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What new VALIANT comics do you hope to see from Alien Books, and do you have any preference for who the creative teams should be?

We already know bringing up Solar, Turok, and Magnus is futile, as it might be naming previous creators from the VEI era (though the latter is certainly more likely than the former).

I'd like to see X-O Manowar, Harbinger, Doctor Mirage, Archer & Armstrong, and one of the new VEI Era characters, but who would be a good choice?
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Eternal Warrior, X-O Manowar, Timewalker, the Destroyer. I think Betamax has the potential for some good stories.

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Chiclo wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:11:35 pm Eternal Warrior, X-O Manowar, Timewalker, the Destroyer. I think Betamax has the potential for some good stories.
Interesting. But the Destroyer is Solar. Nice try, heh.
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Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles. I'd like to see a continuation of the Eric Heisserer version of Secret Weapons and Livewire. His Secret Weapons was one of the most enjoyable series i've read. Maybe a Unity type event might erase the Vita Ayala storylineforever.

I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
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corey wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:23:00 pm Xo ,eternal warrior,livewire,bloodshot
The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:47:44 pm Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles. I'd like to see a conitunuation of the Eric Heisserer version of Secret Weapons and Livewire. His Secret Weapons was one of the most enjoyable series i've read. Maybe a Unity type event might erase the Vita Ayala storylineforever.

I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
Cool.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:50:44 pm
Chiclo wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:11:35 pm Eternal Warrior, X-O Manowar, Timewalker, the Destroyer. I think Betamax has the potential for some good stories.
Interesting. But the Destroyer is Solar. Nice try, heh.
Destroyer could easily be re-imagined as a variant/mirror/off-shoot of Divinity.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:32:00 am What new VALIANT comics do you hope to see from Alien Books, and do you have any preference for who the creative teams should be?
Hardcover collections, including some of the VEI era gaps.

As for creators, people who I think would fit well with being slavish to the VEI and VH1 era teams:

Core titles - ongoing
X-O Manowar - Charles Soule & Esad Ribic
Harbingers (opening up on many other psiots) - Jonathan Hickman & Jerome Opena
Bloodshot - Al Ewing & Chris Weston

Bolstered by a rotating sequence of minis; those that do best (in my imagined Alien publishing plan) coming back within 12 months for a follow up:
Doctor Mirage - Gail Simone & Ryan Sook
Shadowman - Chip Zdarsky & Steve Yeowell
Faith - Gail Simone & Nicola Scott
Divinity event mini series - Hickman & Steve Epting
Unity event mini series - Ewing & Jim Cheung
Eternal Warrior - Ian Edginton & D'Israeli
Timewalker - Ewing & Jamal Igle
Archer & Armstrong - Jed McKay & Doug Braithwaite
We already know bringing up Solar, Turok, and Magnus is futile, as it might be naming previous creators from the VEI era (though the latter is certainly more likely than the former).

I'd like to see X-O Manowar, Harbinger, Doctor Mirage, Archer & Armstrong, and one of the new VEI Era characters, but who would be a good choice?
I think re-establishing the best known 'core' is a must at first, with some of the newer characters being added increasingly as time progresses.
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leonmallett wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:26:57 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:32:00 am What new VALIANT comics do you hope to see from Alien Books, and do you have any preference for who the creative teams should be?
Hardcover collections, including some of the VEI era gaps.

As for creators, people who I think would fit well with being slavish to the VEI and VH1 era teams:

Core titles - ongoing
X-O Manowar - Charles Soule & Esad Ribic
Harbingers (opening up on many other psiots) - Jonathan Hickman & Jerome Opena
Bloodshot - Al Ewing & Chris Weston

Bolstered by a rotating sequence of minis; those that do best (in my imagined Alien publishing plan) coming back within 12 months for a follow up:
Doctor Mirage - Gail Simone & Ryan Sook
Shadowman - Chip Zdarsky & Steve Yeowell
Faith - Gail Simone & Nicola Scott
Divinity event mini series - Hickman & Steve Epting
Unity event mini series - Ewing & Jim Cheung
Eternal Warrior - Ian Edginton & D'Israeli
Timewalker - Ewing & Jamal Igle
Archer & Armstrong - Jed McKay & Doug Braithwaite
We already know bringing up Solar, Turok, and Magnus is futile, as it might be naming previous creators from the VEI era (though the latter is certainly more likely than the former).

