Round 4 - discussions (voting ends Monday 4/4/2005)

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:49 pm

Round 4 has been posted today (Sunday, 4/1/2005)

4a represents regular issues, 4b is variants/specials, etc. 4 games total.

Winners in Round 4 will be the "Final Four" for the tournament.

So... Get to votin'!

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:55 pm

Magnus #1 vs Solar #10 arghhhh

Steel Nation part 1 vs Alpha & Omega part 10 arghhh

childres · Post by **childres** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:55 pm

The CEAR vs. Pink is a killer!

-Joe

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:02 pm

Magnus #1 > Solar #10 anyday!!!

~The Unblessed Soul

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:04 pm

childres wrote:

The CEAR vs. Pink is a killer!

-Joe

uh Pink. remember what these were like in 93? Cear is a vc.com made book. Without this site that book would be nothing. What is the Chaos Effect compared to Harbinger!

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:10 pm

dino wrote:Cear is a vc.com made book. Without this site that book would be nothing. What is the Chaos Effect compared to Harbinger!

VC.com MADE the prices what they are today. Back before I left in '03, I loathed seeing people post saying they had told so and so, or this dealer, or someone else about this site.

Cant change the past and all those flocking now.

~The Unblessed Soul

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:21 pm

Unblessed wrote:
dino wrote:Cear is a vc.com made book. Without this site that book would be nothing. What is the Chaos Effect compared to Harbinger!
VC.com MADE the prices what they are today. Back before I left in '03, I loathed seeing people post saying they had told so and so, or this dealer, or someone else about this site.

Cant change the past and all those flocking now.

~The Unblessed Soul

I'm confused, are you agreeing with me? elaborating or disagreeing?

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:47 pm

UNITY RED!!!

Seriously though, really tough picks. Although I figured Rai #3 should win over Harbinger #1 just because it's more engrossing, better cover and more dynamic, I'm sure Harbinger will win because of what it stood for 15 years ago.

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:18 pm

I blame the site for more than just CEAR Red.

~The Unblessed Soul

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:22 pm

Unblessed wrote:I blame the site for more than just CEAR Red.

~The Unblessed Soul

I don't think that's fair, hobojoe would have still been the same with or without this site, he would just be inflicting it on another board.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:26 pm

Unblessed wrote:I blame the site for more than just CEAR Red.

~The Unblessed Soul

Well Solar 10 still underated, go Solar 10

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:52 pm

Getting really hard now. Here are my deciding factors as most now are equal on many levels.

Round 4a - Harbinger 1 First Issue (with coupon) vs. Rai 3
--- picked Rai as it was my first Valiant ever bought and without it I would not have gotten into Valiant, or comics, at the time. This was by far the hardest yet for me.

Round 4a - Solar, Man of the Atom 10 FIRST PRINT vs. Magnus Robot Fighter 1 First Issue (with coupon)
--- picked Solar based on EW.

Round 4b - Unity 0 RED vs. Solar Hardcover 'Alpha & Omega' 0
--- picked Unity Red as it has it all.

Round 4b - Chaos Effect Alpha RED vs. Harbinger 0 PINK SENDAWAY
--- picked Harbinger based on story.

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm

I've decided and voted Magnus because of Steel Nation - the greatest story ever told in comics

seems Solar 10 is winning though. waaay more votes than magnus 1:(

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:32 am

Is it possible that Harbinger #1 could go up against Harbinger Pink?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:16 am

dino wrote:I've decided and voted Magnus because of Steel Nation - the greatest story ever told in comics

seems Solar 10 is winning though. waaay more votes than magnus 1:(

We're on the same page with Magnus Dino. I think it looks like we are going to get edged out on this though.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:23 am

Wow, when I voted for the Harby #0 and not for the CEAR, I thought I would be in the minority for sure. Looks like Harby is taking a clear lead.
Go Harby Pink!

dino · Post by **dino** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:54 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
dino wrote:I've decided and voted Magnus because of Steel Nation - the greatest story ever told in comics

seems Solar 10 is winning though. waaay more votes than magnus 1:(
We're on the same page with Magnus Dino. I think it looks like we are going to get edged out on this though.

