DC Pursued Gold Key characters...

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:27 pm

Our disucssions earlier regarding Impact Comics has caused me to try to put together the Universe as cheaply as I can.
As I was on the internet looking for Impact stuff, I came across this article from Newsarama. It's kind of ironic that the Impact discussion originated on this board:

Because of the time it would take to build the universe from scratch, the team started to scour older universes that had not seen print for quite a few years. The Gold Key characters, properties like Magnus, Turok, and Doctor Solar, were briefly looked at until DC began to eye the characters from the defunct Tower Comics line. The Tower Comics line, released in the sixties, held the stable of such characters like the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents, Dynamo, and Mentor. As DC pursued the property they found the characters deeply entrenched in ownership disputes and, because of this, unavailable to be acquired. Unable to clear the legal hurdles with the Tower characters, Gold and his staff eyed another superhero universe: The MLJ Superheroes.

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:19 pm

impact rocked...the black hood and the comet were fantastic.

mike parobeck's work on the fly was stunning.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:10 am

cinlach@aol.com wrote:impact rocked...the black hood and the comet were fantastic.

mike parobeck's work on the fly was stunning.

Its a shame we never got see the second phase stuff published.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:34 am

Magnus, Solar, Turok, done by DC?

OK, Jim Lee could draw any of them and it would rock, I am not ashamed to say it. Tim Truman writing Turok... B.K. Vaughn on Solar..... hmm, start chunking out ideas, folks!

(Sorry if I de-rail your thread, John!)

-slym

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:26 am

slym2none wrote:Magnus, Solar, Turok, done by DC?

OK, Jim Lee could draw any of them and it would rock, I am not ashamed to say it. Tim Truman writing Turok... B.K. Vaughn on Solar..... hmm, start chunking out ideas, folks!

(Sorry if I de-rail your thread, John!)

-slym

Don't know about Jim Lee drawing Solar - I sense he would end up a bit too bulky. Plus this was before !mpact, so it would have been different artists at DC at the time - maybe Tom Lyle would have done Solar. Funnily enough Rags Morales did some work for DC and !mpact in particular - so would he have ended up on Turok that way? I sense a cool 'What if' game is potentially here.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:19 pm

That would have been interesting. Unfortunately, DC probably would kill off Magnus with Doomsday and cripple Turok with Bane resulting in Solar having a nervous breakdown and killing off a bunch of short green guys

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:48 am

Second_Death wrote:That would have been interesting. Unfortunately, DC probably would kill off Magnus with Doomsday and cripple Turok with Bane resulting in Solar having a nervous breakdown and killing off a bunch of short green guys

You want to see Turok vs. Bane?

You got it!

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:25 am

Second_Death wrote:That would have been interesting. Unfortunately, DC probably would kill off Magnus with Doomsday and cripple Turok with Bane resulting in Solar having a nervous breakdown and killing off a bunch of short green guys

It was a bad time for the big two in the early to mid nineties wasn't it. And not in an interesting character exploration way. Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen/Knightfall. Oh dear. Marvel were just as bad crippling Cap and Fall from Grace serving only to stick Daredevil in a new costume (although I liked the rationale behind his costume).

A bad time best overlooked.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:23 am

leonmallett wrote:
Second_Death wrote:That would have been interesting. Unfortunately, DC probably would kill off Magnus with Doomsday and cripple Turok with Bane resulting in Solar having a nervous breakdown and killing off a bunch of short green guys
It was a bad time for the big two in the early to mid nineties wasn't it. And not in an interesting character exploration way. Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen/Knightfall. Oh dear. Marvel were just as bad crippling Cap and Fall from Grace serving only to stick Daredevil in a new costume (although I liked the rationale behind his costume).

A bad time best overlooked.

Got to agree with that. Urrrgh! Fall from grace...looking at the art was like coming off bad acid

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:52 am

Turok and Green Arrow team up?!?!

Solar and Shazam! ?!?!?!

Magnus and the GL Corps of the future?!?!

I MIGHT.

MIGHT

have to start buying DC again.

I SAID MIGHT

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:42 am

Unblessed wrote:Turok and Green Arrow team up?!?!
Solar and Shazam! ?!?!?!

Magnus and the GL Corps of the future?!?!

I MIGHT.

MIGHT

have to start buying DC again.

I SAID MIGHT

Had they (DC) gone the Gold Key rather than MLJ route then it could have been interesting, but surely we would not have ended up with anything like VALIANT, or indeed VALIANT period (I'm substituting period for the British full-stop in a conscious hands across the water effort!). But then instead of the GK3 (Magnus/Turok/Solar - I'm trying to work up GK3 as a shorthand!), would we have had the Fly and the Comet (and maybe later the Black Hood or other MLJ characters) as the founding icons of the VH 1 universe (except that Archie probably would not have aggreed to it)....