I'd like to see X-O Manowar, Harbinger, Doctor Mirage, Archer & Armstrong, and one of the new VEI Era characters, but who would be a good choice?
I think re-establishing the best known 'core' is a must at first, with some of the newer characters being added increasingly as time progresses.
Cool.
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leonmallett wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:04:31 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:50:44 pm
Chiclo wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:11:35 pm Eternal Warrior, X-O Manowar, Timewalker, the Destroyer. I think Betamax has the potential for some good stories.
Interesting. But the Destroyer is Solar. Nice try, heh.
Destroyer could easily be re-imagined as a variant/mirror/off-shoot of Divinity.
Sure.
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The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:47:44 pm Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles. I'd like to see a conitunuation of the Eric Heisserer version of Secret Weapons and Livewire. His Secret Weapons was one of the most enjoyable series i've read. Maybe a Unity type event might erase the Vita Ayala storylineforever.

I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
Speaking of Armour Hunters, the whereabouts of Archer and Armstrong AND Vine Commander Trill AND Alexander Dorian are all unknown during the Armour Hunters event. Also, as far as I can tell, the elimination of the sonic hellhound thing in New York City was never explained or shown. ALSO the Vine plantings were once listed as an Archer Armstrong conspiracy of interest, but were not really ever mentioned again. All this leads me to wonder what exactly went down in NYC...

But, I humbly propose a Commander Trill one shot. Or, they could reboot Blister from VH1 Shadowman. Everybody would love that! (/sarcasm)
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Oxmyx wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:43:24 am
The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:47:44 pm Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles. I'd like to see a conitunuation of the Eric Heisserer version of Secret Weapons and Livewire. His Secret Weapons was one of the most enjoyable series i've read. Maybe a Unity type event might erase the Vita Ayala storylineforever.

I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
Speaking of Armour Hunters, the whereabouts of Archer and Armstrong AND Vine Commander Trill AND Alexander Dorian are all unknown during the Armour Hunters event. Also, as far as I can tell, the elimination of the sonic hellhound thing in New York City was never explained or shown. ALSO the Vine plantings were once listed as an Archer Armstrong conspiracy of interest, but were not really ever mentioned again. All this leads me to wonder what exactly went down in NYC...

But, I humbly propose a Commander Trill one shot. Or, they could reboot Blister from VH1 Shadowman. Everybody would love that! (/sarcasm)
Interesting.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:02:13 am
Oxmyx wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:43:24 am
The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:47:44 pm Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles.
I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
Speaking of Armour Hunters, the whereabouts ... unknown...All this leads me to wonder what exactly went down in NYC...

But, I humbly propose a Commander Trill one shot. Or, they could reboot Blister from VH1 Shadowman. Everybody would love that! (/sarcasm)
Interesting.
At least one guy thinks so, then. Haha
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Oxmyx wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:18:17 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:02:13 am
Oxmyx wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:43:24 am
The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:47:44 pm Harbinger & Ninjak are my two favourite titles.
I'd also love to see the Armour Hunters return.
Speaking of Armour Hunters, the whereabouts ... unknown...All this leads me to wonder what exactly went down in NYC...

But, I humbly propose a Commander Trill one shot. Or, they could reboot Blister from VH1 Shadowman. Everybody would love that! (/sarcasm)
Interesting.
At least one guy thinks so, then. Haha
:lol:

I'd like to see them bring back some of the original VALIANT characters, like Lydia.
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I'd like to see the return of classic characters like Lydia, Ken, and Randy from X-O Manowar. And it might also be interesting for Harada's wife from the short story in the Harbinger HC, Noriko, to be introduced and integrated into the new continuity.

Maybe a new variation of the same character who might replace Harada as the big bad, prove herself to be more ruthless and determined than he was.

I'd also like to see characters from VH 2 integrated into VEI continuity.

Donovan Wiley and Renata could be supporting characters in X-O Manowar.

The Troublemakers and Galloway & Galloway could introduce another faction in the looming Corporate Wars.

Even Michael Leroi in his role as an assassin could be integrated into Shadowman as a foil for Jack.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:47:39 pm I'd like to see the return of classic characters like Lydia, Ken, and Randy from X-O Manowar. And it might also be interesting for Harada's wife from the short story in the Harbinger HC, Noriko, to be introduced and integrated into the new continuity.

Maybe a new variation of the same character who might replace Harada as the big bad, prove herself to be more ruthless and determined than he was.

I'd also like to see characters from VH 2 integrated into VEI continuity.

Donovan Wiley and Renata could be supporting characters in X-O Manowar.

The Troublemakers and Galloway & Galloway could introduce another faction in the looming Corporate Wars.

