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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:30 am 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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http://www.newsarama.com/comics/valiant-june-2013-solicitations.html

No new titles... :mad:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:07 pm 
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Yeah what's up with that, I was expecting something to drop :|

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:15 pm 
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You say that.

I say...

More new titles... :!: That means regular, pullbox, 1:20, 1:50 special classic rock homage covers, plus second printings.

No more new titles? :banana:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:18 pm 
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I am disappoint.

Was really hoping for the new Eternal Warrior series to be announced! :!:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:34 pm 
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I wouldn't expect a new title DURING the Harbinger Wars... did someone imply there would be one? :hm:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:42 pm 
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I'm not going to complain about a lack of new titles either! My wallet is taxed enough! Take your time, Valiant! :P


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:47 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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greg wrote:
I wouldn't expect a new title DURING the Harbinger Wars... did someone imply there would be one? :hm:


No, I think we were just deducing that a second Summer of VALIANT would roll out in a similar manner to the first. Meaning: one new title each month to allow the marketplace to absorb them. Since Fred and Dino confirmed there'd be 3 new books, we figured June, July and August.

Obviously that is not the case and we may get a book out of Planet Death in July and two out of Harby Wars in August. I don't think there can be too much argument about September being "Summer" like there was about November being "Winter" with the EW tease.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:56 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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Also, is Patch no longer writing Shadowman either? I know he was leaving art duties for at least an arc to draw Suicide Squad at DC, but is he off the book completely? Anyone have any idea on this?

I don't think it will effect the writing much, if at all, but I would genuinely miss his art if that's the case.

On the other hand, De La Torre is dope and his style will fit great on the book. And Garbett is the fill in master!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:28 pm 
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BugsySig wrote:
greg wrote:
I wouldn't expect a new title DURING the Harbinger Wars... did someone imply there would be one? :hm:


No, I think we were just deducing that a second Summer of VALIANT would roll out in a similar manner to the first. Meaning: one new title each month to allow the marketplace to absorb them. Since Fred and Dino confirmed there'd be 3 new books, we figured June, July and August.

Obviously that is not the case and we may get a book out of Planet Death in July and two out of Harby Wars in August. I don't think there can be too much argument about September being "Summer" like there was about November being "Winter" with the EW tease.


Maybe instead of The Summer of Valiant they'll do a promotion like The Fall of Valiant?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:32 pm 
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BugsySig wrote:
I don't think there can be too much argument about September being "Summer" like there was about November being "Winter" with the EW tease.

Nope, no argument at all.

Most of June is still Spring. Most of September is still Summer. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:06 pm 
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kevinbastos wrote:
BugsySig wrote:



You say that.

I say...

More new titles... :!: That means regular, pullbox, 1:20, 1:50 special classic rock homage covers, plus second printings.

No more new titles? :banana:


Classic rock homage covers?! :headbang:

Just wanted to use that smilie.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:33 pm 
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19 covers for 6 titles?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:35 pm 
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April is the biggest reason I gave up on getting anything but the basic covers. Couldn't afford it anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:38 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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Bubba wrote:
19 covers for 6 titles?


They work. Check the sales numbers when there are multiple variants. Sucks for collectors, but it is what it is.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:38 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
I don't think there can be too much argument about September being "Summer" like there was about November being "Winter" with the EW tease.

Nope, no argument at all.

Most of June is still Spring. Most of September is still Summer. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:41 pm 
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It's not about being affordable, it's about how does 19 covers help sales?

Looking at the other thread, all these covers are not helping. It's doing the opposite.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:13 pm 
Let's play a game I like to call "just the tip."
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Bubba wrote:
It's not about being affordable, it's about how does 19 covers help sales?

Looking at the other thread, all these covers are not helping. It's doing the opposite.


X0 #9 had a 1:50 variant, had a 3.5k bump, then sold 5k less the following month :?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:15 pm 
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Interesting release timings:

The prior couple months it's been:
First Week - Harbinger Wars, Shadowman
Second Week - Bloodshot A&A
Third Week - Harbinger, X-O

June is looking like:
6/5 - A&A, Shadowman, X-O: All the non-Harbinger Wars titles
6/12 - Harbinger Wars
6/19 - Bloodshot, Harbinger

Wonder what happened to shift the schedule around?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:17 pm 
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BugsySig wrote:
Bubba wrote:
It's not about being affordable, it's about how does 19 covers help sales?

Looking at the other thread, all these covers are not helping. It's doing the opposite.


X0 #9 had a 1:50 variant, had a 3.5k bump, then sold 5k less the following month :?

No 1:50 for xo #9


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:33 pm 
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Looks really good,shall get everything but the trade,as always.As for new titles I wasn't expecting any before the end of Harbinger war so I think it might indeed start in July,but what I wonder is which one shall be the first.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:07 pm 
Is it Dee-no or Die-no? Dunno.
Is it Dee-no or Die-no? Dunno.
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Also, is Patch no longer writing Shadowman either? I know he was leaving art duties for at least an arc to draw Suicide Squad at DC, but is he off the book completely? Anyone have any idea on this?

I don't think it will effect the writing much, if at all, but I would genuinely miss his art if that's the case.

On the other hand, De La Torre is dope and his style will fit great on the book. And Garbett is the fill in master!

I asked Patch via Twitter if he was staying on the book, he didn't respond which is unusual for him so I take that to mean he may be stepping away from the book?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:29 pm 
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Also, is Patch no longer writing Shadowman either? I know he was leaving art duties for at least an arc to draw Suicide Squad at DC, but is he off the book completely? Anyone have any idea on this?

I don't think it will effect the writing much, if at all, but I would genuinely miss his art if that's the case.

On the other hand, De La Torre is dope and his style will fit great on the book. And Garbett is the fill in master!

I asked Patch via Twitter if he was staying on the book, he didn't respond which is unusual for him so I take that to mean he may be stepping away from the book?


There could be something going on behind the scenes we're not aware of. Personality or schedule conflicts, that sort of thing. It's kind of unusual that Shadowman #5 had, what was it, 3-4 artists on a single book?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:53 pm 
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Xtianhardy wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Also, is Patch no longer writing Shadowman either? I know he was leaving art duties for at least an arc to draw Suicide Squad at DC, but is he off the book completely? Anyone have any idea on this?

I don't think it will effect the writing much, if at all, but I would genuinely miss his art if that's the case.

On the other hand, De La Torre is dope and his style will fit great on the book. And Garbett is the fill in master!

I asked Patch via Twitter if he was staying on the book, he didn't respond which is unusual for him so I take that to mean he may be stepping away from the book?


There could be something going on behind the scenes we're not aware of. Personality or schedule conflicts, that sort of thing. It's kind of unusual that Shadowman #5 had, what was it, 3-4 artists on a single book?


Do we know if he's doing the writing as well as the art on Suicide Squad? Not to long ago (again on Twitter) he said he's a writer/artist package now, maybe the lure of writing at DC has tempted him away? :?


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He had some odd tweets the other morning that he has since removed, something about the main purpose of a comic is to entertain.... related it to thinking anything otherwise being an ego thing. He also tweeted something about just because someone researches on "x" - it was an ancient place in India I believe - doesn't make you an expert... Wish I could remember more details.

I was wondering what was up - seemed like he had a beef with someone. Then I saw the solicitations later... Definitely something going on.

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