Good afternnon everyone

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Here's another article on the impact of "organic" farming and the use of "organic" pesticides:

http://www.cgfi.org/publications/organi ... ee_farming

Clearly, in the scenario where ALL US farming were to go organic, the impact of organic pesticides would have a demonstrably detrimental effect on the environment...they very thing "organic" proponents are claiming they want the opposite of!

[Elveen]

Z, I didn't think you were lumping me in with the lamo-hippy-morons... or whatever, (and I know I am not one of them anyway.... but I see them all the time where I shop...), but Zeph. we are good.

In my situaiton we need to eat organic foods, (and there are various other things that my wife [which of course, now means me] can not, or should not eat, i.e. beef. Although every few weeks, when she is feeling good, we go to In-and-Out and get her a cheesburger, her face goes numb afterwards, but damm, you still gotta live.... )


I can tell you from personal experience (personally talking to growers, and nutritionists) that the "organic" foods are: first, often not really "organic", and that some foods that qualify as "organic" are not labled as "organic", mostly because that grower does not have the $$$ to jump through the govt. hoops to get the "cert. organic" lables.


So yes, like most everything else in this world..... with "organic" foods you don't always get what you'd expect.

And us going organic (almost a year now, and we are not fully organic about 85-90%, and go out to eat every so often), was just a part of the dietary changes we have undertaken. We have revamped our entire food consumption.

There are many bad things that they put into food.

You should only eat Nitrate-free meats (especially lunch meats and hot dogs)

Avoide High fructose corn syrup, .......


Basically we use whole wheat flour, prue brown cane sugar, no artifical coloring, dairy products from cows not treated with hormones, blah...blah...blah....


For ex.

Because I had a fit about having nothing to drink, my wife has started to buy me natural soda. Wild Oats Natural Cherry Vanilla Soda, Here are the ingredients:

filtered carbonated water, pure cane sugar (a non-gmo sweetner)[genetically modified], natural cherry vanilla flavor, citric acid



We just try to eat all foods in their purest form, with nothing added. It is working for us, and really for me, that's all that matters.


A BTW, my pancakes are yummy!

[Chiclo]

Clearly ZWH doubts the Silent Spring.

That's ok, Rachel Carson was a loon and a half.

[jedimarley]

So. Why is this in the Events - Comic Conventions section???

Must be a 'lamo-hippy-moron' thing.

Damn hippies are taking over the site!

[Elveen]

So. Why is this in the Events - Comic Conventions section???

Must be a 'lamo-hippy-moron' thing.

Damn hippies are taking over the site!

... slowly raising hand......

(wanted it to be in everything else.....)

[jedimarley]

Hippies.

[cobra_commander]

Is IHOP still popular in the States?

[chainnball]

I got your dangling participle...right here..


P.S. can these pancakes be overnighted?

[Elveen]

I got your dangling participle...right here..


P.S. can these pancakes be overnighted?

yes, and I used bubble wrap.....


What number do you want?

[Rufusharley]

Is IHOP still popular in the States?

Yes.

[chainnball]

I got your dangling participle...right here..


P.S. can these pancakes be overnighted?

yes, and I used bubble wrap.....


What number do you want?

lol, three...

[siren3-4]

Um... I thought all food was organic.

At least we learned about that sort of thing in organic chemistry.

Hey...carbon monoxide is organic....

Mmmmm...you can REALLY taste the fumes!

Mmmm... sorta.

"Organic" usually means compounds made up of chains of hydrocarbons and other things. Methane is generally considered the simplest organic compound, and Carbon monoxide is much simpler.

Mmmm...not sorta:

or·gan·ic Pronunciation[awr-gan-ik] Pr–adjective 1. noting or pertaining to a class of chemical compounds that formerly comprised only those existing in or derived from plants or animals, but that now includes all other compounds of carbon.

Anything containing the element Carbon (C) is now classified as "organic."

Therefore..carbon monoxide is organic.

Most folks think that "organic" means "natural"....it doesn't. They've been dumbed down by hippie advertising.

Most folks also think "all natural" means "good for you."

Arsenic is 100% all natural. It will also kill you.

Most nightshades are poisonous....also 100% all natural.

The venom of the Black Mamba...also 100% all natural....from a single bite can kill 20-40 grown men.

What does this have to do with organic...? Well, not much, except the common misconceptions that "environmentally sound" hucksters have convinced the foolish public of.



Dangling participles RULE!

We eat organic foods becuase my wife has an autoimmune disease, and all the pestisides and chemicals and crap they put on the food is bad for her on a cellular level.

Her immune system is destroying her body. It is workning against her, and right now there is really noithing we can do about it.

We have seen many, many doctors (like at least one a week) and nutritionists, a bunch of other "-ists" that I really don't know what they do. Then medicines make her sick and cause us to have emergency room visits. She has been on all kinds of pills and drips and chemo and crap and more crap, basically...... it's just posion (for her, if it's working for you or someone you love, feel lucky). So basically, right now, she is on very little medication. Her dr. has told us, basically in tears, that she is the only person that he has not been able to help. She already has bone loss and joint desinagration and various other wonderful things.

Chainging our diet is one of the only things that helps.

Now the organic" food is hard to find (at times) and always VERY expensive. But.......

There has been a noticable change. Just know that all the crap the put into and on the food, to make it bigger and last longer in your pantry, your body has to work to process all of it.

Think about it..... how long should bread stay in your pantry without molding?

We have to go and shop at least twice a week (which is a hassle), but it is working. We have totally changed our diet. And believe it or not, the organic food does taste better, and it is better for you.


Sorry to rant.

Really sorry to hear that.

I hope what you guys are doing keeps paying off with her better health.

Elveen,

You family is in our thoughts and prayers. I hope things get better

[Elveen]

thanks 3-4 (and 0), we'll be ok.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

So. Why is this in the Events - Comic Conventions section???

Must be a 'lamo-hippy-moron' thing.

Damn hippies are taking over the site!

Hippie.