Knights Legacy

[MarkRoseHFX]

Hey all check out the sneak peek of the upcoming graphic novel Knights Legacy: Awakening of the Pendragon written by Michael Sacal (MotA) with art by J Andrey Portilla:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... aeab651c1c

Give it a look and like it and help him get the word out

[ManofTheAtom]

Thanks!

[lorddunlow]

Man... What Happened to MarkRoseHFX?


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[ManofTheAtom]

Man... What Happened to MarkRoseHFX?


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He's on Facebook. We briefly exchanged a few words the other day.

https://www.facebook.com/MarkRoseHFX

[lorddunlow]

Ah. Facebook is the devil.

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[ManofTheAtom]

Ah. Facebook is the devil.

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It's kept me connected to people, so I'm okay with it, heh.

[Chiclo]

Ah. Facebook is the devil.

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One of many.

[Ryan]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

[ManofTheAtom]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

Okay, an update. Thanks for prompting. (though I touched on some of these points before here)

In the decade since I tried to do this solo, I've partnered with a company in the US called "Golden Bell Entertainment", which to date has mainly focused on tabletop games, card games, plushies, and things of that nature.

Since we first started working together, they named me editor in chief of their comic book like, which I've called "Golden Liberty Comics" in an effort to stick to a form of branding around American icons like the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, Declaration of Independence, etc.

But for the pandemic, we probably would have launched a Kickstarter for the first issue of Knights' Legacy years ago, but COVID really hampered us.

I'm hopeful that things will improve in the next 18 months if not earlier and we can complete production not just on Knights' Legacy #1 but also several other comics that will be published as part of Golden Liberty.

As for KL's format, I'm hopeful it'll be as single issues, but the economics of things will ultimately determine that.

In my view, If I just drop a graphic novel into the market, it'll be swallowed whole, forgotten, and tossed aside. On the other hand, if we publish as single issues of the course of six to eight months, that can create awareness through word of mouth.

My goal, luck willing, is to have something always available every month so people don't forget us.

[Ryan]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

Okay, an update. Thanks for prompting. (though I touched on some of these points before here)

In the decade since I tried to do this solo, I've partnered with a company in the US called "Golden Bell Entertainment", which to date has mainly focused on tabletop games, card games, plushies, and things of that nature.

Since we first started working together, they named me editor in chief of their comic book like, which I've called "Golden Liberty Comics" in an effort to stick to a form of branding around American icons like the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, Declaration of Independence, etc.

But for the pandemic, we probably would have launched a Kickstarter for the first issue of Knights' Legacy years ago, but COVID really hampered us.

I'm hopeful that things will improve in the next 18 months if not earlier and we can complete production not just on Knights' Legacy #1 but also several other comics that will be published as part of Golden Liberty.

As for KL's format, I'm hopeful it'll be as single issues, but the economics of things will ultimately determine that.

In my view, If I just drop a graphic novel into the market, it'll be swallowed whole, forgotten, and tossed aside. On the other hand, if we publish as single issues of the course of six to eight months, that can create awareness through word of mouth.

My goal, luck willing, is to have something always available every month so people don't forget us.

Very cool, thanks for the update.

The whole graphic novel vs single issues is definitely a dilemma when it comes to kickstarter/crowdfunding.

Like you said, doing only graphic novels makes for a long wait between installments, and it can be hard to build a fanbase with momentum that way. Not to mention more pages = more of an investment before they can be sold to get some of that money back.

Doing regular single issues creates that momentum and makes each issue's investment smaller, and hopefully the money made from each issue can be then used to create more issues and become self-sustaining.

However the problem is the crowdfund model favors the graphic novel format. Mainly because of the cost of shipping, it usually ends up being $10-20 for a single issue.

I've paid that for single issues on kickstarter before, but it can make it a stretch for people on the fence to buy the book. Ideally single issues could stay within the $5 range to compete with mainstream single issues, but crowdfunding makes that practically impossible.

I've seen both models work at times, and other times not work, so while it's certainly challenging either way it can be done.

[ManofTheAtom]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

Okay, an update. Thanks for prompting. (though I touched on some of these points before here)

In the decade since I tried to do this solo, I've partnered with a company in the US called "Golden Bell Entertainment", which to date has mainly focused on tabletop games, card games, plushies, and things of that nature.

