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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_ ... ics_online

Call me old school, but NO WAY am i going to do this!!! I reject the comics on DVD-ROM and I reject this. The publishers should concentrate on omnibus' in lieu of this

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Fanboy375 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_ ... ics_online

Call me old school, but NO WAY am i going to do this!!! I reject the comics on DVD-ROM and I reject this. The publishers should concentrate on omnibus' in lieu of this
This quote to me explains why:
Even as their creations -- from Iron Man to Wonder Woman -- become increasingly visible in pop culture through new movies and video games, old-school comics publishers rely primarily on specialized, out-of-the-way comic shops for distribution of their bread-and-butter product.

"You don't have that spinner rack of comic books sitting in the local five-and-dime any more," said Dan Buckley, president of Marvel Publishing. "We don't have our product intersecting kids in their lifestyle space as much as we used to."

Translate "kids' lifestyle space" into plain English and you get "the Internet." Marvel's two most prominent competitors currently offer online teasers designed to drive the sales of comics or book collections.

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Like it or not, comics on the internet are the future and if the industry is going to survive they have to give it as much attention as the comics on paper.

I completely expected this and am somewhat disappointed that the comics would not be downloadable. I don't see the difference in showing it online constantly and letting people download them. All they're going to do is take up bandwidth and make it more difficult for the comics to be read freely.

At least, they what I believe.

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if i was a retailer I would be *SQUEE*!!!

Before, during, and after a movie comes out, fans flock to comic stores to buy older issues. Most NEW collectors are not gonna shell out big bucks for Ghost Rider 1, 30 days of night #1, etc, when they can download them online.

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Fanboy375 wrote:if i was a retailer I would be *SQUEE*!!!

Before, during, and after a movie comes out, fans flock to comic stores to buy older issues. Most NEW collectors are not gonna shell out big bucks for Ghost Rider 1, 30 days of night #1, etc, when they can download them online.
Not necessarily. Remember, Digital comics are simply for fans. People who want to read the books but don't want to pay higher prices. The idea is exactly the same as the trade paperback except in a different format. Less costly reprints for the non-collector to enjoy.

I actually believe the someone reading the digital copy would probably prefer the real deal over the digital any day for the most part. Especially if it was a good issue. It will make previewing a copy before buying a lot easier for future collectors.

This is simply a cheap way to get the art form out there to the masses and make it more affordable as well.

Again though, that's just my opinion.

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Cyberstrike wrote:
Fanboy375 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_ ... ics_online

Call me old school, but NO WAY am i going to do this!!! I reject the comics on DVD-ROM and I reject this. The publishers should concentrate on omnibus' in lieu of this
This quote to me explains why:
Even as their creations -- from Iron Man to Wonder Woman -- become increasingly visible in pop culture through new movies and video games, old-school comics publishers rely primarily on specialized, out-of-the-way comic shops for distribution of their bread-and-butter product.

"You don't have that spinner rack of comic books sitting in the local five-and-dime any more," said Dan Buckley, president of Marvel Publishing. "We don't have our product intersecting kids in their lifestyle space as much as we used to."

Translate "kids' lifestyle space" into plain English and you get "the Internet." Marvel's two most prominent competitors currently offer online teasers designed to drive the sales of comics or book collections.
I agree. That quote is a satisfactory answer as to "why". For many of us on this board, due too our age, our first exposure to new comics may very well have been a spinner rack at a grocery or bargain store. As my mom would grocery shop, I would browse through the comic rack. Sadly, this is no longer an option.

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steverino wrote:
Fanboy375 wrote:if i was a retailer I would be *SQUEE*!!!

Before, during, and after a movie comes out, fans flock to comic stores to buy older issues. Most NEW collectors are not gonna shell out big bucks for Ghost Rider 1, 30 days of night #1, etc, when they can download them online.
Not necessarily. Remember, Digital comics are simply for fans. People who want to read the books but don't want to pay higher prices. The idea is exactly the same as the trade paperback except in a different format. Less costly reprints for the non-collector to enjoy.

I actually believe the someone reading the digital copy would probably prefer the real deal over the digital any day for the most part. Especially if it was a good issue. It will make previewing a copy before buying a lot easier for future collectors.

This is simply a cheap way to get the art form out there to the masses and make it more affordable as well.

Again though, that's just my opinion.
Yeah, my opinion as well. Let's just hope that is how it plays out. :hope:

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Digital comics are not for us. We are not the market they are trying to attract. They are for young kids who do not read comics. Digital comics are the gateway drug to real comics or at least that is what the comic companies are hoping. The floppies aren't going anywhere....yet


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stone384 wrote:Digital comics are not for us. We are not the market they are trying to attract. They are for young kids who do not read comics. Digital comics are the gateway drug to real comics or at least that is what the comic companies are hoping. The floppies aren't going anywhere....yet


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:thumb: my take on it too

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Crossgen already tried this at a MUCH cheaper price and I don't recall it burning up the world. Don't know if subscriptions to view masses of comics is the way to go.

