Re-Starting The Valiant Universe

[dantheman]

I can't remember if we've done this thread before so if its a repeat I apologize...

If you could restart the Valiant Universe with any Five titles from either VH1 or VH2 which titles would you use to create the new Valiant Universe? For me it would have to be:
XO -VH1
Rai
Quantum and Woody
Solar - VH1
Shadowman -VH1

[Technique]

I can't remember if we've done this thread before so if its a repeat I apologize...

If you could restart the Valiant Universe with any Five titles from either VH1 or VH2 which titles would you use to create the new Valiant Universe? For me it would have to be:
XO -VH1
Rai
Quantum and Woody
Solar - VH1
Shadowman -VH1

I don't know if this specificall has been done.

You've got a good start there. I would exclude the GK characters since it seems likley that they would not be available.

XO
Shadowman
Harbinger
Quantum and Woody
Eternal Warriors (VH1 but inclusive of the whole EW family, specifically Gilad and A&A)

Magnus and Solar would be no-brainers if the GKs were available.

Bloodshot, Ninjak, and Rai would be next.

[X-O HoboJoe]

I think a really fluid take on all the possible Solar stuff would be beneficial to the overall story development.

BTW, Which Rai do you mean?

[dantheman]

Well its just hypothetical so I was including the Gold Key characters... but if I had to remove Solar I'd relpace it with Eternal Warrior.

[X-O HoboJoe]

How bout a Rai/Bloodshot style books ala Et. Warriors?

[dantheman]

BTW, Which Rai do you mean?

Tohru

[X-O HoboJoe]

BTW, Which Rai do you mean?

Tohru

I'm up for that.

[cjv]

Assuming the writing was at par with the writing during Valiant's hey day.


Harbingers
Solar
Archer and Armstrong
Eternal Warrior
XO

Those to me seem to cover the quintissential characters/stories.

Solar started it all.
XO is the main protagonist for the spider aliens.
Harbinger covers Harada
Archer and Armstrong because there is always a need for an "off beat" title.
Eternal Warrior to show the past (and future) of the universe.

I would include Shadowman, but you only said 5 titles.

If we couldn't include GK characters, exchange Shadowman for Solar.

Chris

[jsbt]

Harbinger - A team youth book always works
X-O Manowar
Rai/Bloodshoot - some kind of hybrid book with the various descendants of the Blood of Heroes, maybe from Bloodshoot to Obadiah and beyond; Rai itself was originally such a fascinating, offbeat book, going against the grain. Something that also downplayed the unfortunate Image/Punisher parallels Bloodshot might (unfairly) invoke. Maybe it would span different time periods.
Shadowman
Eternal Warriors - as others have suggested, an 'umbrella' book showing a host of characters, namely Gilad, A&A and Geoff and other Geomancer potentials, straddling all sorts of different storylines and antagonists

Solar is a huge character and concept; I would leave him a sort of omniscient force at inception, watching everything else, and then re-introduce his regular book a little later.

(Alternately, Q&W could come back in place of Shadowman or EW)

[Zero]

V1 Solar
V3 Shadowman
V1 Harbinger
Quantum & Woody
V1 Bloodshot

[Technique]

V1 Solar
V3 Shadowman
V1 Harbinger
Quantum & Woody
V1 Bloodshot

V3 Shadowman would be nice but I would want Bob Hall to be doing the book. If that were the case then I bet he would want the V1 version to work with.

[Daniel Jackson]

V1 Solar
V3 Shadowman
V1 Harbinger
Quantum & Woody
V1 Bloodshot

V3 Shadowman would be nice but I would want Bob Hall to be doing the book. If that were the case then I bet he would want the V1 version to work with.

I would also like to see the V3 Shadowman come back, but I'd like to see Broome do the artwork.

[Zero]

V1 Solar
V3 Shadowman
V1 Harbinger
Quantum & Woody
V1 Bloodshot

V3 Shadowman would be nice but I would want Bob Hall to be doing the book. If that were the case then I bet he would want the V1 version to work with.

