Charlton’s Yang: 1970s precursor of Valiant’s Archer? – Yang #1

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Charlton’s Yang: 1970s precursor of Valiant’s Archer? – Yang #1

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Interesting blog article I stumbled on from 2013:
https://blogintomystery.com/2013/08/11/charlton-yang-1/
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Charlton’s Yang: 1970s precursor of Valiant’s Archer? – Yang #1
AUGUST 11, 2013

Many comic book aficionados of a certain age have a soft spot for Charlton, and with good reason. They were an alternative. While Marvel and DC ruled the field during that company’s time on Earth, as they do now, there’s always room in the world for something different. That’s just what Charlton was: different. Maybe derivative. Maybe kind of crappy most of the time. But they presented a counterweight to the industry titans, the Dr. Pepper to Coke and Pepsi (okay, maybe the Tab). A variation from the norm. A choice. And bless their hearts, they held on for a good long while. In a business where companies come and go, open and fold before a second issue can be run off the presses, a run measured in decades is an achievement.

I don’t know where Yang fits into that flowery opening paragraph. I’m not sure if he’s bad or good — if he’s Yin or Yang, as it were (and as the cover above queries, though in another vein). I’m pretty certain he’s derivative. I’m also pretty sure he looks a bit like Armstrong’s tag-team partner, Archer. So he’s worth a quick word. Two, even.

Let’s travel back in time for a moment, to the era of giant cars, bad hair, bland clothes and disco. The 1970s were karate crazy, lest we forget. David Carradine, actor/martial artist and eventual victim of auto-erotic asphyxiation, was a bona-fide TV star in Kung Fu. Enter the Dragon — ’nuff said. Comics had karate-chopping comic book characters galore, from the famous to the lesser known to the downright obscure. A fad of this magnitude ensured that any comic company with grand pretensions would have to publish a title — preferably more than one — that featured open-hand blows and kicks to the face. Enter Yang.

Like most of the Charlton catalog, Yang’s backstory was simple, bare-bones even. His entire origin is presented in his first issue, written by Charlton vet Joe Gill, with art by Warren Sattler, and it fills readers in on how he made it from the Far East to (like Carradine’s Kung Fu) the Old West. And the story wastes no time in hurling us bodily into the chop-kick action. Yang’s father is assassinated within the first pages, and on page three we’re bombarded with our first Yang contretemps:
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Yang is a sheltered prince of sorts, who’s spent his life secluded with books and, of course, instruction in the martial arts. But the murder of his family patriarch and the abduction of his kinsmen by an evil gangster/warlord/whatever leads him out of his enclave and in search of revenge. You might think that his book-learning would give him some wisdom — or at least the ability to sniff out obvious ruses that might as well be spelled in all CAPS (RUSES). As we shall see, that’s not the case.

Our first indication that Yang may not be all that quick on the uptake comes when he pursues Chao Ku, the man who ordered his father’s murder, to a ship anchored in the local harbor. There he’s intercepted by Chao’s daughter — named, naturally, Yin — who, well:
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Yang’s pursuit of justice is not, repeat not off to a great start.

He’s chained, locked in the hold, beaten repeatedly, starved, and delivered to America, where he’ll serve as a coolie, building America’s railroads. He manages to escape before being consigned to forced servitude, but bumps into Yin again during his escape. He knows she’s not completely on the up and up by now, but, well:
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Yin pricks him with her poison ring, and Yang is rendered insensate once more. Yes, he fell for it AGAIN. Our hero, ladies and gentlemen. (Yang’s remarkable naiveté is most reminiscent of Valiant’s Archer — or vice versa. Both came of age in secluded surroundings, and both found the outside world a bizarre and beguiling place. So there was more in common here than just the Telly Savalas hairstyle.)

Off Yang goes to pound spikes, where he wastes no chance to rabble-rouse:
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Yang and his flying feet of fury soon break his bonds and he makes his escape, vowing to put an end to evil everywhere, though perhaps falling for every shell game put in front of him along the way:
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And he’s off and running — literally.

Yang would last into the teens, and would even spin-off another comic, House of Yang, which followed the exploits of a descendent. This is stunning. One would think that Yang would get the heave-ho just as fast as Fatman, the Human Flying Saucer, long before a spin-off could even be contemplated, but perhaps the ’70s martial arts mania was sufficient to support his dim-witted quest(s). It had to have been, because this comic was everything that was wrong about Charlton back then: derivative, uninspired, you name it. Sattler’s art tries at times (some of the panel construction is Ditkoian in its simplicity), but could never hope to drown out the cookie-cutter script.

