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It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:...This means Gamete could still be alive, too? :clap: :hm:
we witnessed Gametes death, no coming back from that
Gamete is the Super-Fetus. We only witnessed the death of the host body...Diana Maria Aguilar.

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greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:...This means Gamete could still be alive, too? :clap: :hm:
we witnessed Gametes death, no coming back from that
Gamete is the Super-Fetus. We only witnessed the death of the host body...Diana Maria Aguilar.
Words from Rafer's mouth in the WhoDoo TV episode we interviewed him, she's gone.
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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Could be challenged by stating the BoD has been changing, since the Geomancer has been reading it. She has changed a good deal that we just don't know yet.
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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:...This means Gamete could still be alive, too? :clap: :hm:
we witnessed Gametes death, no coming back from that
Gamete is the Super-Fetus. We only witnessed the death of the host body...Diana Maria Aguilar.
Words from Rafer's mouth in the WhoDoo TV episode we interviewed him, she's gone.
Rafer didn't know what he was talking about... and we're talking about the "Super-Fetus".

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:...This means Gamete could still be alive, too? :clap: :hm:
we witnessed Gametes death, no coming back from that
Gamete is the Super-Fetus. We only witnessed the death of the host body...Diana Maria Aguilar.
Words from Rafer's mouth in the WhoDoo TV episode we interviewed him, she's gone.
Rafer didn't know what he was talking about... and we're talking about the "Super-Fetus".
I agree, I wanted that fetus born, so we would have another Omega. Alas, that won't happen
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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Now you're talking!

Saana is alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar... so we need a scenario where Aric believes Saana died, but Shanhara knows that Saana lives and that she's pregnant.
That's actually easier, because Saana could just tell Shanhara not to tell Aric she survived and that she's pregnant. If Aric believed that Saana died, then he'd do the same things.
What would make Saana tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? I don't know, but it's plausible... and it doesn't involve anyone actually dying.

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Aport wrote:Ok... a few points to remember or think about....
1. Aric will be back on earth to fight Harada in Harbinger Wars 2. If the promo ads stay true.
2. The current X-O series is only scheduled for 12 issues, from what I believe was first announced, but this may (and I hope) has been changed.
3. The Aric at the start of volume 4 is not the same Aric in X-O 50. He is beaten, scared, and content to live life out on a farm. (Granted with a hot blue woman with a tail). This is not the Aric at the start or end vol 3, a man that wants to be king. Which leads to .....
4. The real question is not where he is but when. He may have time traveled to the pass to set up some chain of events that leads to something that completes a loop. Maybe he will cause the bone plague that starts the creation of the X-O armor. We can run wild guessing the reasons.
5. He is unable to reach or communicate with Saana. This leads me to the time difference. The VEI Aric is an honorable monogamous man. (I personally like the VH1 Aric that was down for a threesome in New Orleans, but that's just me) So, the only thing that could keep our hero like him away from his second love of his life, and lay with lady blue is time.
6. We have to prepare for the fact that this series may end with Aric still away and not returning to earth, or at least not the time we believe he would return.
7. The armor is a real wet blanket this series. Somebody get the armor a drink. Most powerful intelligent weapon in the cosmos, but no one is calling it on its birthday, lol.
8. What's up on New Loam. I just miss the Spider Aliens.

Just some thoughts....
I'm enjoying the new series.
I hadn't considered time travel. With the knowledge of the Torment he probably could figure out a way to time travel. I would just imagine that possessing the knowledge of the cosmos would change someone dramatically.

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greg wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Now you're talking!

Saana is alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar... so we need a scenario where Aric believes Saana died, but Shanhara knows that Saana lives and that she's pregnant.
That's actually easier, because Saana could just tell Shanhara not to tell Aric she survived and that she's pregnant. If Aric believed that Saana died, then he'd do the same things.
What would make Saana tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? I don't know, but it's plausible... and it doesn't involve anyone actually dying.
Rather than believing that Aric is cheating on Saana, what if Saana was cheating on Aric? Volo has always seemed like a secretly shifty guy and Aric is gone for so long on his GATE assignments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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greg wrote:
greg wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Now you're talking!

