Remember, Remember to watch V this weekend

muzzsucker · Post by **muzzsucker** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:05 am

I'm so excited to see this movie. I'm going to watch it first thing Friday. I've heard really great things. Anyone else excited?

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:34 am

Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:37 am

Byrneout wrote:Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.

Doesn't the overall stupidity of some people just AMAZE you? It certainly does me...

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:54 am

myron wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.
Doesn't the overall stupidity of some people just AMAZE you? It certainly does me...

It's phenomenal. I got into a brief discussion of this very debate at my LCS last week. I was calm and rational, and explained how hard it would be for a British man, twenty years ago, to write a scathing critique of the Bush Administration.

His response? "You're an *SQUEE* idiot if you can't see it. A liberal idiot!"

The LCS owner looked at me, lips tightly closed, refusing to respond. I turned my head, and just slowly started walking away, ignoring whatever the guy was saying at that point. The LCS owner then looked at the other guy, and said:

"If I were you, I'd leave. Ric used to work here, so I probably wouldn't ban him for kicking your *SQUEE* in my store."

The guy walked out in a huff, knowing that although he outweighed me by a good 100 pounds, I'd still get the better of him. Hell, I'm certain that a particularly strong toddler would have stood a good chance against this fellow, but eh, the guy wasn't going to be recalcitrant, so I was just going to avoid him.

It's amazing how, once I decided to stop responding, someone ELSE implied violence on my behalf. Perhaps I need to work on my reputation...

Naw.

SiBill · Post by **SiBill** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:44 am

I think Alan Moore's crystal ball was a little murky. He thought Cheney would be president when he wrote it

Moore ran with George Orwell's concept and it is amazing how prophetic they both were. Big Brother IS watching. BTW - has anyone here actually ever seen Alan Moore. I have only (ever) seen that one Charles Manson lookalike photo. Does he actually exist or is it a nom de plume and psuedo character? Seriously.

Of course he claims to hate DC for "stealing" his book - but yet started ABC with them. How confusing is he?

I suspect ZWH can enlighten me/us. Please help me out my learned brethren.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:12 pm

Byrneout wrote:
myron wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.
Doesn't the overall stupidity of some people just AMAZE you? It certainly does me...
It's phenomenal. I got into a brief discussion of this very debate at my LCS last week. I was calm and rational, and explained how hard it would be for a British man, twenty years ago, to write a scathing critique of the Bush Administration.

His response? "You're an *SKREE* idiot if you can't see it. A liberal idiot!"

The LCS owner looked at me, lips tightly closed, refusing to respond. I turned my head, and just slowly started walking away, ignoring whatever the guy was saying at that point. The LCS owner then looked at the other guy, and said:

"If I were you, I'd leave. Ric used to work here, so I probably wouldn't ban him for kicking your *SKREE* in my store."

The guy walked out in a huff, knowing that although he outweighed me by a good 100 pounds, I'd still get the better of him. Hell, I'm certain that a particularly strong toddler would have stood a good chance against this fellow, but eh, the guy wasn't going to be recalcitrant, so I was just going to avoid him.

It's amazing how, once I decided to stop responding, someone ELSE implied violence on my behalf. Perhaps I need to work on my reputation...

Naw.

Roeper addressed this issue in an article this week or last. Look it up, he was right on.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:56 pm

Byrneout wrote:Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all .

No, it's Anti-Thatcher propaganda....

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:59 pm

Byrneout wrote:
myron wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Just so long as I don't have to hear one more idiot go "this movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda", I intend to see it this Sunday.

And if so much as one person says that in the theater... it will *not* be pretty. At all.
Doesn't the overall stupidity of some people just AMAZE you? It certainly does me...
It's phenomenal. I got into a brief discussion of this very debate at my LCS last week. I was calm and rational, and explained how hard it would be for a British man, twenty years ago, to write a scathing critique of the Bush Administration.

Oh come on....that's not how arguments are supposed to be: rational, reasonable, using facts to support the argument?

Come on, you know better than that!

His response? "You're an *SKREE* idiot if you can't see it. A liberal idiot!"

Hehehehehe....that's just when you have your jaw dropped in amazement at the sheer irrationalness of those on the extreme left and right.

The LCS owner looked at me, lips tightly closed, refusing to respond. I turned my head, and just slowly started walking away, ignoring whatever the guy was saying at that point. The LCS owner then looked at the other guy, and said:

"If I were you, I'd leave. Ric used to work here, so I probably wouldn't ban him for kicking your *SKREE* in my store."

The guy walked out in a huff, knowing that although he outweighed me by a good 100 pounds, I'd still get the better of him. Hell, I'm certain that a particularly strong toddler would have stood a good chance against this fellow, but eh, the guy wasn't going to be recalcitrant, so I was just going to avoid him.

It's amazing how, once I decided to stop responding, someone ELSE implied violence on my behalf. Perhaps I need to work on my reputation...

Naw.

HE outweighed YOU by 100 pounds???

YOWZA!

That's one SUPAH FATTTTTT comic book guy!

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:14 pm

SiBill wrote:I think Alan Moore's crystal ball was a little murky. He thought Cheney would be president when he wrote it Moore ran with George Orwell's concept and it is amazing how prophetic they both were. Big Brother IS watching. BTW - has anyone here actually ever seen Alan Moore. I have only (ever) seen that one Charles Manson lookalike photo. Does he actually exist or is it a nom de plume and psuedo character? Seriously. Of course he claims to hate DC for "stealing" his book - but yet started ABC with them. How confusing is he?