Since we first started working together, they named me editor in chief of their comic book like, which I've called "Golden Liberty Comics" in an effort to stick to a form of branding around American icons like the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, Declaration of Independence, etc.

But for the pandemic, we probably would have launched a Kickstarter for the first issue of Knights' Legacy years ago, but COVID really hampered us.

I'm hopeful that things will improve in the next 18 months if not earlier and we can complete production not just on Knights' Legacy #1 but also several other comics that will be published as part of Golden Liberty.

As for KL's format, I'm hopeful it'll be as single issues, but the economics of things will ultimately determine that.

In my view, If I just drop a graphic novel into the market, it'll be swallowed whole, forgotten, and tossed aside. On the other hand, if we publish as single issues of the course of six to eight months, that can create awareness through word of mouth.

My goal, luck willing, is to have something always available every month so people don't forget us.

Very cool, thanks for the update.

The whole graphic novel vs single issues is definitely a dilemma when it comes to kickstarter/crowdfunding.

Like you said, doing only graphic novels makes for a long wait between installments, and it can be hard to build a fanbase with momentum that way. Not to mention more pages = more of an investment before they can be sold to get some of that money back.

Doing regular single issues creates that momentum and makes each issue's investment smaller, and hopefully the money made from each issue can be then used to create more issues and become self-sustaining.

However the problem is the crowdfund model favors the graphic novel format. Mainly because of the cost of shipping, it usually ends up being $10-20 for a single issue.

I've paid that for single issues on kickstarter before, but it can make it a stretch for people on the fence to buy the book. Ideally single issues could stay within the $5 range to compete with mainstream single issues, but crowdfunding makes that practically impossible.

I've seen both models work at times, and other times not work, so while it's certainly challenging either way it can be done.

Yeah, that is definitely a problem with the crowdfunding model.

I'm hopeful we can find a way around it.

[Ryan]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

Okay, an update. Thanks for prompting. (though I touched on some of these points before here)

In the decade since I tried to do this solo, I've partnered with a company in the US called "Golden Bell Entertainment", which to date has mainly focused on tabletop games, card games, plushies, and things of that nature.

Since we first started working together, they named me editor in chief of their comic book like, which I've called "Golden Liberty Comics" in an effort to stick to a form of branding around American icons like the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, Declaration of Independence, etc.

But for the pandemic, we probably would have launched a Kickstarter for the first issue of Knights' Legacy years ago, but COVID really hampered us.

I'm hopeful that things will improve in the next 18 months if not earlier and we can complete production not just on Knights' Legacy #1 but also several other comics that will be published as part of Golden Liberty.

As for KL's format, I'm hopeful it'll be as single issues, but the economics of things will ultimately determine that.

In my view, If I just drop a graphic novel into the market, it'll be swallowed whole, forgotten, and tossed aside. On the other hand, if we publish as single issues of the course of six to eight months, that can create awareness through word of mouth.

My goal, luck willing, is to have something always available every month so people don't forget us.

Very cool, thanks for the update.

The whole graphic novel vs single issues is definitely a dilemma when it comes to kickstarter/crowdfunding.

Like you said, doing only graphic novels makes for a long wait between installments, and it can be hard to build a fanbase with momentum that way. Not to mention more pages = more of an investment before they can be sold to get some of that money back.

Doing regular single issues creates that momentum and makes each issue's investment smaller, and hopefully the money made from each issue can be then used to create more issues and become self-sustaining.

However the problem is the crowdfund model favors the graphic novel format. Mainly because of the cost of shipping, it usually ends up being $10-20 for a single issue.

I've paid that for single issues on kickstarter before, but it can make it a stretch for people on the fence to buy the book. Ideally single issues could stay within the $5 range to compete with mainstream single issues, but crowdfunding makes that practically impossible.

I've seen both models work at times, and other times not work, so while it's certainly challenging either way it can be done.

Yeah, that is definitely a problem with the crowdfunding model.

I'm hopeful we can find a way around it.

It can definitely work, the biggest hurdle might be the first issue due to lack of awareness and history. Once a few issues get produced the previous issues be offered as package deals and bundles with the current issue, then it can really build and gain momentum.

[ManofTheAtom]

Are you still planning to do a kickstarter? Single issues or graphic novels?

