, just for the overall look of the book you assemble.

robb77 · Post by **robb77** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:59:38 am

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IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:25:16 pm

Cam, I saw that you are bidding on some of the paperbacks. Will you leave those as is or ar you going to convert it to a hard cover?

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