Undervalued Gems

[Draco]

I think there was also a prototype of some kind in an issue of FOOM.

Foom 10 seems to be getting attention as 1st app New Xmen over Giant size X-men # 1 but another book that whilst scarce isnt an issue where a story was intended over a preview or advert

[StarBrand]

I think these published ads are legit collectibles. It's the first time a character was published in print by the publisher. I can see that not being a first appearance, but still counting as "first time character appeared in print" or something along those lines.

[Draco]

I think these published ads are legit collectibles. It's the first time a character was published in print by the publisher. I can see that not being a first appearance, but still counting as "first time character appeared in print" or something along those lines.

The Foom # 10 cover is a gem, but some ads were weak, some strong
I guess it depends on the character/s

[possumgrease]

I wonder if the ad itself contributed to 181 being the "legitimate" first appearance since it set the expectations of the fans?


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[GGSAE]

I wonder if the ad itself contributed to 181 being the "legitimate" first appearance since it set the expectations of the fans?


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Good point.

[GGSAE]

I wonder if that ad appeared in other Marvels that month.

Daredevil 115
Marvel Premiere 19
Thor 229

So all three kind of tie together, so you can make a case aside from popularity of titles, significance of issue # all books should be worth about the same. I just love the DD bronze covers, for my 70s books are my favorite covers.

[ShadowTuga]

Did not know where to post this, so if it's not the correct thread, apologies.

People, what do you think of the potential of Batman nu52 #21 (1st Duke Thomas)?
I would not ask this if I had not read a recent interview with Scott Snyder regarding AS Batman, where he says he has plans for a solo Duke book to spin out of it. And that he's gonna be Big in the DCU.

We know that "Lark" (Duke's superhero nickname) will not be another Bat-helper, according to Snyder, both in the book and in interviews. It's something else different.
We still don't know wtf that "else" is.

[maraxusofkeld]

I think the first Harper Row from Batman new 52 has potential, issues 7, and 28.

[ShadowTuga]

I think the first Harper Row from Batman new 52 has potential, issues 7, and 28.

Her first appearance is actually Batman #1- unnamed cameo, according to Snyder. Which is already a pricey book.

I at one time thought she was going to be the next Big Batman character, but seeing how some of the writers show how they feel about her by simply putting Harper out of action (she's in Detective, only, and in a secondary role), it made me think she is not that great with the fandom and hasn't any chance of being outside the comics- but I really do like her very much (and the relationship with her brother), plus, her Bluebird outfit is real cool.

[Elveen]

I think the first Harper Row from Batman new 52 has potential, issues 7, and 28.

Any Bat character has the chance.

[StarBrand]

A lot of Silver Age books seem to have about ten or fifteen slabbed copies available on eBay in similar condition for around the same price. I like to buy the last copy of a book in a certain grade, when there are either no remaining copies for sale or the next copy in price is significantly more expensive.
If you buy a book that has a dozen copies available for around $300 each in close to the same grade, that book could remain stuck at that price for a long, long time.

[StarBrand]

I'm really starting to love some of the Marvel Milestones and DC Milleniums, slabbed in high grade.

[IMJ]

Amazing Spider-Man vol. 1 #121
-Death of Gwen Stacy
-Green Goblin cements place as the ultimate Spider-Man villain

Spider-Man is a bit of a tragic hero, for sure. Actually, the character is known for his emotional beat downs throughout the entire publishing history of Peter Parker. However, this particular issue is a key in any Spider-Man run. It features the first true tragedy that Spider-Man faces since the death of Uncle Ben in the characters origin. It also features the death of the only character in the book's history to truly give Mary Jane a run for a place in Parker's life.

The death of Gwen Stacy was a huge deal that happened rather quietly, in an otherwise normal Green Goblin story of Marvel's foremost publication, Amazing Spider-Man. This was a death that was sacred through all of comic book time - like Bucky's, Jason Todd's, and Uncle Ben's - obviously until the recent age of comics where sacred is thrown out the window for sales.

But this death mattered. We all could love Gwen Stacy and we all would feel a little cringe, or voice an "oh! man..." when reading this issue and seeing that tiny, tiny, tiny little sound effect on the page... -snap!-.

The emotional gamut that this book evokes - even amidst the very cliche Silver Age writing, is a gauntlet that doesn't let up. From Harry Osbourne's drug issues, to the return of Norman's Green Goblin, to the nature of Spider-Man's attitude in this story. The character wakes up and goes about his life like a normal day, simply humanly naive to the fact that the day could end in a way that never entered his mind. Something we can all identify with - you wake up and take a day for granted, go home like everything is normal only to end your day finding out that is absolutely was not.