If Charlton’s charm was being something different, the difference in this case was merely the symbol on the cover’s upper left — or at least that’s all you’d care about if you picked up this book on a regular basis. Yang, we hardly knew ye (and your stunning susceptibility to simple traps), and that’s probably for the better.
Interesting parallels. BWS' Archer was the perfect naive counterpoint to the world-weary Armstrong. I always thought it seemed like Barry was giving voice to the 2 contradictory aspects of his own personality.

Even though that dynamic is what made A&A work, I would have loved to see Archer mature and grow in the Valiant universe and eventually get a solo series once he got to adulthood.

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Interesting.
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:19:21 pm Interesting.
Charlton has some parallels to Valiant, in trying to be that third option to the Coke and Pepsi of Marvel and DC.

This made me think of another interesting bit of A&A history, the Shooter interview in Archer & Armstrong First Impressions HC from way back in 2008. Shooter seems extra salty in this one, which is a little surprising since at this time he was also serving as the (shadow) EiC? We don't really know the exact timelines on when he was employed by VEI. Anyway here's the quote:
SHOOTER: The original plan was that Layton would write Archer & Armstrong. He had contributed to the personality of Armstrong; felt uniquely qualified to script a total reprobate and wanted a chance to develop as a writer. I was overwhelmed with other work, so I figured I'd give him a try. I wrote the detailed plot for #0 that Windsor-Smith drew (we were working Marvel style on that issue - plot, pencils, then dialogue). Layton took a crack at the dialogue. Windsor-Smith read it before I did, and hated it. Windsor-Smith loved Archer & Armstrong and didn't want the dialogue to suck. Because Windsor-Smith and Layton were friends it was awkward for Windsor-Smith to be the bad guy. I took the rap instead. I told Layton that I had decided that I wanted to write the book (as if I needed more to do) and did a from-scratch rewrite. Layton wasn't happy. Maybe that contributed to his stabbing me in the back later...
LOL at 'uniquely qualified to script a total reprobate' :lol: . Of course Shooter is always the hero is his own stories, but I wonder what the Layton version was like. A while back I got the Hercules comics that he wrote that seem similar to A&A, but I haven't read them yet.

One of the skills of a good editor is to be able to reject someone's work without crushing their ego or making them resent you. Shooter had a lot of skills, but that didn't seem to be one of them.

The whole interview is worth reading though, it goes into great detail about the creation of some of the characters and what it was like at early Valiant that I haven't heard in other interviews.

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Ryan wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:11:31 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:19:21 pm Interesting.
Charlton has some parallels to Valiant, in trying to be that third option to the Coke and Pepsi of Marvel and DC.

This made me think of another interesting bit of A&A history, the Shooter interview in Archer & Armstrong First Impressions HC from way back in 2008. Shooter seems extra salty in this one, which is a little surprising since at this time he was also serving as the (shadow) EiC? We don't really know the exact timelines on when he was employed by VEI. Anyway here's the quote:
SHOOTER: The original plan was that Layton would write Archer & Armstrong. He had contributed to the personality of Armstrong; felt uniquely qualified to script a total reprobate and wanted a chance to develop as a writer. I was overwhelmed with other work, so I figured I'd give him a try. I wrote the detailed plot for #0 that Windsor-Smith drew (we were working Marvel style on that issue - plot, pencils, then dialogue). Layton took a crack at the dialogue. Windsor-Smith read it before I did, and hated it. Windsor-Smith loved Archer & Armstrong and didn't want the dialogue to suck. Because Windsor-Smith and Layton were friends it was awkward for Windsor-Smith to be the bad guy. I took the rap instead. I told Layton that I had decided that I wanted to write the book (as if I needed more to do) and did a from-scratch rewrite. Layton wasn't happy. Maybe that contributed to his stabbing me in the back later...
LOL at 'uniquely qualified to script a total reprobate' :lol: . Of course Shooter is always the hero is his own stories, but I wonder what the Layton version was like. A while back I got the Hercules comics that he wrote that seem similar to A&A, but I haven't read them yet.

One of the skills of a good editor is to be able to reject someone's work without crushing their ego or making them resent you. Shooter had a lot of skills, but that didn't seem to be one of them.

The whole interview is worth reading though, it goes into great detail about the creation of some of the characters and what it was like at early Valiant that I haven't heard in other interviews.
I remember reading it at the time the HC came out, heh.
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I think I contributed to that interview, but I cannot remember what, if anything, it was. Maybe I submitted questions for Shooter or something. I think I did something, but I can't remember what it was of if they used it or not.
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