Saana is alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar... so we need a scenario where Aric believes Saana died, but Shanhara knows that Saana lives and that she's pregnant.
That's actually easier, because Saana could just tell Shanhara not to tell Aric she survived and that she's pregnant. If Aric believed that Saana died, then he'd do the same things.
What would make Saana tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? I don't know, but it's plausible... and it doesn't involve anyone actually dying.
Rather than believing that Aric is cheating on Saana, what if Saana was cheating on Aric? Volo has always seemed like a secretly shifty guy and Aric is gone for so long on his GATE assignments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, I guess, that's your reason for Saana to tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? Wait! What?!? :?

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:
greg wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Now you're talking!

Saana is alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar... so we need a scenario where Aric believes Saana died, but Shanhara knows that Saana lives and that she's pregnant.
That's actually easier, because Saana could just tell Shanhara not to tell Aric she survived and that she's pregnant. If Aric believed that Saana died, then he'd do the same things.
What would make Saana tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? I don't know, but it's plausible... and it doesn't involve anyone actually dying.
Rather than believing that Aric is cheating on Saana, what if Saana was cheating on Aric? Volo has always seemed like a secretly shifty guy and Aric is gone for so long on his GATE assignments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, I guess, that's your reason for Saana to tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? Wait! What?!? :?
No, I'm throwing out a new theory altogether...

Saana was cheating on Aric. Aric found out (with or without the Torment's info) and left Earth.
Shanhara knowing about Saana being pregnant would just be a regular Shanhara ability.
Shanhara not telling Aric would be because Shanhara knows Aric isn't/wasn't ready.
Aric being mad at Shanhara could be that he was away all the time doing X-O Manowar stuff, plus, Shanhara may have known Saana was cheating and didn't tell him.

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Don't forget Saana is a plantling.

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Aport wrote:Don't forget Saana is a plantling.
Wild theory or do you have evidence?
(She was part of the human slaves for the Vine, so I'm not sure why they would have a planting among the slaves... except to be a spy... but she'd be treated like a slave when she wasn't one.)

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greg wrote:
Aport wrote:Don't forget Saana is a plantling.
Wild theory or do you have evidence?
(She was part of the human slaves for the Vine, so I'm not sure why they would have a planting among the slaves... except to be a spy... but she'd be treated like a slave when she wasn't one.)
I remember V-ditti saying there was a traitor close to Aric. Would make sense that it was her.
I believe this was never exposed. The fans like Saana so they never followed thru, but it would make a great story.

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Aport wrote:Ok... a few points to remember or think about....
1. Aric will be back on earth to fight Harada in Harbinger Wars 2. If the promo ads stay true.
2. The current X-O series is only scheduled for 12 issues, from what I believe was first announced, but this may (and I hope) has been changed.
3. The Aric at the start of volume 4 is not the same Aric in X-O 50. He is beaten, scared, and content to live life out on a farm. (Granted with a hot blue woman with a tail). This is not the Aric at the start or end vol 3, a man that wants to be king. Which leads to .....
4. The real question is not where he is but when. He may have time traveled to the pass to set up some chain of events that leads to something that completes a loop. Maybe he will cause the bone plague that starts the creation of the X-O armor. We can run wild guessing the reasons.
5. He is unable to reach or communicate with Saana. This leads me to the time difference. The VEI Aric is an honorable monogamous man. (I personally like the VH1 Aric that was down for a threesome in New Orleans, but that's just me) So, the only thing that could keep our hero like him away from his second love of his life, and lay with lady blue is time.
6. We have to prepare for the fact that this series may end with Aric still away and not returning to earth, or at least not the time we believe he would return.
7. The armor is a real wet blanket this series. Somebody get the armor a drink. Most powerful intelligent weapon in the cosmos, but no one is calling it on its birthday, lol.
8. What's up on New Loam. I just miss the Spider Aliens.