Okay, an update. Thanks for prompting. (though I touched on some of these points before here)

In the decade since I tried to do this solo, I've partnered with a company in the US called "Golden Bell Entertainment", which to date has mainly focused on tabletop games, card games, plushies, and things of that nature.

Since we first started working together, they named me editor in chief of their comic book like, which I've called "Golden Liberty Comics" in an effort to stick to a form of branding around American icons like the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, Declaration of Independence, etc.

But for the pandemic, we probably would have launched a Kickstarter for the first issue of Knights' Legacy years ago, but COVID really hampered us.

I'm hopeful that things will improve in the next 18 months if not earlier and we can complete production not just on Knights' Legacy #1 but also several other comics that will be published as part of Golden Liberty.

As for KL's format, I'm hopeful it'll be as single issues, but the economics of things will ultimately determine that.

In my view, If I just drop a graphic novel into the market, it'll be swallowed whole, forgotten, and tossed aside. On the other hand, if we publish as single issues of the course of six to eight months, that can create awareness through word of mouth.

My goal, luck willing, is to have something always available every month so people don't forget us.

Very cool, thanks for the update.

The whole graphic novel vs single issues is definitely a dilemma when it comes to kickstarter/crowdfunding.

Like you said, doing only graphic novels makes for a long wait between installments, and it can be hard to build a fanbase with momentum that way. Not to mention more pages = more of an investment before they can be sold to get some of that money back.

Doing regular single issues creates that momentum and makes each issue's investment smaller, and hopefully the money made from each issue can be then used to create more issues and become self-sustaining.

However the problem is the crowdfund model favors the graphic novel format. Mainly because of the cost of shipping, it usually ends up being $10-20 for a single issue.

I've paid that for single issues on kickstarter before, but it can make it a stretch for people on the fence to buy the book. Ideally single issues could stay within the $5 range to compete with mainstream single issues, but crowdfunding makes that practically impossible.

I've seen both models work at times, and other times not work, so while it's certainly challenging either way it can be done.

Yeah, that is definitely a problem with the crowdfunding model.

I'm hopeful we can find a way around it.

It can definitely work, the biggest hurdle might be the first issue due to lack of awareness and history. Once a few issues get produced the previous issues be offered as package deals and bundles with the current issue, then it can really build and gain momentum.

Absolutely. Even from the start, like say if by some miracle the first KS raised double what is needed to produce the first issue the extra can be used to produce the second.

[ManofTheAtom]

Back when I was first banned I was still able to read the board and noticed that at one point people were discussing my then-current Facebook avatar not knowing what it was.

It was the locket on the cover of the first issue of Knights' Legacy. Each dragon is intended to represent a different member of the House of the Pendragon, with Uther in the center, Arthur below him, Mordred above him, and Mordred's two children to his side on the right.

The dragon on the left was added after the fact using a knife to represent Arthur's child with -- not Guinevere...

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[Ryan]

Any chance this will ever see the light of day?

Kickstarter has a lot more people on it looking to buy comics than 10 years ago. Even re-running the same campaign might have a different result this time around.

I'm sure a lot of work was done for this, it would be great if the world could get to read it

[ManofTheAtom]

Any chance this will ever see the light of day?

Kickstarter has a lot more people on it looking to buy comics than 10 years ago. Even re-running the same campaign might have a different result this time around.

I JUST saw this or else I'd have responded sooner.

The project is most definitely still alive. The pandemic kicked us in the balls, to be frank.

I recently (last week, so around the time you made this post as it happens...) spoke with my partner Marc Goldner at Golden Bell Entertainment and we're confident that we'll be able to get back to work within the next year (date to TBD).

As for when that work will result in a publishable comic, I'm not sure.

I will say that we're not just working on one comic, but, rather, we're working on an entire shared universe made up of at least half a dozen serries.

As for how that will be financed, we're still looking into our options.

I'm sure a lot of work was done for this, it would be great if the world could get to read it

Thanks! I'm of the belief that I'm a better writer now than I was when this was first put together, so I've been revising the script. The new version of the second issue is MUCH better than the previous one for sure. So, we're using our time wisely. Some work stopped for sure but other has continued.

[Ryan]

I JUST saw this or else I'd have responded sooner.

The project is most definitely still alive. The pandemic kicked us in the balls, to be frank.