Even Michael Leroi in his role as an assassin could be integrated into Shadowman as a foil for Jack.
Also Master Darque to return. He is such a great character. He has to potential to be as big as the Joker as a villain. The Valiant Universe needs bigger and badder villains. A hero's story is only as good as the villains they are fighting.
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The Chosen 1 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:57:11 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:47:39 pm I'd like to see the return of classic characters like Lydia, Ken, and Randy from X-O Manowar. And it might also be interesting for Harada's wife from the short story in the Harbinger HC, Noriko, to be introduced and integrated into the new continuity.

Maybe a new variation of the same character who might replace Harada as the big bad, prove herself to be more ruthless and determined than he was.

I'd also like to see characters from VH 2 integrated into VEI continuity.

Donovan Wiley and Renata could be supporting characters in X-O Manowar.

The Troublemakers and Galloway & Galloway could introduce another faction in the looming Corporate Wars.

Even Michael Leroi in his role as an assassin could be integrated into Shadowman as a foil for Jack.
Also Master Darque to return. He is such a great character. He has to potential to be as big as the Joker as a villain. The Valiant Universe needs bigger and badder villains. A hero's story is only as good as the villains they are fighting.
Wizard once chose Master Darque as a top villain on one of their lists. I forget which place he got.
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Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.

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gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
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gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
But can he capture what makes VALIANT different from DC and Marvel, or would it just be the same thing they do but with different characters?
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:35:25 pm
gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
But can he capture what makes VALIANT different from DC and Marvel, or would it just be the same thing they do but with different characters?
Having read Hickman's Avengers run, I think his writing is not what would be typically be expected from Marvel books.

His strengths are writing to a well realised sense of scientific possibility, long-form plotting, and introducing new characters. His biggest weakness for me is that few characters are truly developed. That said, i think his style would fit very well with the work of Kindt, Dysart et al.
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leonmallett wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:36:40 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:35:25 pm
gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
But can he capture what makes VALIANT different from DC and Marvel, or would it just be the same thing they do but with different characters?
Having read Hickman's Avengers run, I think his writing is not what would be typically be expected from Marvel books.

His strengths are writing to a well realised sense of scientific possibility, long-form plotting, and introducing new characters. His biggest weakness for me is that few characters are truly developed. That said, i think his style would fit very well with the work of Kindt, Dysart et al.
What about the tenets of the original VALIANT, like world outside your window, hard science, and all that?
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:20:24 am
leonmallett wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:36:40 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:35:25 pm
gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
But can he capture what makes VALIANT different from DC and Marvel, or would it just be the same thing they do but with different characters?
Having read Hickman's Avengers run, I think his writing is not what would be typically be expected from Marvel books.

His strengths are writing to a well realised sense of scientific possibility, long-form plotting, and introducing new characters. His biggest weakness for me is that few characters are truly developed. That said, i think his style would fit very well with the work of Kindt, Dysart et al.
What about the tenets of the original VALIANT, like world outside your window, hard science, and all that?
He can write grounded and internally logical science.

As for hard science, we will have to agree to disagree that psychic powers, biological super armour with near-limitless energy projection, reincarnation, immortality, and/or death energy etc are hard science. I would agree they were well-realised elements within the VH1 milieu, which is specifically why I wrote that he writes a 'well-realised sense of scientific possibility'. :)
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leonmallett wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:20:30 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:20:24 am
leonmallett wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:36:40 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:35:25 pm
gynta wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:26:49 pm Jonathan Hickman as main architect of a reimagined Valiant Universe would be a dream come true! His concepts are always well thought out and treat the original material with respect.
But can he capture what makes VALIANT different from DC and Marvel, or would it just be the same thing they do but with different characters?
Having read Hickman's Avengers run, I think his writing is not what would be typically be expected from Marvel books.

His strengths are writing to a well realised sense of scientific possibility, long-form plotting, and introducing new characters. His biggest weakness for me is that few characters are truly developed. That said, i think his style would fit very well with the work of Kindt, Dysart et al.
What about the tenets of the original VALIANT, like world outside your window, hard science, and all that?
He can write grounded and internally logical science.

As for hard science, we will have to agree to disagree that psychic powers, biological super armour with near-limitless energy projection, reincarnation, immortality, and/or death energy etc are hard science. I would agree they were well-realised elements within the VH1 milieu, which is specifically why I wrote that he writes a 'well-realised sense of scientific possibility'. :)

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I think Hickman or Ewing could definitely write up some awesome Harbinger story arcs that would build nicely off of Dysarts run on both Harbinger & Imperium and even Heisserer’s Secret Weapons. That would be really great to see.

I would also love to see what Ewing might do with Shadowman - his Immortal Hulk run showed he could fuse some tremendous high-concept sci-fi and horror genre ideas together in one.
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