Just some thoughts....
I'm enjoying the new series.
1) More than just the promo adds, Kindt has already said so.
2) The current series has the first 12 books already ready for print. This was stated at the start of the series, as Kindt had already written the first year.
3) This is exactly what we are speculating, what caused Aric to act the way he is acting.
4) No time travel, the going time difference is one year after XO-50. Nothing has been stated, but it is what the common belief is.
5) He left Earth, thinking it's obvious he did not want to contact earth, he simply doesn't care. He is angry about something, and this too is what we are debating. He is NOT an honorable monogamous man, or he wouldn't be sleeping with a blue alien, regardless of hotness, lol.
6) HW2 pictures show him back on earth. There has been art associating a battle with him and Peter. Also, there was just another release from the HW Dossier showing him back on earth. Still speculative, I know
7) Wet blanket? I so disagree here! She is the primary baseline for Aric, trying to help him get over whatever problem he had with Earth. Basically, she is his glue, his beckoning to come back to reality.
You're saying it couldn't be time travel because people haven't speculated about that yet? I don't remember hearing anything but speculation. Until I hear different I'm open to considering that this could be a time travel book, or that something went terribly wrong when Abram fixed the Stalinverse, or that this books timeline is out of synch with the timeline for HW2. Bloodshot is in HW2 as well and his book will not be involved as its placed in the future.

Maybe XO is fallout from HW2 and we won't realize it until next year, or maybe he travelled through time for some epic adventure that lasts years for him and he will return into the current timeline just in time to join HW2 having been gone 1 year.

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tell wrote:
TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Aport wrote:Ok... a few points to remember or think about....
1. Aric will be back on earth to fight Harada in Harbinger Wars 2. If the promo ads stay true.
2. The current X-O series is only scheduled for 12 issues, from what I believe was first announced, but this may (and I hope) has been changed.
3. The Aric at the start of volume 4 is not the same Aric in X-O 50. He is beaten, scared, and content to live life out on a farm. (Granted with a hot blue woman with a tail). This is not the Aric at the start or end vol 3, a man that wants to be king. Which leads to .....
4. The real question is not where he is but when. He may have time traveled to the pass to set up some chain of events that leads to something that completes a loop. Maybe he will cause the bone plague that starts the creation of the X-O armor. We can run wild guessing the reasons.
5. He is unable to reach or communicate with Saana. This leads me to the time difference. The VEI Aric is an honorable monogamous man. (I personally like the VH1 Aric that was down for a threesome in New Orleans, but that's just me) So, the only thing that could keep our hero like him away from his second love of his life, and lay with lady blue is time.
6. We have to prepare for the fact that this series may end with Aric still away and not returning to earth, or at least not the time we believe he would return.
7. The armor is a real wet blanket this series. Somebody get the armor a drink. Most powerful intelligent weapon in the cosmos, but no one is calling it on its birthday, lol.
8. What's up on New Loam. I just miss the Spider Aliens.

Just some thoughts....
I'm enjoying the new series.
1) More than just the promo adds, Kindt has already said so.
2) The current series has the first 12 books already ready for print. This was stated at the start of the series, as Kindt had already written the first year.
3) This is exactly what we are speculating, what caused Aric to act the way he is acting.
4) No time travel, the going time difference is one year after XO-50. Nothing has been stated, but it is what the common belief is.
5) He left Earth, thinking it's obvious he did not want to contact earth, he simply doesn't care. He is angry about something, and this too is what we are debating. He is NOT an honorable monogamous man, or he wouldn't be sleeping with a blue alien, regardless of hotness, lol.
6) HW2 pictures show him back on earth. There has been art associating a battle with him and Peter. Also, there was just another release from the HW Dossier showing him back on earth. Still speculative, I know
7) Wet blanket? I so disagree here! She is the primary baseline for Aric, trying to help him get over whatever problem he had with Earth. Basically, she is his glue, his beckoning to come back to reality.
You're saying it couldn't be time travel because people haven't speculated about that yet? I don't remember hearing anything but speculation. Until I hear different I'm open to considering that this could be a time travel book, or that something went terribly wrong when Abram fixed the Stalinverse, or that this books timeline is out of synch with the timeline for HW2. Bloodshot is in HW2 as well and his book will not be involved as its placed in the future.