I would also like to see the V3 Shadowman come back, but I'd like to see Broome do the artwork.

Ditto. I really like the idea of Priest back on the book as well.

[Byrneout]

Here are my picks, including creative teams listed by artist/writer.

V1 - Harbinger
Creative Team: Lapham, Shooter

V1 - X-O Manowar
Creative Team: BWS, Layton

V2 - Quantum & Woody
Creative Team: Bright, Priest

V1 - Blood Of Heroes (This book would follow Rai, Bloodshot, Gilad, A&A throughout history.)
Creative Team: TBA, Van Hook

V1 - Shadowman
Creative Team: Bob Hall, Shooter

[Technique]

Here are my picks, including creative teams listed by artist/writer.

V1 - Harbinger
Creative Team: Lapham, Shooter

V1 - X-O Manowar
Creative Team: BWS, Layton

V2 - Quantum & Woody
Creative Team: Bright, Priest

V1 - Blood Of Heroes (This book would follow Rai, Bloodshot, Gilad, A&A throughout history.)
Creative Team: TBA, Van Hook

V1 - Shadowman
Creative Team: Bob Hall, Shooter

Very nice Your Blood of Heroes idea is even more inclusive than my Eternal Warriors idea.

[Byrneout]

Here are my picks, including creative teams listed by artist/writer.

V1 - Harbinger
Creative Team: Lapham, Shooter

V1 - X-O Manowar
Creative Team: BWS, Layton

V2 - Quantum & Woody
Creative Team: Bright, Priest

V1 - Blood Of Heroes (This book would follow Rai, Bloodshot, Gilad, A&A throughout history.)
Creative Team: TBA, Van Hook

V1 - Shadowman
Creative Team: Bob Hall, Shooter

Very nice Your Blood of Heroes idea is even more inclusive than my Eternal Warriors idea.

Thank you. My thought was to use it as an rotating story arc title - something to keep the characters out there, and as the company/stories would grow, would be a good litmus test for which charaters should be spun out into their own series. The creative team could even rotate with different characters (who wouldn't want to see BWS do art on a Gilad arc, or write/pencil an A&A arc?) but putting Van Hook over the book as it's chief writer would allow the books stories to maintain consistency from one arc to the next.

I was also thinking about throwing the Geomancers in there as the "bridge" character between the different arcs.

[ManofTheAtom]

Magnus
Solar
X-O Manowar
Harbinger
Rai

It worked the first time...

[Daniel Jackson]

Here are my picks, including creative teams listed by artist/writer.

V1 - Harbinger
Creative Team: Lapham, Shooter

V1 - X-O Manowar
Creative Team: BWS, Layton

V2 - Quantum & Woody
Creative Team: Bright, Priest

V1 - Blood Of Heroes (This book would follow Rai, Bloodshot, Gilad, A&A throughout history.)
Creative Team: TBA, Van Hook

V1 - Shadowman
Creative Team: Bob Hall, Shooter

Very nice Your Blood of Heroes idea is even more inclusive than my Eternal Warriors idea.

Thank you. My thought was to use it as an rotating story arc title - something to keep the characters out there, and as the company/stories would grow, would be a good litmus test for which charaters should be spun out into their own series. The creative team could even rotate with different characters (who wouldn't want to see BWS do art on a Gilad arc, or write/pencil an A&A arc?) but putting Van Hook over the book as it's chief writer would allow the books stories to maintain consistency from one arc to the next.

I was also thinking about throwing the Geomancers in there as the "bridge" character between the different arcs.

I think that's a great idea, maybe some of the lesser "filler" story arcs could then be avoided as we ran into when each character had their own book.

[dellamorte]

X-O
Harbinger
Bloodshot
Eternal Warriors (as above E.W., A&A and Timewalker)
A Showcase style book