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The formation of the sect. Didn't we get that in the last two issues of A&A? Or will this go into a little bit more history from the sect viewpoint?

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cjv wrote:The formation of the sect. Didn't we get that in the last two issues of A&A? Or will this go into a little bit more history from the sect viewpoint?

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I hope it does. Like, what happened to Aram and Phoebe's son. Maybe he founded the sect... or maybe they thought he was the anti-Christ.
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Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.

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xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
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ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool

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xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
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ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.

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xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.
:hm:
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ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.
:hm:
He might have known they believed they could kill him at a certain time in a certain place,
and was surprised they didn't invite him to the "party" at that time and place.

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greg wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote: Maybe we'll see Aram's 5,000th birthday party and what actually happened.
now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.
:hm:
He might have known they believed they could kill him at a certain time in a certain place,
and was surprised they didn't invite him to the "party" at that time and place.
Aram sent out the invitations to his party, though. He's the one that didn't invite the sect.
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ManofTheAtom wrote:
greg wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote: now THAT would be cool
I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.
:hm:
He might have known they believed they could kill him at a certain time in a certain place,
and was surprised they didn't invite him to the "party" at that time and place.
Aram sent out the invitations to his party, though. He's the one that didn't invite the sect.
Ah. He was joking. Clearly.

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greg wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
greg wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote: I'd be curious to know why the Sect thought he would invite them. That would require their having been friends or something, no?
Maybe he told them one thing and did another, thus becoming the Great Deciever? I mean, who knows. Maybe he promised wine and all he could find was ale.
:hm:
He might have known they believed they could kill him at a certain time in a certain place,
and was surprised they didn't invite him to the "party" at that time and place.
Aram sent out the invitations to his party, though. He's the one that didn't invite the sect.
Ah. He was joking. Clearly.
We'll know for sure in September :thumb:
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Maybe we won't know for sure in September. Maybe the story will end right before we get the payoff we want. Perhaps (figners crossed) when/if they make A&A an ongoing title again, we will get the full story.

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xodacia81 wrote:Maybe we won't know for sure in September. Maybe the story will end right before we get the payoff we want. Perhaps (figners crossed) when/if they make A&A an ongoing title again, we will get the full story.
I would really like to see a story set during their time in the Lost Land, with members from the Sect fighting members of the Archies. That be fun, heh
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ManofTheAtom wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Maybe we won't know for sure in September. Maybe the story will end right before we get the payoff we want. Perhaps (figners crossed) when/if they make A&A an ongoing title again, we will get the full story.
I would really like to see a story set during their time in the Lost Land, with members from the Sect fighting members of the Archies. That be fun, heh
I could roll with that

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xodacia81 wrote:Early on, I always thought the funniest, most logical and astonishingly "VALIANT" explination for the Sect thinking ARAM was the Devil was because, well....he WAS. Or, at least, given that he was an ancient, debauched being, they bult him up as such. Now that Shooter is writing the origin of the Sect, maybe we will finally get an answer as to what really happned. As funny as the Mike Baron explination was, it never fully satsfied me.
IF something in the shooter story invalidates Mike's explanation, then presumably those comics with that explanation are no longer canon. :)

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You know what also might be interesting - a story about Armstrong's satchel.

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cjv wrote:You know what also might be interesting - a story about Armstrong's satchel.

Chris
His magic satchel???



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slym2none wrote:
cjv wrote:You know what also might be interesting - a story about Armstrong's satchel.

Chris
His magic satchel???



-slym *is trying to get MotA's "goat"* :twisted:
Is this going to crossover with Felix . . .

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i'm glad to see that they'll be delving back into the sect. i thought it was a big mistake to write them off-and to do it with so little fanfare.

"stop bugging me-forever. uh-ok." pretty ho-hum as i recall.

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slym2none wrote:
cjv wrote:You know what also might be interesting - a story about Armstrong's satchel.

Chris
His magic satchel???



-slym *is trying to get MotA's "goat"* :twisted:
:roll:

The satchel contained a miniature tesseract, which gave it an infinite ammount of space to contain Aram's possessions.

Items like the wand that transformed Mahmud into a pig were not magical, they were an advanced form of science that Ivar littered across time whenever he traveled into the past from the future. For instance, the wand didn't magically transform Mahmud into a pig,what it did was alter his body on a genetic level in a process similar to what transformed Phil Seleski into energy.

The wand rearrange Mahmud's matter so he would look like a pig.

Now, none of that is in the comics, but if someone felt like it they could come up with a credible, scientific explanation, to explain how "magic" works in the VALIANT Universe.

A magic satchel with infinite space is no different than Doctor Who's TARDIS, which is based on science and not magic.
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YES! It worked...

:lol: :thumb: :twisted:



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Post by KenClarkson4Prez »

hey everybody,
first post for me. Glad to see a healthy Valiant community still exists.

A&A were always my number 1 book. The one thing that always bothered me is how quickly Archer went from the angry young man, bent on vengeance, that we saw in the flashback from A&A 0, to the peaceful, level-headed youth of the rest of the series. Could his parents being incarcerated really have illicited such a radical change alone? maybe something ELSE happened to him after arriving back in the U.S. Maybe THAT would make a good future story.
Thoughts?

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ok, so what do you want to know about the story? Basically Armstrong *SQUEE* off a lot of people, so they get together and form a group to try to kill him.

Armstrong's 5,000th party is a blast, literally. It's his 5,000th party, not his 5,000th birthday. Aram has a HOT time in Herculaneum and then is blamed for the resulting mess left after his party. It cements his reputation as "The Devil Incarnate".

The Shooter interview following the story is great, as well. Gotta love that VEI made sure they included a disclaimer after the interview...

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Gotta love that VEI made sure they included a disclaimer after the interview...
Please share....


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