X-O Manowar Kotaki Error

THEWGZK · Post by **THEWGZK** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:18 am

I found my first rare Valiant Treasure during the black Friday sale at Collectors Paradise in Pasadena. I was wrapping up my comic binge diving through the comics by the pound boxes and came across the Kotaki cover, I opened it up and found Quantum and Woody inside and let out a big Whooooooo!! and startled just about everyone in the store I'm sure. But yeah I'm pretty excited about the find.

nscc · Post by **nscc** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:08 am

Awesome find, congrats!!

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:47 am

Score! I still have yet to find one! Well done!

DirtbagSailor · Post by **DirtbagSailor** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:52 am

Blood of Heroes · Post by **Blood of Heroes** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:20 am

Nice score!

THEWGZK · Post by **THEWGZK** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:54 pm

Yeah it was full Rick Flair.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:56 pm

So lucky! I haven't scored one yet either.

agent_graves · Post by **agent_graves** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:44 pm

Congrats

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:29 pm

Great book. My copy is for sure one of my favorite books I own.

Ramses818 · Post by **Ramses818** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:05 pm

Great find! You are a nice guy so glad to hear it landed in your hands

, although mine are of course always the preference! Lol

Dr Noel · Post by **Dr Noel** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Nice find!

Chris Campbell · Post by **Chris Campbell** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:29 pm

Love these types of stories! Nice

Chris Campbell · Post by **Chris Campbell** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:32 pm

By the way I never see this on eBay. What's the general consensus on fair price? I actually have a copy I may be selling (just had our 4th baby - not cheap lol)

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Last graded one I saw was near $300. I think it was a 9.6.

Beware Cyclops · Post by **Beware Cyclops** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:54 am

There's 3 9.8 copies, no 9.6s (unless it got a blue label). A board member sold a raw copy on Ebay for about $350 a couple years ago. That copy ((I suspect) or possibly another) sold for about $406 very soon after on ebay.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:05 pm

Funny. I only have an error copy.

Intrepidxc · Post by **Intrepidxc** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:02 am

I'm looking for either copy. I can't find a regular XO 15 Kotaki variant or an error copy.

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:08 am

Intrepidxc wrote:I'm looking for either copy. I can't find a regular XO 15 Kotaki variant or an error copy.

There are probably equal amounts of each. An error copy has the extra attribute of being "an error copy".

Intrepidxc · Post by **Intrepidxc** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:28 pm

greg wrote:
Intrepidxc wrote:I'm looking for either copy. I can't find a regular XO 15 Kotaki variant or an error copy.
There are probably equal amounts of each. An error copy has the extra attribute of being "an error copy".

I still can't find a copy for sale. The XO 15 Kotaki variant in any form seems to be harder to come across than any of the other Rarer VEI books. Heck, I can find copies of Divinity #1 1:40 out there and there were only 350 made. How many XO 15 Kotaki variants were made?

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:37 am

This was probably the most difficult for me to get, along with Bloodshot #3 limited variant. I don't know why, but that book took me months to find.

greg · Post by **greg** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:52 am

Intrepidxc wrote:I still can't find a copy for sale. The XO 15 Kotaki variant in any form seems to be harder to come across than any of the other Rarer VEI books. Heck, I can find copies of Divinity #1 1:40 out there and there were only 350 made. How many XO 15 Kotaki variants were made?

Hard to say. The sales for X-O #15 were 14,000 copies.
That would be 280 of the 1:50 variants... but that was July 2013, and it's not clear if VEI was still printing extra variants.
They said there were extra variants in 2012, at least 1,000 of every book.

VEI stated in 2012 that they did not want it to be impossible to collect Valiant, so they wanted at least 1,000 of each book.
At some point, however, there would have been lots of extra variants (printed, but unearned) for books nowhere near the #1 issue,
so it didn't make a lot of sense to keep printing beyond what was needed for the orders. Extras and giveaways for #1 (or #0) books make sense...
but it probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to thank convention attendees with a limited edition of a random (non-#1) book from years ago.

If I had to guess, I'd say there are probably 400 of the X-O #15 Kotaki variants, with maybe 150 errors and 250 correct.

More info (especially from VEI directly) would change my mind pretty quickly, though.

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