Is Archer and Armstrong a limited series?

orbitalshift · Post by **orbitalshift** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:03:04 am

I listened to the word balloon podcast over the weekend and Fred Van Lente said it was a 5 issue limited series. I wasn't aware of this, did I miss an announcement?

http://wordballoon.libsyn.com/webpage/t ... eve-lieber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:17:23 am

WHAT!?!?

I can't listen right now, but this would be a stunner...though I guess technically none of the books were announced as "ongoing series" we all assumed...well, you know what they say about those who assume...

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:21:29 am

Summer of Valiant - Winter of Woe?

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:35:18 am

orbitalshift wrote:I listened to the word balloon podcast over the weekend and Fred Van Lente said it was a 5 issue limited series. I wasn't aware of this, did I miss an announcement?

http://wordballoon.libsyn.com/webpage/t ... eve-lieber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's news to me... 5 issues would be August, September, October, November, and December.
Maybe something else is planned (for all the immortal brothers) starting in January 2013?

(Eternal Warrior is "Winter 2012" which is Dec. 2012 and Jan/Feb 2013,
and we've seen the character design sketches for Ivar.)

BloodShot · Post by **BloodShot** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:35:56 am

BruceReville wrote:Summer of Valiant - Winter of Woe?

Well put; hopefully, that's not the case

...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:27:29 pm

orbitalshift wrote:I listened to the word balloon podcast over the weekend and Fred Van Lente said it was a 5 issue limited series. I wasn't aware of this, did I miss an announcement?

http://wordballoon.libsyn.com/webpage/t ... eve-lieber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting. I wonder why that was never mentioned before?

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:42:58 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
orbitalshift wrote:I listened to the word balloon podcast over the weekend and Fred Van Lente said it was a 5 issue limited series. I wasn't aware of this, did I miss an announcement?

http://wordballoon.libsyn.com/webpage/t ... eve-lieber" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting. I wonder why that was never mentioned before?

That does seem a bit strange.

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:12:41 pm

Hopefully, Fred was referring to the length of the first story arc.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:28:31 pm

OP is a deadlink.

if it's a limited series, we riot!

[edit]

or the awesome that is VFans.com just crashed it, heh.

Aram · Post by **Aram** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:58:49 pm

Zaphod wrote:
if it's a limited series, we riot!

Now now thats a bit extreme.

However... I have purchased some picket sign supplies and reserved 17 tour buses in california... The plan will be to travel east picking up all able bodied protestors along the way so that the buses will be filled by the time we reach VEI headquarters...

Thereby beginning the "Occupy Valiant" movement until they yeild to our demands and give us 99%ers our fair share of quality ongoing monthly titles!

J/k... (i havent reserved the buses yet)

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:06:42 pm

Zaphod wrote:
if it's a limited series, we riot!

MarkRoseHFX · Post by **MarkRoseHFX** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:04:02 pm

seems really odd that it would be a limited series. maybe he's only working on 5?

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:22:55 pm

I am pretty sure it had been confirmed that all 4 titles were ongoing.
DAN

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:17:51 pm

From what I have gathered, I think VEI plans on having each story arc be 5 issues long unless otherwise specified.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:32:34 pm

Listened to most of the (rambling and somewhat interesting)podcast up to the point of the Valiant stuff.

if you want to listen to just the valiant stuff, ff to 51:30.

he says it is a 5 issue mini...and is pretty firm with that. His explanation of the premise is a bit spoilery (plot points) but it sounds really really interesting.

Spoilers below

I am reading into the comment, what I took is that Aram might not be immortal, he mentioned that Aram "holds he secret of his own immortality and the secret of great power that fueled a pre-Great Flood society" the arc focuses on A&A having to searching out a device that could bring about the end of the world. Aram hid parts of this device around the world and so our hero's are trying to find it before The Sect do.

Very interesting. I wonder if they are going with a limited series it leads into EW in some way. I really really REALLY wanted this to be an ongoing series.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:35:41 pm

wow, that spoiler code sucks. I made the text color black so you can click and drag over the area if you want to read it.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:17:31 pm

I would be very shocked if A&A was a mini, but I guess we'll see. Anyone talk to Dino or tweet Valiant to see if this is true?

edit: just tweeted.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:17:31 pm

If it's a mini, I'm good with that. In fact, I think that would be the better way to go. Everyone loves A&A for BWS's stuff. After that, and IMO even some of the BWS stuff, it wasn't very good.

Minis would ensure the best stories are put out there and they aren't just putting out garbage to fill a month. Buddy books DO tend to get old quick in the marketplace.

MrBigFeathas · Post by **MrBigFeathas** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:32:03 pm

400yrs wrote:If it's a mini, I'm good with that. In fact, I think that would be the better way to go. Everyone loves A&A for BWS's stuff. After that, and IMO even some of the BWS stuff, it wasn't very good.

Minis would ensure the best stories are put out there and they aren't just putting out garbage to fill a month. Buddy books DO tend to get old quick in the marketplace.

I completely agree.

arghh! · Post by **arghh!** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:35:25 pm

I am going to be bummed if it is a mini series with 4 covers for the first issue. For some reason that seems like over kill to have as many variants of #1 as the total issues in the run.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:03:18 pm

Dear Valiant:

Dark Horse tried the limited series after limited series after limited series.

Without saying 'that sucks' or 'don't do that' or 'I won't buy if you do that...' Um...

Dark Key isn't really producing much anymore are they?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:17:33 pm

kevinbastos wrote:Dear Valiant:

Dark Horse tried the limited series after limited series after limited series.

Without saying 'that sucks' or 'don't do that' or 'I won't buy if you do that...' Um...

Dark Key isn't really producing much anymore are they?

Hellboy. BPRD. Series of LSs produced by Dark Horse.

You can't compare anything to Dark Key except as a warning not to allow crappy art to be published in books telling 60s stories.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:37:53 pm

400yrs wrote:Hellboy. BPRD. Series of LSs produced by Dark Horse.

You can't compare anything to Dark Key except as a warning not to allow crappy art to be published in books telling 60s stories.

All I'm saying is, if Valiant wants to be 'setting a new pace,' that road has been traveled and lost. Not just by Dark Key characters. By Aliens, Star Wars, Buffy, and yes, Gold Key Dark Horse books. Solicitations until September 26, 2012 includes 109 comics.

21 are past issue 10.

That's under twenty percent.

If Valiant keeps producing great stuff, I will keep buying. But if they keep re-launching comic book lines over and over again with four different covers, I won't lean on my comic shop to keep buying all of the books to push for the 1:50, 1:20, etc.

That might eventually affect the long-term growth.

I see Dark Horse perpetually as a Dark Horse - but one that won't ever win, really.

If Valiant wants to be that third company - they should do something different than Dark Horse.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:42:17 pm

I'm all for limited series on somewhat ancillary characters that might not be able to pull their own weight in an ongoing series, but a&A is definitely not in that category. Geomancer, perhaps, but not Aram.

Greg should have a hotline to the VEI offices to squelch rumours (?) like this.

FormerReader · Post by **FormerReader** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:41:35 pm

Disappointing.

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