This book was a turning point that guided the direction of Spider-Man titles literally for the next 40 years. It has been referenced on screen, in an equally poignant way (it can't be denied that no matter your thoughts on the Amazing Spider-Man 2, the death of Gwen scene was done in a way that was galvanizing emotionally for anyone watching it). Amazing Spider-Man #121 is not a cheap comic on the market, but is still, arguably, an undervalued gem given it's masterful craftsmanship, emotional impact, long-lasting ramifications, and even spawning evoking modern pop culture references to this day. Amazing Spider-Man #121 is easily of the most key Spider-Man books ever created, and it was done without marketing hype, without an announced headline about "changing things forever" or other false promises. It still resonates today even through the writing tropes of it's time. Uncle Ben was a hero-birthing tragedy, but in a hobby filled with heroes who are "reborn" and perpetually young, the death of Gwen Stacy was a galvanizing event that puts in perspective how short life can really be.

[greg]

I've looked at Amazing Spider-man #121 several times as being undervalued, and I keep coming back to the fact that Spider-man's butt is the focal point in the center of the cover and I don't want to pay money for Spider-man's butt.



I'll go ahead and prepare the quote thread for you guys:

I don't want to pay money for Spider-man's butt.

[StarBrand]

Crap. Now that's how I'm going to look at that book too. Lol.

[StarBrand]

Amazing Spider-Man vol. 1 #121
-Death of Gwen Stacy
-Green Goblin cements place as the ultimate Spider-Man villain

Spider-Man is a bit of a tragic hero, for sure. Actually, the character is known for his emotional beat downs throughout the entire publishing history of Peter Parker. However, this particular issue is a key in any Spider-Man run. It features the first true tragedy that Spider-Man faces since the death of Uncle Ben in the characters origin. It also features the death of the only character in the book's history to truly give Mary Jane a run for a place in Parker's life.

The death of Gwen Stacy was a huge deal that happened rather quietly, in an otherwise normal Green Goblin story of Marvel's foremost publication, Amazing Spider-Man. This was a death that was sacred through all of comic book time - like Bucky's, Jason Todd's, and Uncle Ben's - obviously until the recent age of comics where sacred is thrown out the window for sales.

But this death mattered. We all could love Gwen Stacy and we all would feel a little cringe, or voice an "oh! man..." when reading this issue and seeing that tiny, tiny, tiny little sound effect on the page... -snap!-.

The emotional gamut that this book evokes - even amidst the very cliche Silver Age writing, is a gauntlet that doesn't let up. From Harry Osbourne's drug issues, to the return of Norman's Green Goblin, to the nature of Spider-Man's attitude in this story. The character wakes up and goes about his life like a normal day, simply humanly naive to the fact that the day could end in a way that never entered his mind. Something we can all identify with - you wake up and take a day for granted, go home like everything is normal only to end your day finding out that is absolutely was not.

This book was a turning point that guided the direction of Spider-Man titles literally for the next 40 years. It has been referenced on screen, in an equally poignant way (it can't be denied that no matter your thoughts on the Amazing Spider-Man 2, the death of Gwen scene was done in a way that was galvanizing emotionally for anyone watching it). Amazing Spider-Man #121 is not a cheap comic on the market, but is still, arguably, an undervalued gem given it's masterful craftsmanship, emotional impact, long-lasting ramifications, and even spawning evoking modern pop culture references to this day. Amazing Spider-Man #121 is easily of the most key Spider-Man books ever created, and it was done without marketing hype, without an announced headline about "changing things forever" or other false promises. It still resonates today even through the writing tropes of it's time. Uncle Ben was a hero-birthing tragedy, but in a hobby filled with heroes who are "reborn" and perpetually young, the death of Gwen Stacy was a galvanizing event that puts in perspective how short life can really be.

Nice analysis.

[nycjadie]

I've looked at Amazing Spider-man #121 several times as being undervalued, and I keep coming back to the fact that Spider-man's butt is the focal point in the center of the cover and I don't want to pay money for Spider-man's butt.



I'll go ahead and prepare the quote thread for you guys:

I don't want to pay money for Spider-man's butt.

That book is now forever ruined in my eyes. Sort of like a friend telling me that an attractive woman I know looks like Steve Buscemi.

[GGSAE]

121 is an amazing cover! Also, the same could be said for 122 and 129. Iconic books with amazing artwork!

[StarBrand]

Agreed!

[greg]

Spidey butt lovers.

[jeremycoe]

Spidey butt lovers.

"I like spidey-butt and I can not lie"

[StarBrand]

Teed up for the quote thread...

[depluto]

Sort of like a friend telling me that an attractive woman I know looks like Steve Buscemi.

One of you is lying.

[possumgrease]

Maybe Romita was trying to provide a slightly more anatomically correct spider. You can imagine the web shooting from that area. You don't have to of course.

[nycjadie]

Sort of like a friend telling me that an attractive woman I know looks like Steve Buscemi.

One of you is lying.

Hah!