Wow, huge slap in the face to kickstarter supporters

[syzhang28]

https://www.edelweiss.plus/#catalogID=4902613&page=2

Valiant has offered the kickstarter hardcover for sale in comic and book stores. All while ignoring the kickstarter backers.

[ManofTheAtom]

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

[ManofTheAtom]

Valiant Classics Archer and Armstrong Revival

Ninjak: The 7th Dragon

These are cool. And they also have the Alien Books logo on the covers.

[MartinAlien]

https://www.edelweiss.plus/#catalogID=4902613&page=2

Valiant has offered the kickstarter hardcover for sale in comic and book stores. All while ignoring the kickstarter backers.

No, that's the softcover edition.

[daniellew61]

Valiant Classics Archer and Armstrong Revival

Ninjak: The 7th Dragon

These are cool. And they also have the Alien Books logo on the covers.

yeah, think of it like vertigo with dc

[ManofTheAtom]

Valiant Classics Archer and Armstrong Revival

Ninjak: The 7th Dragon

These are cool. And they also have the Alien Books logo on the covers.

yeah, think of it like vertigo with dc

That's what I figured. I'm glad the VALIANT brand is not being phased out.

[Ryan]

It would be cool if someone communicated with the kickstarter backers more, but they're obviously working on a lot of things behind the scenes. Let's just give them some time to get everything rolling.

[ManofTheAtom]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

[Ryan]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

[ManofTheAtom]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

[Ryan]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

Yuck. No George Lucas style edits please!

[MartinAlien]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

As a matter of fact, those issues are part of the book. Valiant can't create new stories with Solar or Magnus or reprint their series, but they can reprint their appearances in other titles.

[Ryan]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

As a matter of fact, those issues are part of the book. Valiant can't create new stories with Solar or Magnus or reprint their series, but they can reprint their appearances in other titles.

Good news

[Chiclo]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

They used the name Sniper in the old TPB reprint of X-O. I remember when those first VEI HC reprints came out we wondered which name they would use. I cannot recall which way it went but I think they called him X-Calibre?

[ManofTheAtom]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

As a matter of fact, those issues are part of the book. Valiant can't create new stories with Solar or Magnus or reprint their series, but they can reprint their appearances in other titles.

Oh, cool.

So, Alien could reprint all of Unity, for instance, but just not the two corresponding issues each of the Solar and Magnus comics?

Could Alien use any pages from those series that Magnus and Solar are not in, for instance? I think the one thing of most importance to Unity from Solar was tracking Erica and Albert from the 20th Century to the 40th Century.

[ManofTheAtom]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

I doubt that would be enough. They'd be better off digitally replacing them with Divnity and Savage.

Yuck. No George Lucas style edits please!

[Ryan]

It occurred to me that it's unfortunate that the Archer & Amstrong collection will be incomplete on account of Solar and Magnus' appearance in the first issue and Turok's appearance in the second issue. But it may not hurt the narrative that much since issue 3 picks up where issue 0 left off.

They can't reprint those issues at all because of those characters? That stinks. I wonder how they're able to reprint X-O #3 with X-Caliber? Or is it that Englehart or whoever owns him doesn't care.

Looks like they changed his name to Sniper at some point, maybe that's how they do it. I wonder if changing or editing out the names of the GK3 would let them reprint the guest appearances?

They used the name Sniper in the old TPB reprint of X-O. I remember when those first VEI HC reprints came out we wondered which name they would use. I cannot recall which way it went but I think they called him X-Calibre?

Ah that's what it was. I don't have that X-O hardcover, or I'd check.

[slack]

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

Regarding my direct question to her about Eternal Warrior Scorched Earth:

well, I am not even a Valiant voice anymore. It's a weird feeling after all this time.
It wasn't part of the Alien deal. I don't have any more information on it at all.
Wish I could be of more help.

please make this make sense.

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

It wasn't part of the Alien deal.

If this book is on shelves before it's in my hands, I'm gonna lose my GOT DAM mind!

[MartinAlien]

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

Regarding my direct question to her about Eternal Warrior Scorched Earth:

well, I am not even a Valiant voice anymore. It's a weird feeling after all this time.
It wasn't part of the Alien deal. I don't have any more information on it at all.
Wish I could be of more help.

please make this make sense.

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

It wasn't part of the Alien deal.

If this book is on shelves before it's in my hands, I'm gonna lose my GOT DAM mind!

That's the softcover edition by Alien, not the hardcover from the Kickstarter.

[slack]

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

Regarding my direct question to her about Eternal Warrior Scorched Earth:

well, I am not even a Valiant voice anymore. It's a weird feeling after all this time.
It wasn't part of the Alien deal. I don't have any more information on it at all.
Wish I could be of more help.

please make this make sense.

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

It wasn't part of the Alien deal.

If this book is on shelves before it's in my hands, I'm gonna lose my GOT DAM mind!

That's the softcover edition by Alien, not the hardcover from the Kickstarter.

If you're saying what I think you're saying... this is some infuriating bullshiz... and it's a really disgusting start for Alien to publish that book if the Kickstarter isn't fulfilled first.

That response actually sounds kinda like Alien is just as shady and money-grubbing as DMG. great fit... excellent damage control Martin. Cold, and with zero compassion.

Alien didn't even pay the dam creative team... 531 backers did. Cheap, compassionless, profiting from money stolen from fans.... yeah sounds like DMG still.

[MartinAlien]

I explained this on another thread. The info on the first 2024 books were not supposed to be released now. Of course a softcover edition will never be released before the Kickstarter campaign is fulfilled.

[magnusr]

They used the name Sniper in the old TPB reprint of X-O. I remember when those first VEI HC reprints came out we wondered which name they would use. I cannot recall which way it went but I think they called him X-Calibre?

Ah that's what it was. I don't have that X-O hardcover, or I'd check.

In the omnibus he is called Sniper. Btw, the omnibus reprints X-O issues with Solar in them, but when a complete issue of Solar is needed for reference, then they only write down a summary of that issue.

/Magnus

[slack]

I explained this on another thread. The info on the first 2024 books were not supposed to be released now. Of course a softcover edition will never be released before the Kickstarter campaign is fulfilled.

You people need to get control of your information distribution then... because with the Kickstarter account giving zero responses or updates, even though almost all backers have reported it at this point, it looks REALLY bad when Alien offers to sell it.

You guys need to coordinate with DMG about this stuff.

AS WE ARE PROVING NOW... DMG is actively making Alien look bad with their silence on the Kickstarter issue... and screwing with your potential sales.

The fact that you didn't say this yesterday... you would only say,
that's the softcover, we aren't crooks
why say that, but not reassure us that the Kickstarter was coming first?
The fact that you waited to say that, just makes it seem like you're lying now to shut me up.

[daniellew61]

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

Regarding my direct question to her about Eternal Warrior Scorched Earth:

well, I am not even a Valiant voice anymore. It's a weird feeling after all this time.
It wasn't part of the Alien deal. I don't have any more information on it at all.
Wish I could be of more help.

please make this make sense.

Alien Books logo. Interesting.

It wasn't part of the Alien deal.

If this book is on shelves before it's in my hands, I'm gonna lose my GOT DAM mind!

It's not meant to come out before the Kickstarter.

That's it.

[slack]

It's not meant to come out before the Kickstarter.

That's it.

Then get the communication flowing right.

DMG is making Alien look like A-HOLES. Find a way to get them to respond to the backers and make an update. And then they need to follow through and send out the book.

Until then, Alien Books looks like liars and crooks.

DMG is STILL mismanaging Valiant.