#VALIANT2020

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:56:57 pm

And so it begins... #VALIANT2020

If Divinity is not a part of Valiants 2020 Initiative I’m going to lose my sh!t...

TheFerg714 · Post by **TheFerg714** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:00:06 pm

I'm definitely down to see what DMG has planned for 2020, but Q&W first?

Can't say that gives me much hope.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:30:02 pm

I'd rather see the return of Archer & Armstrong.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:37:13 pm

Q&W has consistently had poor sales numbers over the other titles (as did Eternal Warrior, much to my lament). I don't understand.

Agent Graves, I'd love another Divinity title, but we got 4+ minis and a full lush story about the character and his world. What about Savage! 4 stunning issues. A preview.

Looking forward to more news on what is coming next year. A&A would be great, as would Harbinger.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:32:55 pm

nycjadie wrote:Q&W has consistently had poor sales numbers over the other titles (as did Eternal Warrior, much to my lament). I don't understand.

Agent Graves, I'd love another Divinity title, but we got 4+ minis and a full lush story about the character and his world. What about Savage! 4 stunning issues. A preview.

Looking forward to more news on what is coming next year. A&A would be great, as would Harbinger.

I feel you. But this January will be two years since Eternity ended. I hate seeing my favorite Valiant character languishing in limbo! Of course try new things with other characters, but...

I’d love more Savage as well.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:09:51 pm

agent_graves wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Q&W has consistently had poor sales numbers over the other titles (as did Eternal Warrior, much to my lament). I don't understand.

Agent Graves, I'd love another Divinity title, but we got 4+ minis and a full lush story about the character and his world. What about Savage! 4 stunning issues. A preview.

Looking forward to more news on what is coming next year. A&A would be great, as would Harbinger.
I feel you. But this January will be two years since Eternity ended. I hate seeing my favorite Valiant character languishing in limbo! Of course try new things with other characters, but...

I’d love more Savage as well.

Considering that Kindt is gone, I imagine that Valiant would want someone with a really good track record to pick up the story of a character who is essentially a god

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:58:02 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
nycjadie wrote:Q&W has consistently had poor sales numbers over the other titles (as did Eternal Warrior, much to my lament). I don't understand.

Agent Graves, I'd love another Divinity title, but we got 4+ minis and a full lush story about the character and his world. What about Savage! 4 stunning issues. A preview.

Looking forward to more news on what is coming next year. A&A would be great, as would Harbinger.
I feel you. But this January will be two years since Eternity ended. I hate seeing my favorite Valiant character languishing in limbo! Of course try new things with other characters, but...

I’d love more Savage as well.
Considering that Kindt is gone, I imagine that Valiant would want someone with a really good track record to pick up the story of a character who is essentially a god

Agreed!! Can’t just give the character to any writer, the right pitch has to be there! I’d love to see Grant Morrison take a shot, but I’m not holding my breath...

Oxmyx · Post by **Oxmyx** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:14:40 am

TheFerg714 wrote:I'm definitely down to see what DMG has planned for 2020, but Q&W first? Can't say that gives me much hope.

Unlike many people around here, I actually enjoyed Q+W and think they're one of the many bright spots in VEI. Unlike many Valiant fans I do not like how bloody the VEI comics have usually been. With that said, I think it was a very bad business decision to lead with them. Q+W readers are decidedly not the core of the readership.

TheFerg714 · Post by **TheFerg714** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:26:12 am

Oxmyx wrote: Unlike many people around here, I actually enjoyed Q+W and think they're one of the many bright spots in VEI. Unlike many Valiant fans I do not like how bloody the VEI comics have usually been. With that said, I think it was a very bad business decision to lead with them. Q+W readers are decidedly not the core of the readership.

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I really liked Asmus' Q&W (at the time), and the latest run by Kibblesmith and Rahal impressed me. Now, with a few years of hindsight and shifting taste, I can't stand Asmus' original run. It's dumb and goes nowhere. For me, Q&W needs to have a nice balance between silly low-brow humor, genuine emotions and relationships, and a competent plot. Asmus' first arc pretty much had this handled, as well as The Delinquents, but I find everything else to be inane, wordy, annoying and honestly hard to get through.