I recently (last week, so around the time you made this post as it happens...) spoke with my partner Marc Goldner at Golden Bell Entertainment and we're confident that we'll be able to get back to work within the next year (date to TBD).

As for when that work will result in a publishable comic, I'm not sure.

I will say that we're not just working on one comic, but, rather, we're working on an entire shared universe made up of at least half a dozen serries.

As for how that will be financed, we're still looking into our options.

Thanks! I'm of the belief that I'm a better writer now than I was when this was first put together, so I've been revising the script. The new version of the second issue is MUCH better than the previous one for sure. So, we're using our time wisely. Some work stopped for sure but other has continued.

That's awesome news, glad to hear it! The concepts I've read online (if those are the same ones) do sound very interesting. Best of luck and I can't wait to read them, I'm sure many others on the board will support it as well.

[ManofTheAtom]

I JUST saw this or else I'd have responded sooner.

The project is most definitely still alive. The pandemic kicked us in the balls, to be frank.

I recently (last week, so around the time you made this post as it happens...) spoke with my partner Marc Goldner at Golden Bell Entertainment and we're confident that we'll be able to get back to work within the next year (date to TBD).

As for when that work will result in a publishable comic, I'm not sure.

I will say that we're not just working on one comic, but, rather, we're working on an entire shared universe made up of at least half a dozen serries.

As for how that will be financed, we're still looking into our options.

Thanks! I'm of the belief that I'm a better writer now than I was when this was first put together, so I've been revising the script. The new version of the second issue is MUCH better than the previous one for sure. So, we're using our time wisely. Some work stopped for sure but other has continued.

That's awesome news, glad to hear it! The concepts I've read online (if those are the same ones) do sound very interesting.

What did you see and where? Do you remember the links?

Best of luck and I can't wait to read them, I'm sure many others on the board will support it as well.

Thanks! I'll be sure to post about it here when I know more.

[Ryan]

What did you see and where? Do you remember the links?

Was there some kind of Majestic Universe wiki page? I remember reading some descriptions of different concepts that sounded cool. Are those the same ones?

Thanks! I'll be sure to post about it here when I know more.

Looking forward to it

[ManofTheAtom]

What did you see and where? Do you remember the links?

Was there some kind of Majestic Universe wiki page? I remember reading some descriptions of different concepts that sounded cool. Are those the same ones?

Thanks! I'll be sure to post about it here when I know more.

Looking forward to it

https://majesticuniverse.fandom.com/wik ... udios_Wiki

Yes, I did create one at one point. I do need to update it someday, I just need to remember my log in, lol.

[Ryan]

What did you see and where? Do you remember the links?

Was there some kind of Majestic Universe wiki page? I remember reading some descriptions of different concepts that sounded cool. Are those the same ones?

Thanks! I'll be sure to post about it here when I know more.

Looking forward to it

https://majesticuniverse.fandom.com/wik ... udios_Wiki

Yes, I did create one at one point. I do need to update it someday, I just need to remember my log in, lol.

Nice yeah that's it, some very cool ideas.

[ManofTheAtom]

What did you see and where? Do you remember the links?

Was there some kind of Majestic Universe wiki page? I remember reading some descriptions of different concepts that sounded cool. Are those the same ones?

Thanks! I'll be sure to post about it here when I know more.

Looking forward to it

https://majesticuniverse.fandom.com/wik ... udios_Wiki

Yes, I did create one at one point. I do need to update it someday, I just need to remember my log in, lol.

Nice yeah that's it, some very cool ideas.

Thanks!

Some have definitely been revised. Alas, so is the developmental process, heh. I do think they are better now than they were then for sure.

[ManofTheAtom]

Things are moving forward with Golden Liberty and Majestic.

Slowly, but surely. This year is sounding promising. I hope it lives up to that promise.

[Ryan]

Have you ever considered writing prose? That way you could get some stories out there without having to wait for funding, kickstarters, artists, etc.

With e-publishing and all the affordable self-publishing options these days it's much easier to make a book than it used to be.

[ManofTheAtom]

Have you ever considered writing prose? That way you could get some stories out there without having to wait for funding, kickstarters, artists, etc.

With e-publishing and all the affordable self-publishing options these days it's much easier to make a book than it used to be.

I have, but I really suck at it. Prose, poetry, and music lyrics. Can't do any of those, heh.