What ever happened to the old bindary editions?

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:36 pm

I don't know if you guys recall this, but back in the old days of collecting before bags and boards became common, there were professional services that offered to bind a run of your favorite comics into a handsome leatherbound book edition. Whatever happened to these volumes? They'd technically be worthless (irrevocably damaging the comics), but I think they'd be cool to own. I wouldn't mind owning a few volumes of my favorite titles at a discounted cost in a beautiful book edition.

Edit: I was able to find one on all of ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/EC-COMICS-INCREDIBL ... dZViewItem

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:46 pm

There were a few Valiant titles that popped up on ebay earlier this year that someone had bound together.

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:12 pm

My LCS owner told me about a guy that brought in his bound copies of ASM 1-? to see what they were worth

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:39 am

Ouch...

tcolli · Post by **tcolli** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:04 am

You can go to a local binder and have this done relatively cheap, about $40 for 25 issues but you are right the issues are ruined. I did this with a Unity run and treasure the leathur book!

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:29 am

That's why I'd rather buy a set that's already been done (hopefully for less than guide price since it's technically "ruined"). I don't think I could bring myself to ruin them myself.

tcolli · Post by **tcolli** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:08 pm

shaxper wrote:That's why I'd rather buy a set that's already been done (hopefully for less than guide price since it's technically "ruined"). I don't think I could bring myself to ruin them myself.

I got the issue for a quarter each so I wasn't too worried about "ruining" them. I really can't tell you how much I cherish the bound volume though, it really is a highlight in my collection personally!

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:09 pm

See, I would do it for some of my silver age runs, like Batman, Doctor Strange, Silver Surfer, House of Mystery, Swamp Thing, Teen Titans and X-Men, but I think I'd grow to regret the loss of resale value. I think I'd buy a straight run of just about anything vintage in a bound collection though.

BrianT · Post by **BrianT** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:47 am

Future Comics did a "Bound Collection" of Freemind #0-3, although it wasn't in leather, looked pretty much just like another trade. You could only tell it was bound, rather than a regular trade, by flipping through it and seeing how it the layout of the pages.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:51 am

Brian Thomer wrote:Future Comics did a "Bound Collection" of Freemind #0-3, although it wasn't in leather, looked pretty much just like another trade. You could only tell it was bound, rather than a regular trade, by flipping through it and seeing how it the layout of the pages.

That's nice. Talking about "paperbound" editions. How common is that in the states? Did Gold Key ever do that? Apart from the example above, the Diamond Unity bound collections are the only I know of.

I have seen foreign rebound copies (some are shown at Foreign Comics by IMissValiant. I have also seen rebound copies of Gold Key comics with their covers removed. I assume that is an illegal edition of comics that should have been shredded. Anyone knows?

/Magnus

danthecomicman · Post by **danthecomicman** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:54 pm

Hey guys - if it's about $40 to bind a book, doesn't this sound like a possible VfVSS project in the future? The Unity series is fairly cheap to gather.

Thoughts?

D.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:28 pm

I dont really think I would like something like that... I like Unity but not THAT much to throw down $40 plus the cost of the issues. I dunno... thats just me.

As the issues were written, you can read them sepately and still get a feel for what was going on but not NEED to get the others, so it does not flow for me in their numeration sequence, so a bound version would not flow for me. Thats just me though...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:40 pm

danthecomicman wrote:Hey guys - if it's about $40 to bind a book, doesn't this sound like a possible VfVSS project in the future? The Unity series is fairly cheap to gather.

Thoughts?

D.

It was brought up earlier this year about doing a Chaos Effect bound edition, but nothing has been said about it lately.

danthecomicman · Post by **danthecomicman** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:06 pm

Knightt wrote:I dont really think I would like something like that... I like Unity but not THAT much to throw down $40 plus the cost of the issues. I dunno... thats just me.

As the issues were written, you can read them sepately and still get a feel for what was going on but not NEED to get the others, so it does not flow for me in their numeration sequence, so a bound version would not flow for me. Thats just me though...

Hey Knight - I guess it's a matter of the marginal value one places on an "exclusive" edition which would be signed/remarked/numbered.

Much like the Psi-Lord flat project, I'm sure there's those on the board who will try to qualify more based on the appeal of the limited nature and the remarking, rather than the title or art per-se.

D.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:14 pm

danthecomicman wrote:Hey Knight - I guess it's a matter of the marginal value one places on an "exclusive" edition which would be signed/remarked/numbered.

Well DUH...

Nothing was mentioned of getting these 'bound' editions, signed, remarked and numbered. THAT is a another animal all together and something even one such as I would have interest in.

But shipping these around the country to get them all signed/remarked or whatever would be a small fortune, elevating the price like nobody's business.