That said, Q&W has an important place in the roster, and has a legitimate fanbase (I think?). I want more, just maybe not first.

TheeBaldMoose · Post by **TheeBaldMoose** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:35:58 pm

I enjoy Q&W too, and leading with them is a risky thing.

With that said, from the things I've heard, we will get a full slate of ongoings, and a handful of mini's. I truly believe we could see 8 or 9 books a month this year (at some point)

We will have Bloodshot, Q&W, X-O for certain. I've heard some about a Ninjak book in the works (could be later in 2020). Those paired with a couple of long mini's (6 issues), would be an ok 2020 in my book

Dallow Spicer1 · Post by **Dallow Spicer1** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:50:32 pm

Kibblesmith’s Quantum and Woody was decent but no other writer so far has got me interested in these characters so I’ll pass on this.

Savage is coming back so we know that already. Aside from that I’d like to see new characters being launched but not from FVL or some othe C level writer, . Invest in a great writer and get them writing a serious street level character ala Batman, a character who is not a psiot or immortal or old but looks young, no facial scars and no monks

Oxmyx · Post by **Oxmyx** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:59:07 pm

Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Kibblesmith’s Quantum and Woody was decent but no other writer so far has got me interested in these characters so I’ll pass on this.

Savage is coming back so we know that already. Aside from that I’d like to see new characters being launched but not from FVL or some othe C level writer, . Invest in a great writer and get them writing a serious street level character ala Batman, a character who is not a psiot or immortal or old but looks young, no facial scars and no monks

Not sure what you mean by that last part. What you got against psiots, immortals, and monks?

Dallow Spicer1 · Post by **Dallow Spicer1** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:17:42 pm

Oxmyx wrote:
Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Kibblesmith’s Quantum and Woody was decent but no other writer so far has got me interested in these characters so I’ll pass on this.

Savage is coming back so we know that already. Aside from that I’d like to see new characters being launched but not from FVL or some othe C level writer, . Invest in a great writer and get them writing a serious street level character ala Batman, a character who is not a psiot or immortal or old but looks young, no facial scars and no monks
Not sure what you mean by that last part. What you got against psiots, immortals, and monks?

Absolutely nothing but we’ve got enough of them and we need to branch out to something different. Now in Killers it turns out all of the ninjas are basically Psiots (or the equivalent) who can alter the ageing process and there’s yet another monk

I think the risk is going to the well too many times. Whereas we don’t have any power free, street level characters ...let’s go down that route

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:41:56 pm

#VALIANT2020

battlepark · Post by **battlepark** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:03:51 pm

Priest and Bright coming back?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:42:25 am

agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020

Britannia?

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:00:33 am

Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?

Dr. Tomorrow

lorddunlow · Post by **lorddunlow** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:19:42 am

greg wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?
Dr. Tomorrow

Haddaway?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:08:26 am

lorddunlow wrote:
greg wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?
Dr. Tomorrow

Haddaway?

What is love?

TheeBaldMoose · Post by **TheeBaldMoose** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:27:19 am

Chiclo wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
greg wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?
Dr. Tomorrow

Haddaway?
What is love?

Never Gonna Give You Up

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:53:39 pm

TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
greg wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?
Dr. Tomorrow

Haddaway?
What is love?
Never Gonna Give You Up

Together Forever

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:36:09 pm

Chiclo wrote:
agent_graves wrote:

#VALIANT2020
Britannia?

That was my first thought, or maybe Timewalker, but DMG have been looking to reimagine some IPs that haven’t been touched yet...I could see Dr. Tomorrow in the works.

nonplayer · Post by **nonplayer** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:40:37 pm

Some unknown character, probably a mini.
Thank you very much but Im not suporting this garbage by dmg. Their track record blows.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:33:42 am

#Valiant2020

#Vol3B!tch

#Shadowman

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:23:59 am

This version of VALIANT has yet to get Shadowman right. If there’s any title/character that needs a complete reboot this is it. Time to put VEI Jack to bed and get back to a more street level meets supernatural series.

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