VEI Ongoing

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:04 pm

While VEI is awaiting developments on the current situation, why couldn't they launch a new ongoing title with a new character or two? There are plenty of talented creators they could hire to create the book, and it could be done to fit into whatever point of Valiant continuity they plan to pick up at when they are able to get the relaunch going.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:20 pm

StarBrand wrote:While VEI is awaiting developments on the current situation, why couldn't they launch a new ongoing title with a new character or two? There are plenty of talented creators they could hire to create the book, and it could be done to fit into whatever point of Valiant continuity they plan to pick up at when they are able to get the relaunch going.

My guess is that until all the legal problems are taken care of, that they're not going to launch a new series.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:56 pm

I'd like to see a VALIANT comic done like Marvel's newuniversal.

Something in 2008 to test the waters.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:55 pm

I am sure they are going to produced another trade after XO.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:58 pm

That be a good move.

I'm proud of VEI for deciding to reprint the original comics instead of relying on the cliched tactic of rebooting their characters like DC and Marvel do to "keep them fresh and current".

I'm glad that they allowed someone like Aric to grow older and be closer to his 50's than his 30's.

If Indiana Jones can kick Russian butt at 58, Aric can still rule at 43

user1463 · Post by **user1463** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:39 pm

Hell, look at Bruce Wayne in Dark Knight Returns, Frank Castle in Punisher: The End and King Conan. I'd rather read about those guys than a teen-aged Wolverine any day.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:46 pm

X-Men Babies!!!

Wait, I was joking with that one, but I think they actually did it once.

user1463 · Post by **user1463** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:50 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:X-Men Babies!!!

Wait, I was joking with that one, but I think they actually did it once.

They did it more than once.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:53 pm

user1463 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:X-Men Babies!!!

Wait, I was joking with that one, but I think they actually did it once.
They did it more than once.

That's the kind of place where VH 2 would have inevitably taken the VALIANT Universe.

Let's be glad it didn't last...

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:08 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:I'd like to see a VALIANT comic done like Marvel's newuniversal.

Something in 2008 to test the waters.

That's a good idea. I'd like to see the waters tested also. I'm standing by ready to support VEI.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:54 pm

aaalllll aboard!

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:48 pm

I think it will be lots of new stuff after the legal issues are complete.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:09 pm

superman-prime wrote:I think it will be lots of new stuff after the legal issues are complete.

one can hope

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:58 am

tarheelmarine wrote:
superman-prime wrote:I think it will be lots of new stuff after the legal issues are complete.
one can hope

Yeah, it's just a matter of time.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:35 am

I would imagine that they need to figure out a way (I'm sure have figured out a way) to recoup their initial investment. If they'd wanted to publish original concepts, they could have done so for far less $$.

Most comic publishers are very open about the fact that the comics themselves aren't where the money comes from--it's from licensing. These origin reprints could be a great pitch for a movie or the like, as well as making as much $ as possible with the reprint itself.

I'm intrigued by their actions and plans to date. Let's hope slow and steady remains their way of doing business.

BoH

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:49 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:I would imagine that they need to figure out a way (I'm sure have figured out a way) to recoup their initial investment. If they'd wanted to publish original concepts, they could have done so for far less $$.

Most comic publishers are very open about the fact that the comics themselves aren't where the money comes from--it's from licensing. These origin reprints could be a great pitch for a movie or the like, as well as making as much $ as possible with the reprint itself.

I'm intrigued by their actions and plans to date. Let's hope slow and steady remains their way of doing business.

BoH

You make a good point as far as the licensing part. I wish we could've had the VEI concept without the VIP thing interfering. Frankly, I'm surprised no boycott has been organized against the suspected party behind VIP. If they're not VIP they could come out and say so after the boycott began.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:44 am

Who's the suspected party? (sorry, but I've got 3+ years of "lost" histroy to try to catch up on, and I haven't read all the conspiracies around VEI/VIP).

And while I'm firmly in the VEI corner, here, I view it as no different than the "Captain Marvel" character. I prefer the "Big Red Cheese" and don't much care for Mar-Vell. Is it annoying that so many people think my preferred character's name is "Shazam"? Absolutely. But the law is the law. So if I have to someday read about Bloodshot in a book called "Rising Spirit," or whatever, I'll be content knowing it's the real Bloodshot. Ditto tales about X-O Manowar in a book called "Dacia," or whatever (stretching there for a lame title, but I'm tired today. Help me out, MOTA!)

I think VIP might have hurt their case by including "Valiant" in their corporate name, as it looks like a way to deliberately "confuse" the issue. That's where I'm hanging my hope hat.

BoH

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:58 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:So if I have to someday read about Bloodshot in a book called "Rising Spirit," or whatever, I'll be content knowing it's the real Bloodshot. Ditto tales about X-O Manowar in a book called "Dacia," or whatever (stretching there for a lame title, but I'm tired today. Help me out, MOTA!)BoH

Well, to clarify, you don't have to worry about X-O Manowar, that name is safe. As for Bloodshot, I'm not sure, I thought it was safe because unlike the other TMs that one has the (R) next to it, but who knows anymore...

The ones that VIP went after are

Secret Weapons, Outcast, Rai and the Future Force, Deathmate, Quantum and Woody, Harbinger, PunX, Dr. Mirage, Eternal Warrior, Ninja, Bloodshot and The Visitor

(you know that if they went after Punx and Deathmate they were just scrapping the bottom of the barrell).

For all the background information you need to fill in those lost years, check out the following link

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=123728

Someone posted scans of all the VIP versions of the trademarks on this board, but I can't find it. Maybe someone else can direct you to them.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:12 am

Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:13 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?

Early on Dynamic Forces came to the forefront as a very likely possibility.

Other suggested names have ranged from Dynamite Entertainment to James Perlham.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:15 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?

PM me and I'll give you the Whole story....

-Brian

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:16 am

betterthanezra wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?
PM me and I'll give you the Whole story....

-Brian

I wanna know too

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:18 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?
PM me and I'll give you the Whole story....

-Brian
I wanna know too

Don't worry I'm coving the stuff you already know...

-Brian

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:19 am

betterthanezra wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Thanks, MOTA. Who's the suspected party behind VIP, though?
PM me and I'll give you the Whole story....

-Brian
I wanna know too
Don't worry I'm coving the stuff you already know...

-Brian

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:00 am

betterthanezra wrote: Don't worry I'm coving the stuff you already know...

-Brian

Wow. That's just messed up, if it's true. Thanks, Brotha Brian!

BoH

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