Fred Van Lente and AJ Ampadu are co-writing Resurgence of the Valiant Universe, Ask Them Anything!

[ManofTheAtom]

Fred Van Lente and AJ Ampadu are co-writing Resurgence of the Valiant Universe, Ask Them Anything!

[syzhang28]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

[Chiclo]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

Not done beating that dead horse yet?

[Ryan]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

Not done beating that dead horse yet?

Speaking of dead horses, I don't think we can move forward until everyone in this thread admits that Jim Shooter might have a pet goat who's on a first name basis with the Legion of Superheroes and that DMG and Alien are the same company

[Chiclo]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

Not done beating that dead horse yet?

Speaking of dead horses, I don't think we can move forward until everyone in this thread admits that Jim Shooter might have a pet goat who's on a first name basis with the Legion of Superheroes and that DMG and Alien are the same company

To fight one who beats dead horses, you must become one who beats dead horses?

[syzhang28]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

Not done beating that dead horse yet?

Speaking of dead horses, I don't think we can move forward until everyone in this thread admits that Jim Shooter might have a pet goat who's on a first name basis with the Legion of Superheroes and that DMG and Alien are the same company

To fight one who beats dead horses, you must become one who beats dead horses?

That's pretty damn funny!

[Ryan]

Nice an AMA! I'm gonna ask if they think people should read comics or just press releases about them.

Not done beating that dead horse yet?

Speaking of dead horses, I don't think we can move forward until everyone in this thread admits that Jim Shooter might have a pet goat who's on a first name basis with the Legion of Superheroes and that DMG and Alien are the same company

To fight one who beats dead horses, you must become one who beats dead horses?

That might be true. I'm not interested in getting into a horse beating competition myself, just pointing out the irony.

How would you suggest to debate someone whose debate style is to abandon all logic and common sense so he can find any horse that he can beat until the other debaters just get tired or lose interest?

[Chiclo]

How would you suggest to debate someone whose debate style is to abandon all logic and common sense so he can find any horse that he can beat until the other debaters just get tired or lose interest?

I have been beating that dead horse for a while and have yet to find an answer.

[ManofTheAtom]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

[Ryan]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

You can say that again. Why not 100 more times?

[ManofTheAtom]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

You can say that again. Why not 100 more times?

I can stop right after you and the other guy both, one, take responsibility for making a baseless argument, and, two, stop constantly attacking me for responding to your baseless argument.

[Ryan]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

You can say that again. Why not 100 more times?

I can stop right after you and the other guy both, one, take responsibility for making a baseless argument, and, two, stop constantly attacking me for responding to your baseless argument.

Nah, because I've seen Jim Shooter's goat and it definitely mumbled something that sounded like 'matter eater lad' and no one has yet to see DMG and Alien in the same room together, so until you can supply definitive proof to the contrary, the debate must continue.

[Ryan]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

Ok, since you're the one who knows all about the corporate structure of DMG, Alien and Valiant, who exactly is responsible for all of 'DMG's F- ups'?

Is the Senior Editor not responsible for the comics that came out under their leadership?

[ManofTheAtom]

All I said was that Alien and DMG are not the same company and, therefore, the former should not be blamed for the latter's *SQUEE* ups.

You and the guy I blocked responded to that by arguing that they are in fact the same company...

Ok, since you're the one who knows all about the corporate structure of DMG, Alien and Valiant, who exactly is responsible for all of 'DMG's F- ups'?

Is the Senior Editor not responsible for the comics that came out under their leadership?

You and I are discussing TWO different things. You're focusing on STORY, whereas I'm focusing on people here *SQUEE* all over Alien Books BEFORE they published a SINGLE comic because they were angry that DMG *SQUEE* up fulfilling a Kickstarter.

Those people blamed Alien (who was represented here by Danielle Ward and Martin Casanova) for decisions and failures that had NOTHING to do with the actual comics (in context here, meaning the STORIES -- i.e. Livewire's portrayal in Harbinger Wars II and the like).

Now, if you want to argue about story and such, that is an entirely DIFFERENT conversation that has NOTHING to do with what people were accusing Alien of doing BEFORE they published a single comic, which is what caused Ward and Casanova to not want to return here.

[ManofTheAtom]

Alien hiring Ward and Hawkins from DMG/VALIANT does not make them the same company and liable for DMG's failures anymore than VALIANT Entertainment hiring Fred Pierce and Walter Black made them the same company as Voyager Communications and Acclaim and liable for those companies' failures.

[Ryan]

Alien hiring Ward and Hawkins from DMG/VALIANT does not make them the same company and liable for DMG's failures anymore than VALIANT Entertainment hiring Fred Pierce and Walter Black made them the same company as Voyager Communications and Acclaim and liable for those companies' failures.

It's a simple question. Since you know more than everyone else here about how these businesses are run. Who is responsible for (as you say) "DMG's failures"?

[ManofTheAtom]

Alien hiring Ward and Hawkins from DMG/VALIANT does not make them the same company and liable for DMG's failures anymore than VALIANT Entertainment hiring Fred Pierce and Walter Black made them the same company as Voyager Communications and Acclaim and liable for those companies' failures.

It's a simple question. Since you know more than everyone else here about how these businesses are run. Who is responsible for (as you say) "DMG's failures"?

DMG's failure to fulfilling the Kickstarter -- which is what people here blamed on Alien for months before they launched a single project -- was obviously not an EDITORIAL decision.