Maybe XO is fallout from HW2 and we won't realize it until next year, or maybe he travelled through time for some epic adventure that lasts years for him and he will return into the current timeline just in time to join HW2 having been gone 1 year.
I believe there have already been a few hints that it is safe to assume this story is not taking place 1 year after XO #50. The main hint is the sheer absent of a date. Why would the very first panel not state "Planet Gorin. 12 Months Later." if the story took place 12 months later?

1) Schon mentions she doesn't want to work as a waitress "9 days a week" for the rest of her life. - This could even be a specific hint to this taking place in the past.
2) Gorin having more than just 1 sun. - Meaning 1 Gorin year may not equal 1 Earth year.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone." - This doesn't sound like only 12 months have passed and he has just aged 1 year. Not at all!
4) The crashed Psi-Lords ship. - Some sort of time travel, or time-displacement, must have happened at some point. Either to Aric, or the Planet Gorin.
5) There are dinosaur-like creatures and knight-like armors on Gorin.

6) This is the Valiant Universe! From Divinity #1:
We must change our perception of time. Time is not absolute! ... We must understand the true qualities of time as it relates to distance.

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greg wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:
greg wrote:
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greg wrote:It's all theory, but you can imagine a scenario where something happened to Saana, possibly Aric/Shanhara's fault... so Aric could send Shanhara to save Saana. In communicating with Saana, Shanhara would have learned about the child and possibly even taken Saana's instruction to save the child but let Saana die. So, Aric might know that Shanhara let Saana die and hate Shanhara for that... but he might not know why Shanhara let Saana die... and he might have been the one to accidentally wound/kill Saana in the first place using Shanhara... so he might partially blame Shanhara for that too.

Leaving Earth would make sense. He'd be lonely, he'd hate himself, he'd hate Shanhara, and Shanhara would be "partially" at fault, but Shanhara was a little girl once... so Shanhara's bond with Saana, the daughter, and even the blue alien could be more than Aric realizes.
But Saana's still alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar....... and Kris is still alive, too! :P
Now you're talking!

Saana is alive in The Fall of X-O Manowar... so we need a scenario where Aric believes Saana died, but Shanhara knows that Saana lives and that she's pregnant.
That's actually easier, because Saana could just tell Shanhara not to tell Aric she survived and that she's pregnant. If Aric believed that Saana died, then he'd do the same things.
What would make Saana tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? I don't know, but it's plausible... and it doesn't involve anyone actually dying.
Rather than believing that Aric is cheating on Saana, what if Saana was cheating on Aric? Volo has always seemed like a secretly shifty guy and Aric is gone for so long on his GATE assignments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, I guess, that's your reason for Saana to tell Shanhara to lie to X-O? Wait! What?!? :?
No, I'm throwing out a new theory altogether...

Saana was cheating on Aric. Aric found out (with or without the Torment's info) and left Earth.
Shanhara knowing about Saana being pregnant would just be a regular Shanhara ability.
Shanhara not telling Aric would be because Shanhara knows Aric isn't/wasn't ready.
Aric being mad at Shanhara could be that he was away all the time doing X-O Manowar stuff, plus, Shanhara may have known Saana was cheating and didn't tell him.

This armor has caused me nothing but trouble. Kept me from my wife. Kept secrets from me. I'll just be a farmer on another planet.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone."

This also doesn't sound like Saana betrayed him like that.