I suspect ZWH can enlighten me/us. Please help me out my learned brethren.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:02 pm

This movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda!!

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:17 pm

Heath wrote:This movie is nothing but anti-Bush propoganda!!

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:20 pm

muzzsucker wrote:I'm so excited to see this movie. I'm going to watch it first thing Friday. I've heard really great things. Anyone else excited?

By the way....nice reference in the thread title.

(just so you think no one caught it.

)

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:42 pm

Seriously though, the producers may be using this story as anti-Bush propoganda, but that doesn't mean it is and it doesn't lessen my anticipation for it. I loved the comic and I have high hopes for the film. (But, I never manage to make it to the theatre, so I'll probably see it a year or two after it is released on DVD. I still haven't seen Sin City, for crying out loud, and only recently saw Hellboy!!)

The theme is universal. "People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Government should be afraid of the people." I read an interview with Natalie Portman and she mentioned Joel Silver talking to a reporter from South Korea who was convinced the movie was about North Korea. Some people - on either end of the political spectrum - will be convinced it's about Bush. Some people are just a little insane too.

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:42 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Oh come on....that's not how arguments are supposed to be: rational, reasonable, using facts to support the argument?

Come on, you know better than that!

I know, I know. I should have just yelled "You a dog!" at him.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Hehehehehe....that's just when you have your jaw dropped in amazement at the sheer irrationalness of those on the extreme left and right.

Exactly. He had also mentioned that he knew The Matrix was anti-Bush, and that the Brothers W were out to get Bush.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:HE outweighed YOU by 100 pounds???

YOWZA!

That's one SUPAH FATTTTTT comic book guy!

Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

The difference is that I *know* I can lift a 350 lb. man over my head without their help. I don't think he could reciprocate on me.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:53 pm

Heath wrote:Seriously though, the producers may be using this story as anti-Bush propoganda, but that doesn't mean it is and it doesn't lessen my anticipation for it. I loved the comic and I have high hopes for the film. (But, I never manage to make it to the theatre, so I'll probably see it a year or two after it is released on DVD. I still haven't seen Sin City, for crying out loud, and only recently saw Hellboy!!)

The theme is universal. "People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Government should be afraid of the people." I read an interview with Natalie Portman and she mentioned Joel Silver talking to a reporter from South Korea who was convinced the movie was about North Korea. Some people - on either end of the political spectrum - will be convinced it's about Bush. Some people are just a little insane too.

Good point, Moore is a damn fine writer and he hit a "universal" point with V for Vendetta. When someone's looking for something to bolster their own viewpoint or agenda, no amount of context will stop them.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:54 pm

Byrneout wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Oh come on....that's not how arguments are supposed to be: rational, reasonable, using facts to support the argument?

Come on, you know better than that!
I know, I know. I should have just yelled "You a dog!" at him.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Hehehehehe....that's just when you have your jaw dropped in amazement at the sheer irrationalness of those on the extreme left and right.
Exactly. He had also mentioned that he knew The Matrix was anti-Bush, and that the Brothers W were out to get Bush.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:HE outweighed YOU by 100 pounds???

YOWZA!

That's one SUPAH FATTTTTT comic book guy!
Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

The difference is that I *know* I can lift a 350 lb. man over my head without their help. I don't think he could reciprocate on me.

Dude, next time you see him, pile-driver him and see how many seconds he continues to jiggle.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:55 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Byrneout wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Oh come on....that's not how arguments are supposed to be: rational, reasonable, using facts to support the argument?

Come on, you know better than that!
I know, I know. I should have just yelled "You a dog!" at him.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Hehehehehe....that's just when you have your jaw dropped in amazement at the sheer irrationalness of those on the extreme left and right.
Exactly. He had also mentioned that he knew The Matrix was anti-Bush, and that the Brothers W were out to get Bush.

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:HE outweighed YOU by 100 pounds???

YOWZA!

That's one SUPAH FATTTTTT comic book guy!
Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

The difference is that I *know* I can lift a 350 lb. man over my head without their help. I don't think he could reciprocate on me.
Dude, next time you see him, pile-driver him and see how many seconds he continues to jiggle.

I don't know what the line might be on that, but I'll take the over.

-slym

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:58 pm

Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:01 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.

We must have looked at vastly different pictures.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:03 pm

Technique wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.
We must have looked at vastly different pictures.

Really? That one with Stone Cold is the most recent one I remember.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:41 pm

You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.

-slym

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:53 pm

slym2none wrote:You didn't see the video where he was wearing the VALIANT tee? I'da guess 235 or so looking at that.

-slym

I forgot to watch it. I'll have go and take a look at him in action.

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.

I'm... flattered.

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Technique wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.
We must have looked at vastly different pictures.

Hell, I'm trying to figure out which ones myself...

Byrneout · Post by **Byrneout** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:02 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Technique wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
Byrneout wrote:Yes, he was. I currently weight in at 255lbs (this is after dieting strictly for about three months to get down from my craptacular former weight of 312lbs) and he still easily had 350 on him.

Wow, 312? From some of the pictures you've posted I would not have guessed that. Even 255 seems like it would be a bit much. I would have guessed maybe 200 at the max.
We must have looked at vastly different pictures.
Really? That one with Stone Cold is the most recent one I remember.

Those are actually OLD... like '99 or so. I just hadn't found them until recently.

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