If you believe it was, if you believe Hawkins was responsible, prove it.

Even if she was, that doesn't make ALIEN liable for it.

[Ryan]

Alien hiring Ward and Hawkins from DMG/VALIANT does not make them the same company and liable for DMG's failures anymore than VALIANT Entertainment hiring Fred Pierce and Walter Black made them the same company as Voyager Communications and Acclaim and liable for those companies' failures.

It's a simple question. Since you know more than everyone else here about how these businesses are run. Who is responsible for (as you say) "DMG's failures"?

DMG's failure to fulfilling the Kickstarter -- which is what people here blamed on Alien for months before they launched a single project -- was obviously not an EDITORIAL decision.

If you believe it was, if you believe Hawkins was responsible, prove it.

Even if she was, that doesn't make ALIEN liable for it.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say any of those things. I'm just asking you who was responsible, since you're the expert.

[ManofTheAtom]

Alien hiring Ward and Hawkins from DMG/VALIANT does not make them the same company and liable for DMG's failures anymore than VALIANT Entertainment hiring Fred Pierce and Walter Black made them the same company as Voyager Communications and Acclaim and liable for those companies' failures.

It's a simple question. Since you know more than everyone else here about how these businesses are run. Who is responsible for (as you say) "DMG's failures"?

DMG's failure to fulfilling the Kickstarter -- which is what people here blamed on Alien for months before they launched a single project -- was obviously not an EDITORIAL decision.

If you believe it was, if you believe Hawkins was responsible, prove it.

Even if she was, that doesn't make ALIEN liable for it.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say any of those things. I'm just asking you who was responsible, since you're the expert.

If you want a name, I could not give it to you. Obviously it would not have been anyone at Alien, which is what matters.

[Ryan]

If you want a name, I could not give it to you. Obviously it would not have been anyone at Alien, which is what matters.

Ok if you don't know that, how can you be so sure that you know who is making the big decisions now?

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

[ManofTheAtom]

If you want a name, I could not give it to you. Obviously it would not have been anyone at Alien, which is what matters.

Ok if you don't know that, how can you be so sure that you know who is making the big decisions now?

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

Not what I said in the least.

What I did say is that (to use your words) "Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship", and my words "no one from ALIEN had ANYTHING to do with the KICKSTARTER, which is what people here *SQUEE* about for MONTHS before Alien released a SINGLE comic book. No one was *SQUEE* about anything that had to do with creative or editorial decisions in the comic published by DMG. They were harassing Alien's representatives over DMG's failure to fulfill a Kickstarter campaign".

[TheFerg714]

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

That's right. Several Alien employees have said this on Discord. DMG has no oversight and doesn't give a *SQUEE* about comics anymore. There may be a couple of the same faces, but it's a different company now, with a different vision. This is honestly obvious to anyone that's paying attention. There's been a big shift in the books' style and tone, as well as a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity.

I'm not gonna try and argue that everything Alien has published has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure why you're barking up this tree.

[Ryan]

If you want a name, I could not give it to you. Obviously it would not have been anyone at Alien, which is what matters.

Ok if you don't know that, how can you be so sure that you know who is making the big decisions now?

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

Not what I said in the least.

What I did say is that (to use your words) "Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship", and my words "no one from ALIEN had ANYTHING to do with the KICKSTARTER, which is what people here *SQUEE* about for MONTHS before Alien released a SINGLE comic book. No one was *SQUEE* about anything that had to do with creative or editorial decisions in the comic published by DMG. They were harassing Alien's representatives over DMG's failure to fulfill a Kickstarter campaign".

K, but you're the only one bringing the kickstarter back up. The kickstarter was resolved many months ago. The books came out, just late. Then Alien actually published the same book as one of their first Valiant books. Odd behavior for a completely independent licensee, but there you go.

[Ryan]

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

That's right. Several Alien employees have said this on Discord. DMG has no oversight and doesn't give a *SQUEE* about comics anymore. There may be a couple of the same faces, but it's a different company now, with a different vision. This is honestly obvious to anyone that's paying attention. There's been a big shift in the books' style and tone, as well as a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity.

I'm gonna try and argue that everything Alien has published has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure why you're barking up this tree.

A couple of the same faces = Senior Editor becoming the Editor-in-Chief. Got it.

I have read some of the books. Very similar to me. Yes, more connectivity but less polished art and similar in many ways to DMG era books imo.

[ManofTheAtom]

Just so I got this right, you're saying is that Alien is completely independent from DMG, merely a licensee-licensor relationship, correct? No one from DMG has any say in any decisions regarding the comic books?

That's right. Several Alien employees have said this on Discord. DMG has no oversight and doesn't give a *SQUEE* about comics anymore. There may be a couple of the same faces, but it's a different company now, with a different vision. This is honestly obvious to anyone that's paying attention. There's been a big shift in the books' style and tone, as well as a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity.

I'm gonna try and argue that everything Alien has published has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure why you're barking up this tree.

A couple of the same faces = Senior Editor becoming the Editor-in-Chief. Got it.

I have read some of the books. Very similar to me. Yes, more connectivity but less polished art and similar in many ways to DMG era books imo.

Not relevant to Alien and DMG being separate companies and Alien having no liability for DMG screwing up fulfilling the Kickstarter, which is what people here attacked Alien for.