Magnus Coupon Variations

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:59 pm

Issues #3, 4, 5, and 6 are like this, and issues #7 and 8 have red lettering and grey lettering versions.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:35 pm

Finally, confirmation of the B+W uncut sheet. I know I saw a B+W uncut sheet back in the day, but had really been thinking I must have had it confused with the poster since one has not surfaced. Now it's clear there is a B&W version of these cards.

Thanks for posting. Of course, now I need a B&W uncut sheet.....

edit: For the record - I had it backwards. The color sheet is what I do nat have. I thought that one was uncommon.

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:49 pm

awesome catch jedi.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:17 pm

never really noticed that before.....

Nice catch Jedi...

-Brian

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:36 pm

ckb wrote:Finally, confirmation of the B+W uncut sheet. I know I saw a B+W uncut sheet back in the day, but had really been thinking I must have had it confused with the poster since one has not surfaced. Now it's clear there is a B&W version of these cards.

Thanks for posting. Of course, now I need a B&W uncut sheet.....

I don't believe there was a black & white uncut sheet. I have the uncut version where the Magnus box is black (like the book on the left in Jedi's pic), but the cards are all still in color. The red box Magnus version I assumed was just for the poster. Apparently they have red box uncut card sheets as well? Thanks for the info Jedi!

speedracex · Post by **speedracex** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:40 pm

hmmm ill have to check my books

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:28 pm

Zero wrote:
ckb wrote:Finally, confirmation of the B+W uncut sheet. I know I saw a B+W uncut sheet back in the day, but had really been thinking I must have had it confused with the poster since one has not surfaced. Now it's clear there is a B&W version of these cards.

Thanks for posting. Of course, now I need a B&W uncut sheet.....

I don't believe there was a black & white uncut sheet. I have the uncut version where the Magnus box is black (like the book on the left in Jedi's pic), but the cards are all still in color. The red box Magnus version I assumed was just for the poster. Apparently they have red box uncut card sheets as well? Thanks for the info Jedi!

This is what I'm thinking as well. My uncut sheet is just how you described and my poster of the uncut sheet has the red magnus logo. If they printed cards for the comic in red it would stand to reason that they may have ran off a few similar uncut red logo versions. That's only speculation though cause I've never heard of anyone laying claim to having one yet.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:42 pm

So did anyone else know of this variation?

dino · Post by **dino** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:55 pm

jedimarley wrote:So did anyone else know of this variation?

Not me. Great find

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:34 pm

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that the red vs black was discussed a while ago.

What do you guys mean by "uncut sheet"? What would that look like? Just the sheets that weren't put into the comics?

dino · Post by **dino** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:36 pm

400yrs wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that the red vs black was discussed a while ago.

What do you guys mean by "uncut sheet"? What would that look like? Just the sheets that weren't put into the comics?

http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/va ... .asp?id=20
http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/va ... .asp?id=10

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:44 am

Great catch Jedi. Will have to check mine as well.

was about to post a question re the uncut sheets until dino came to the rescue (

). Was not aware that the sheets existed. Dayum, something else to go after!!!!!

Thanks for the info guys

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:31 pm

OK. I went through all my Magnus comics with the coupon...

Now, I have 10 of each (1-8) and it looks like the black version is the rare version.

So out of 80 books 10 were black the rest were red.

Any thoughts on why the change from black to red...Or was it a red to black change.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:32 pm

jedimarley wrote:OK. I went through all my Magnus comics with the coupon...

Now, I have 10 of each (1-8) and it looks like the black version is the rare version.

So out of 80 books 10 were black the rest were red.

Any thoughts on why the change from black to red...Or was it a red to black change.

you have 10 sets of Mag #1-8

cool!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:32 pm

jedimarley wrote:OK. I went through all my Magnus comics with the coupon...

Now, I have 10 of each (1-8) and it looks like the black version is the rare version.

So out of 80 books 10 were black the rest were red.

Any thoughts on why the change from black to red...Or was it a red to black change.

I think they ran out of red ink.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:01 pm

Magnus 3, 20 copies
Black = 6 copies
Red = 14 copies

Magnus 4, 40 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 5, 14 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 6, 26 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 7, 33 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 8, 34 copies
Black =
Red =

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:23 pm

Now, don't forget to check issues #1 and 2.

The upper part of the building is red in some issues and black in others.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:28 pm

jedimarley wrote:Now, don't forget to check issues #1 and 2.

The upper part of the building is red in some issues and black in others.

You gonna post a picture of them?

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:31 pm

x-omatic wrote:
jedimarley wrote:Now, don't forget to check issues #1 and 2.