I have faith

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:17 pm

dino wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
dino wrote:I've decided and voted Magnus because of Steel Nation - the greatest story ever told in comics

seems Solar 10 is winning though. waaay more votes than magnus 1:(
We're on the same page with Magnus Dino. I think it looks like we are going to get edged out on this though.
I have faith

How many accounts do you have?

dino · Post by **dino** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:33 pm

x-omatic wrote:
dino wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
dino wrote:I've decided and voted Magnus because of Steel Nation - the greatest story ever told in comics

seems Solar 10 is winning though. waaay more votes than magnus 1:(
We're on the same page with Magnus Dino. I think it looks like we are going to get edged out on this though.
I have faith
How many accounts do you have?

Just 2

Nah I'm not cheating though. So far all my picks have won and if Solar #10 wins fair and square then you're all a bunch of morons

darkknight919 · Post by **darkknight919** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:00 pm

Unblessed wrote:Magnus #1 > Solar #10 anyday!!!

~The Unblessed Soul

I agree! Magnus is King!
However..........he's losing!!!! :x WTF!?!?

Pull it together magnus fans. Holla at cha boy.
VOTE MAGNUS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:40 pm

darkknight919 wrote:
Unblessed wrote:Magnus #1 > Solar #10 anyday!!!

~The Unblessed Soul

I agree! Magnus is King!
However..........he's losing!!!! :x WTF!?!?

Pull it together magnus fans. Holla at cha boy.
VOTE MAGNUS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

Two key factors for me are: Magnus wasn't created by Valiant and the Solar is EW's (created by Valiant) first appearance . This is the same reason why I would pick Harbinger over Magnus, Solar or Turok. It is not for lack of love for Magnus but I just gotta go with something that Valiant created over something Valiant revamped.

darkknight919 · Post by **darkknight919** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:04 pm

x-omatic wrote:
darkknight919 wrote:
Unblessed wrote:Magnus #1 > Solar #10 anyday!!!

~The Unblessed Soul

I agree! Magnus is King!
However..........he's losing!!!! :x WTF!?!?

Pull it together magnus fans. Holla at cha boy.
VOTE MAGNUS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!
Two key factors for me are: Magnus wasn't created by Valiant and the Solar is EW's (created by Valiant) first appearance . This is the same reason why I would pick Harbinger over Magnus, Solar or Turok. It is not for lack of love for Magnus but I just gotta go with something that Valiant created over something Valiant revamped.

Very well said. I'll take the underdog every time. Thats why I'll never bet anything other than Monster Burgers (mmmmm.....Hardee's.....what!?!?) for lunch in my office pools.

dino · Post by **dino** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:12 pm

x-omatic wrote:Two key factors for me are: Magnus wasn't created by Valiant and the Solar is EW's (created by Valiant) first appearance . This is the same reason why I would pick Harbinger over Magnus, Solar or Turok. It is not for lack of love for Magnus but I just gotta go with something that Valiant created over something Valiant revamped.

I consider what Shooter did with Magnus as a valiant creation in its own right. I've read most of the 60s Magnus books and while they are good they are not great by any means. I would never think to buy a trade of them if it wasn't for Valian'ts early Magnus. Shooter changed so much and made so many right choices it's like he recreated the characters. Leeja is a great example compare her in #13 and onwards to Russ Mannings Leeja. Shooter used the first dozen valiant books to change her into one of the best female characters in comics, even today. The change Magnus himself went through shouldn't be undervalued either. With Manning he was the can do no wrong hero but Shooter had him living in the underbelly of North Am and branded a traitor in just four issues. The x-men have been trying to do that for years (Zero Tolerence) and the avengers have recently had a go too, both failed. So for me Valiant created the Magnus I love

davidb · Post by **davidb** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:04 pm

x-omatic wrote:Two key factors for me are: Magnus wasn't created by Valiant and the Solar is EW's (created by Valiant) first appearance . This is the same reason why I would pick Harbinger over Magnus, Solar or Turok. It is not for lack of love for Magnus but I just gotta go with something that Valiant created over something Valiant revamped.

The reason that Magnus got my vote is simple - This is the first "true" Valiant comic in my opinion. Sure, we had the WWF and Nintendo issues before this, but Magnus was the first book that began to establish the Valiant universe. That's just what ran through my mind when I saw this matchup.

David B.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:34 am

First issue or not , Solar 10 is still the better comic.

(imo)