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:02 pm

leonmallett wrote:...or indeed VALIANT period (I'm substituting period for the British full-stop in a conscious hands across the water effort!)

Wait... you say "full-stop" instead of "period" to emphasize finality? Interesting.....

-slym

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:09 pm

slym2none wrote:
leonmallett wrote:...or indeed VALIANT period (I'm substituting period for the British full-stop in a conscious hands across the water effort!)
Wait... you say "full-stop" instead of "period" to emphasize finality? Interesting.....

-slym

yeah it is weird, but it is the language and I love its idiosyncracies! But the little dot at the end of the sentence is a full-stop to most people in the UK. Now if we can just get you to return the "u" to its righful place in color/valor etc.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:35 pm

leonmallett wrote:
slym2none wrote:
leonmallett wrote:...or indeed VALIANT period (I'm substituting period for the British full-stop in a conscious hands across the water effort!)
Wait... you say "full-stop" instead of "period" to emphasize finality? Interesting.....

-slym
yeah it is weird, but it is the language and I love its idiosyncracies! But the little dot at the end of the sentence is a full-stop to most people in the UK. Now if we can just get you to return the "u" to its righful place in color/valor etc.

Don't look at me - I have been trying since middle-school!

-slym (always spells it "neighbour" and "colour," etc.)

SiBill · Post by **SiBill** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:12 pm

leonmallett wrote:
slym2none wrote:
leonmallett wrote:...or indeed VALIANT period (I'm substituting period for the British full-stop in a conscious hands across the water effort!)
Wait... you say "full-stop" instead of "period" to emphasize finality? Interesting.....

-slym
yeah it is weird, but it is the language and I love its idiosyncracies! But the little dot at the end of the sentence is a full-stop to most people in the UK. Now if we can just get you to return the "u" to its righful place in color/valor etc.

Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc).

BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:25 pm

SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.

You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:09 pm

leonmallett wrote:
SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.
You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.

Also don't Americans like to say "take" a bath instead of "have" a bath?

"Take" a bath, where are you "taking" it?

On the flip side, British people watch soccer zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:55 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.
You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.
Also don't Americans like to say "take" a bath instead of "have" a bath?

"Take" a bath, where are you "taking" it?

We also "take" a Deathmate at least once a day too.

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:05 pm

leonmallett wrote:
SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.
You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.

"Zed" is how the French pronouce the letter Z.

Go ahead an be like them. I shall not stop you.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:22 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.
You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.
Also don't Americans like to say "take" a bath instead of "have" a bath?

"Take" a bath, where are you "taking" it?

We also "take" a Deathmate at least once a day too.

I took my deathmate to the bin years ago. blech!

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:22 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
SiBill wrote:
Americans have no time for U and me (drop U from color etc. and me from programme etc). BTW - My pet British peeve is zed instead of Zee for the letter Z.
You're right on zed, but if I say zee it sounds so wrong.
Also don't Americans like to say "take" a bath instead of "have" a bath?

"Take" a bath, where are you "taking" it?

On the flip side, British people watch soccer zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

And here in the south we have a strange use for the word "fixing." We would say, "I'm fixing to take a shower." (Or, written with an accent, "Ahm fixin' tuh take a shire.") Somehow "fixing to" replaces "going to" or "about to."

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:02 am

I fixed my dog. She wasn't really broken, but we fixed her ahead of time so that she wouldn't be broken later.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:44 am

When I order food at restaurants, or picking out something in general, I say "I'll take that..." or "I'll take the NY Strip" instead of "I'll have..."

It's something I picked up from a foreign-born beauty I once spent time with. End result of that? Let me say, there is no Blair Witch, but there is one in Havre de Grace, Maryland.

-slym (Blair Witch was supposed to haunt Burkittsville, MD)

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:50 am

slym2none wrote:When I order food at restaurants, or picking out something in general, I say "I'll take that..." or "I'll take the NY Strip" instead of "I'll have..."

It's something I picked up from a foreign-born beauty I once spent time with. End result of that? Let me say, there is no Blair Witch, but there is one in Havre de Grace, Maryland.

-slym (Blair Witch was supposed to haunt Burkittsville, MD)

No way you're going to finish the story there? I'm sure we all want to hear more...

Take it away Slym...

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:53 am

cobra_commander wrote:
On the flip side, British people watch soccer zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

To call football 'soccer' is one thing. To indicate it is sleep-inducing is another. That's fightin' talk my friend!