The upper part of the building is red in some issues and black in others.
You gonna post a picture of them?

All of my issues are red. But if you look at the uncut B/W sheet it's grey.

So..could their be a grey version of issues #1 and 2??

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:51 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Zero wrote:
ckb wrote:Finally, confirmation of the B+W uncut sheet. I know I saw a B+W uncut sheet back in the day, but had really been thinking I must have had it confused with the poster since one has not surfaced. Now it's clear there is a B&W version of these cards.

Thanks for posting. Of course, now I need a B&W uncut sheet.....

I don't believe there was a black & white uncut sheet. I have the uncut version where the Magnus box is black (like the book on the left in Jedi's pic), but the cards are all still in color. The red box Magnus version I assumed was just for the poster. Apparently they have red box uncut card sheets as well? Thanks for the info Jedi!

This is what I'm thinking as well. My uncut sheet is just how you described and my poster of the uncut sheet has the red magnus logo. If they printed cards for the comic in red it would stand to reason that they may have ran off a few similar uncut red logo versions. That's only speculation though cause I've never heard of anyone laying claim to having one yet.

This is what I meant. I know the cards aren't in B&W, just the MRF logo. You have one of these, Zero?????

I had it backwards, though, my sheet is B&W... I need a color one...

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:01 pm

jedimarley wrote:OK. I went through all my Magnus comics with the coupon...

Now, I have 10 of each (1-8) and it looks like the black version is the rare version.

So out of 80 books 10 were black the rest were red.

Any thoughts on why the change from black to red...Or was it a red to black change.

The uncut sheet that looks like the poster is rare in my view. Again, I've only seen like 10 uncut sheets, and only one looked like the poster. Now that could be coincidence. Jedi, are you sure about your count?? I see that you can tell from any of the issues, since there is red on the border areas as well. (Top of the building at the top edge, words at the bottom edge.)

Here's my uncut sheet:

Here's my poster:

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:10 pm

x-omatic wrote:Magnus 3, 20 copies
Black = 6 copies
Red = 14 copies

Magnus 4, 40 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 5, 14 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 6, 26 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 7, 33 copies
Black =
Red =

Magnus 8, 34 copies
Black =
Red =

<gasping for breath>.......

cool...

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:54 pm

jedimarley wrote:So did anyone else know of this variation?

I had no clue. I'm surprised it hadn't been caught before.

Here's what I have:

Magnus 3, 9 copies
Black = 3 copies
Red = 6 copies

Magnus 4, 6 copies
Black = 2 copies
Red = 4 copies

Magnus 5, 6 copies
Black = 0 copies
Red = 6 copies

Magnus 6, 4 copies
Black = 0 copies
Red = 4 copies

Magnus 7, 8 copies
Black = 3 copies
Red = 5 copies

Magnus 8, 4 copies
Black = 3 copies
Red = 1 copies

DAN

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:16 am

ckb wrote:
jedimarley wrote:OK. I went through all my Magnus comics with the coupon...

Now, I have 10 of each (1-8) and it looks like the black version is the rare version.

So out of 80 books 10 were black the rest were red.

Any thoughts on why the change from black to red...Or was it a red to black change.
The uncut sheet that looks like the poster is rare in my view. Again, I've only seen like 10 uncut sheets, and only one looked like the poster. Now that could be coincidence. Jedi, are you sure about your count?? I see that you can tell from any of the issues, since there is red on the border areas as well. (Top of the building at the top edge, words at the bottom edge.)

Here's my uncut sheet:

Here's my poster:

My uncut sheets & posters look like yours. I had never heard of a red box uncut sheet, but they must have made some by the looks of the book coupons. I need to dig my copies out & check them. ~Pete

greg · Post by **greg** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:48 am

Great find, Jedi!

Hmm...

How about this for an explanation... (LITERALLY JUST MAKING IT UP AS WE GO)

Maybe the original order for the Magnus cards was for the RED version, based upon expected comic sales.

Once it became obvious that they would need MORE cards (to put in the comics),
the second cardsheet order was for the BLACK version, to make up the difference.

There were leftover sheets of the BLACK uncut cards,
but no leftover sheets of the RED uncut cards because
the RED card sheets were used first in the comics,
and the BLACK sheets were not all used.

Because there were extras of the BLACK uncut sheets, they decided to sell some.

BLACK cards are "rarer" in the comics because fewer BLACK cards
were needed to make up the difference between the RED initial order
and the actual comic book orders.

The POSTER is RED because that was the original version of the cards,
and the plan for the poster likely followed the plan for the cardsheets.
If the poster had been reprinted, it likely would have been BLACK.