I may have gotten one online comic from Marvel to work in my whole life (they've been offering a lot of online comics for free for years now) so I'm not real anxious to start paying for them.

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Todd Luck wrote:Crossgen already tried this at a MUCH cheaper price and I don't recall it burning up the world. Don't know if subscriptions to view masses of comics is the way to go.

I may have gotten one online comic from Marvel to work in my whole life (they've been offering a lot of online comics for free for years now) so I'm not real anxious to start paying for them.
It was crossgen though...not the big 2...

kiddie sees spidey 3 on tv or dvd or ppv or whatever...runs over to computer and searches for the comic online...thinkaboutit :thumb:

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Marvel still probably won't put Prime on CD-ROMIX out there.

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I don't think individual comics will be effected, but this could mean the end of trade paperbacks since it'd be easier to find the issues online instead of searching for a hard copy of a tpb.

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doubt it....the tpb market is the money maker for the comic companies these days. The floppies are so expensive to make that a lot of times the tpb market is what keeps them afloat. tpb tend to be cheaper and more profitable.

and again, the digital comics as they are being promoted right now are not for existing comic book fans. They are a tactic to get kids to start reading comics by exposing them to comics in a medium they spend the most time with (computers). The hope is that it will eventually lead to new readers in the hard copy format. Basically an electronic spinner rack if you will


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Fanboy375 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_ ... ics_online

Call me old school, but NO WAY am i going to do this!!! I reject the comics on DVD-ROM and I reject this. The publishers should concentrate on omnibus' in lieu of this
I may be new at this but I agree with you. :thumb:

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To some degree I like this idea. $60 a year to read all the Marvel comics I want... not bad. Most of the stuff put out by Marvel is stuff I am interested in reading, but that I don't want to buy. This would let me read all I want pretty cheap.

Of course, I can also walk two blocks over to Border's and read most anything I want in trade paperback anyway, so maybe it's not worth it.

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myron wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:Crossgen already tried this at a MUCH cheaper price and I don't recall it burning up the world. Don't know if subscriptions to view masses of comics is the way to go.

I may have gotten one online comic from Marvel to work in my whole life (they've been offering a lot of online comics for free for years now) so I'm not real anxious to start paying for them.
It was crossgen though...not the big 2...

kiddie sees spidey 3 on tv or dvd or ppv or whatever...runs over to computer and searches for the comic online...thinkaboutit :thumb:
But would the first 100 issues of the book written over 40 years ago really appeal to the kids? Of course, Spidey holds up slightly better than some of the others. It's not like Fantastic Four where the U.S. Air Force launches a nuclear missle at the Human Torch over a major city only to have Reed Richards pluck it out of the sky bare handed (by stetching his arms all the way from the ground) and throws the missle into the ocean to explode "harmlessly." LOL You got to love those old comics.

I'm sure they've got other stuff on there. I just don't know if all that many people will care. Maybe they're getting get good reactions out of all the stuff they've put on the net. That stuff has got to work for somebody

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do peaple still buy usm 1 for 100 +
with a trade readily out yep
long as comics are considered collectables there will be peaple wanting a hard copy of anything they read to collect

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Ironically, I've been trying to get into Marvel's site for the last 15 minutes (it's nearly 11 am on Sunday morning) and it keeps telling me "This page cannot be displayed."

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Todd Luck wrote:Ironically, I've been trying to get into Marvel's site for the last 15 minutes (it's nearly 11 am on Sunday morning) and it keeps telling me "This page cannot be displayed."
lucky me I got right in. :D

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krazie14me wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:Ironically, I've been trying to get into Marvel's site for the last 15 minutes (it's nearly 11 am on Sunday morning) and it keeps telling me "This page cannot be displayed."
lucky me I got right in. :D
What?

I've been trying for close to two hours now. I've tried every varation of their address and every link to various parts of their site that I could find. I haven't gotten squat.

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maybe if your patient it will work for you .I got in again with no problem. :?

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krazie14me wrote:maybe if your patient it will work for you .I got in again with no problem. :?
Been trying all day and I still get the "This page cannot be displayed" message every single time. :?

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Todd Luck wrote:
krazie14me wrote:maybe if your patient it will work for you .I got in again with no problem. :?
Been trying all day and I still get the "This page cannot be displayed" message every single time. :?
There was a server crash after Marvel announced the digital comics subscription thing. The site is up and running now with a funny video called "Who To Blame part 1" about what happened on the site.

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Cyberstrike wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:
krazie14me wrote:maybe if your patient it will work for you .I got in again with no problem. :?
Been trying all day and I still get the "This page cannot be displayed" message every single time. :?
There was a server crash after Marvel announced the digital comics subscription thing. The site is up and running now with a funny video called "Who To Blame part 1" about what happened on the site.
Okay any explaination as to why it won't work for me today? I've tried it on two different user accounts on my desktop and also on my lap top.


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