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Re: Question about the new X-O run

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
greg wrote:No, I'm throwing out a new theory altogether...

Saana was cheating on Aric. Aric found out (with or without the Torment's info) and left Earth.
Shanhara knowing about Saana being pregnant would just be a regular Shanhara ability.
Shanhara not telling Aric would be because Shanhara knows Aric isn't/wasn't ready.
Aric being mad at Shanhara could be that he was away all the time doing X-O Manowar stuff, plus, Shanhara may have known Saana was cheating and didn't tell him.

This armor has caused me nothing but trouble. Kept me from my wife. Kept secrets from me. I'll just be a farmer on another planet.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone."

This also doesn't sound like Saana betrayed him like that.
Good point. :clap:

"Long gone" does sound like Aric has lived a lot longer than one year... so I'm on board with the theory that a year has passed for the Valiant universe, but it has been much longer for him.
(...and probably a different "year" for Neela, Ank, Faith, etc., over in Faith and the Future Force)

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:I believe there have already been a few hints that it is safe to assume this story is not taking place 1 year after XO #50. The main hint is the sheer absent of a date. Why would the very first panel not state "Planet Gorin. 12 Months Later." if the story took place 12 months later?

1) Schon mentions she doesn't want to work as a waitress "9 days a week" for the rest of her life. - This could even be a specific hint to this taking place in the past.
2) Gorin having more than just 1 sun. - Meaning 1 Gorin year may not equal 1 Earth year.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone." - This doesn't sound like only 12 months have passed and he has just aged 1 year. Not at all!
4) The crashed Psi-Lords ship. - Some sort of time travel, or time-displacement, must have happened at some point. Either to Aric, or the Planet Gorin.
5) There are dinosaur-like creatures and knight-like armors on Gorin.

6) This is the Valiant Universe! From Divinity #1:
We must change our perception of time. Time is not absolute! ... We must understand the true qualities of time as it relates to distance.
OK, I will cede my point, as your point is pretty solid. He does look much older in this current installment. Maybe, like Greg stated, a year on Earth, but a much longer time where he eventually landed. Time travel, ala Psi-Lords I'm not quite so sure of. Never read any of the VH1 PsyLords, did they master time travel?

As far as time travel, I'd bring up the point of Time Dilation, much like he went through to get from the Vine planet, back to Earth. Read this article comparing XO Manowar and time travel, it's very deep, but still very fun to read! The time we need to be talking about is not days, weeks, years, but light years. That is the only constant time.

http://www.thescienceof.org/space-scien ... o-manowar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:I believe there have already been a few hints that it is safe to assume this story is not taking place 1 year after XO #50. The main hint is the sheer absent of a date. Why would the very first panel not state "Planet Gorin. 12 Months Later." if the story took place 12 months later?

1) Schon mentions she doesn't want to work as a waitress "9 days a week" for the rest of her life. - This could even be a specific hint to this taking place in the past.
2) Gorin having more than just 1 sun. - Meaning 1 Gorin year may not equal 1 Earth year.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone." - This doesn't sound like only 12 months have passed and he has just aged 1 year. Not at all!
4) The crashed Psi-Lords ship. - Some sort of time travel, or time-displacement, must have happened at some point. Either to Aric, or the Planet Gorin.
5) There are dinosaur-like creatures and knight-like armors on Gorin.

6) This is the Valiant Universe! From Divinity #1:
We must change our perception of time. Time is not absolute! ... We must understand the true qualities of time as it relates to distance.
OK, I will cede my point, as your point is pretty solid. He does look much older in this current installment. Maybe, like Greg stated, a year on Earth, but a much longer time where he eventually landed. Time travel, ala Psi-Lords I'm not quite so sure of. Never read any of the VH1 PsyLords, did they master time travel?