NOW, if you could get them all done at a Con or one is local to the persons involved... THAT would be doable. But I would think that the sheer logistics/money factor would be a bugger.

Any hey... you solicite 'thoughts'... you get 'thoughts'.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:18 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:It was brought up earlier this year about doing a Chaos Effect bound edition, but nothing has been said about it lately.

But you have to ask yourself... would you really WANT a Chaos Effect compiliation ? While bound and looking sexy... I could care less about the Chaos Effect.

How about a really great storyline ? First issues of Magnus ? Solar ? Ya know, something to make me take my hat off about.

Again though... you do ANYTHING and have it signed, numbered and even remarked, you will have interest. Heck, I dont even care if it was The entire Geomancer run bound... if it was signed/remarked and numbered I would try to be first in line. But just to have issues bound to have them bound... <shrug>

childres · Post by **childres** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:53 pm

Knightt wrote:
danthecomicman wrote:Hey Knight - I guess it's a matter of the marginal value one places on an "exclusive" edition which would be signed/remarked/numbered.
Well DUH...

Nothing was mentioned of getting these 'bound' editions, signed, remarked and numbered. THAT is a another animal all together and something even one such as I would have interest in.

But shipping these around the country to get them all signed/remarked or whatever would be a small fortune, elevating the price like nobody's business.

NOW, if you could get them all done at a Con or one is local to the persons involved... THAT would be doable. But I would think that the sheer logistics/money factor would be a bugger.

Any hey... you solicite 'thoughts'... you get 'thoughts'.

Your right about the high cost of shipping. It might save some $ if the sigs, or remarks were done on a seperate page or on the 1st book to be in the edition before they were actually bound together. Just an idea.

-Joe

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:19 pm

Knightt wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:It was brought up earlier this year about doing a Chaos Effect bound edition, but nothing has been said about it lately.
But you have to ask yourself... would you really WANT a Chaos Effect compiliation ? While bound and looking sexy... I could care less about the Chaos Effect.

How about a really great storyline ? First issues of Magnus ? Solar ? Ya know, something to make me take my hat off about.

Again though... you do ANYTHING and have it signed, numbered and even remarked, you will have interest. Heck, I dont even care if it was The entire Geomancer run bound... if it was signed/remarked and numbered I would try to be first in line. But just to have issues bound to have them bound... <shrug>

I know what you mean about the storyline and it would definitely be more appealing with some of the artist’s signatures like has become the norm for these projects. I guess the most intriguing part for me about it is the fact that Valiant was supposed to come out with a Chaos effect "Thank You Edition" that never came to be. Until a few years ago I assumed this thing really existed and looked everywhere for it.

I just think it would be cool to have this done as a project since it looks like it might be the only way we'll ever see it come to light.

tcolli · Post by **tcolli** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:31 pm

The $40 would probably be less if done in bulk (like 50). Also, you would want to have the first filler page signed and remarked and then just have the binder take care of the rest. If anyone is serious about this, PM me and I can give you some information if needed or help.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:08 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:I just think it would be cool to have this done as a project since it looks like it might be the only way we'll ever see it come to light.

I can totally understand this. I seem to remember whispers of this somewhere in my memory and seeing as how that is the case, think that it could be a good homage idea. Any idea on what the cover was supposed to look like ?

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:09 pm

tcolli wrote:The $40 would probably be less if done in bulk (like 50). Also, you would want to have the first filler page signed and remarked and then just have the binder take care of the rest. If anyone is serious about this, PM me and I can give you some information if needed or help.

Now THIS is a MUCH better idea. I guess I was thinking of any number of creators signing and remarking the inside cover of the bound editions as so many writers do these days.

danthecomicman · Post by **danthecomicman** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:54 pm

Knightt wrote:
danthecomicman wrote:Hey Knight - I guess it's a matter of the marginal value one places on an "exclusive" edition which would be signed/remarked/numbered.
Well DUH...

Nothing was mentioned of getting these 'bound' editions, signed, remarked and numbered. THAT is a another animal all together and something even one such as I would have interest in.

Oh - I thought it was understood that VfVSS meant some sort of limited edition/signed treatment....

I agree that the weight/size could make it pricier than the projects in the past, but I like the ideas of either the sigs/remarks/numbering be on one page bound within the book, or getting them signed at a convention.

Off to dinner....

D.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:17 pm

This could be VERY possible....

tcolli · Post by **tcolli** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:52 pm

Knightt wrote:

This could be VERY possible....

Like I said before, if anyone is serious about this let me know. I would be glad to help and have already done this personally on one book so I know a good binder. The only forseeable problem is it takes so long for them to bind the book and 50 could potentally take 6 months to a year to finish.

However, I have a couple great ideas to make this pretty cool if anyone wants to hear them.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:06 pm