As far as time travel, I'd bring up the point of Time Dilation, much like he went through to get from the Vine planet, back to Earth. Read this article comparing XO Manowar and time travel, it's very deep, but still very fun to read! The time we need to be talking about is not days, weeks, years, but light years. That is the only constant time.

http://www.thescienceof.org/space-scien ... o-manowar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
OK, given that the X-O Manowar (2012) series was about how much time passed on Earth compared to how little time passed for Aric, it probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that the X-O Manowar (2017) series could be about how much time passed for Aric compared to how little time passed on Earth.

Therefore, a fundamental difference in the starting points for the two series... and a brand new #1 issue for 2017. :thumb:

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TheeBaldMoose wrote:
Sunlight on Snow wrote:I believe there have already been a few hints that it is safe to assume this story is not taking place 1 year after XO #50. The main hint is the sheer absent of a date. Why would the very first panel not state "Planet Gorin. 12 Months Later." if the story took place 12 months later?

1) Schon mentions she doesn't want to work as a waitress "9 days a week" for the rest of her life. - This could even be a specific hint to this taking place in the past.
2) Gorin having more than just 1 sun. - Meaning 1 Gorin year may not equal 1 Earth year.
3) Aric saying "I was younger. A different person. I've seen so much since then. The man she loved.... is long gone." - This doesn't sound like only 12 months have passed and he has just aged 1 year. Not at all!
4) The crashed Psi-Lords ship. - Some sort of time travel, or time-displacement, must have happened at some point. Either to Aric, or the Planet Gorin.
5) There are dinosaur-like creatures and knight-like armors on Gorin.

6) This is the Valiant Universe! From Divinity #1:
We must change our perception of time. Time is not absolute! ... We must understand the true qualities of time as it relates to distance.
OK, I will cede my point, as your point is pretty solid. He does look much older in this current installment. Maybe, like Greg stated, a year on Earth, but a much longer time where he eventually landed. Time travel, ala Psi-Lords I'm not quite so sure of. Never read any of the VH1 PsyLords, did they master time travel?

As far as time travel, I'd bring up the point of Time Dilation, much like he went through to get from the Vine planet, back to Earth. Read this article comparing XO Manowar and time travel, it's very deep, but still very fun to read! The time we need to be talking about is not days, weeks, years, but light years. That is the only constant time.

http://www.thescienceof.org/space-scien ... o-manowar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Time Dilation," yes! :high-five:

Great article!

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Re: Question about the new X-O run

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Yes! Like I said, Aric is caught in some Time Dilation trap.

So here are the basic questions we have;

When did Aric leave earth?
Also, Why? Did he leave on his own or was he forced?

Can he make it back to earth?
If yes, then why doesn't he return?
If no, then what does he need to return?

If he does come back to earth, at what earth time would he arrive?
Is this journey setting him up to be an off world emperor that will lead an army back to earth to save earth from some oppressive force? Maybe against the Psi-Lords? Maybe in the 4001AD timeline?
(World War hulkish)

I hope he lands in the Britannia storyline and kills some romans... just for the great covers they would make. Nothing like roman blood dripping off the armor, lol.

Sometimes the questions are better than answers. Either way this series has us questioning everything.
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Aport wrote:If he does come back to earth, at what earth time would he arrive?
This one is easy.... it will be about HWARS2 time.

By the end of issue #9 there will be no one left on Planet Gorin anyway, then comes the interlude, and the final arc is called Visigoth!

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Re: Question about the new X-O run

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Sunlight on Snow wrote:
Aport wrote:If he does come back to earth, at what earth time would he arrive?
This one is easy.... it will be about HWARS2 time.

By the end of issue #9 there will be no one left on Planet Gorin anyway, then comes the interlude, and the final arc is called Visigoth!
At this time I believe the events of HW2 will cause him to leave earth.
I believe he may return in the future,....X-O vs Rai or Psi-Lords.

I hope there is a reason he is on Gorin, even if he doesn't know the reason.
At the end of this run, we may find out Aric started some chain reaction that he can't see.


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