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Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:10 am

cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote:
Tim wrote: No, they're sanctioned by Cyclops. They're just a covert, black ops team that does the dirty work the regular X-Men don't want to do (like assassinations, eating babies, etc...)
funny thing is, I never would have guessed that Cyclops would have the gonads to sanction a hit. But I guess if you can sleep with one of your long time enemies, morals dont come into play any more lol
Anybody think that they are gonna reveal Cyclops to be a skrull?
It would explain alot! I think he is one.
I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?

No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:00 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote:
nutflush76 wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote: funny thing is, I never would have guessed that Cyclops would have the gonads to sanction a hit. But I guess if you can sleep with one of your long time enemies, morals dont come into play any more lol
Anybody think that they are gonna reveal Cyclops to be a skrull?
It would explain alot! I think he is one.
I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true

Wasn't sure *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:02 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote:
nutflush76 wrote: Anybody think that they are gonna reveal Cyclops to be a skrull?
It would explain alot! I think he is one.
I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?

Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:06 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote: It would explain alot! I think he is one.
I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?
Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .

Oh that would be TRULY, TRUE-LY lame....

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:09 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Eternalwarrior68 wrote:
nutflush76 wrote: Anybody think that they are gonna reveal Cyclops to be a skrull?
It would explain alot! I think he is one.
I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't sure *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?

I think that there are two possibilities:

1. Spider-Woman/Skrull queen are messing with Iron Man's head to keep him out of the picture.

Super cool possibility 2: Spider-Woman is actually Jessica Drew, escaped from the skrulls, found out that the queen had taken her place, and then takes HER place, so that Spider-Woman is herself, PRETENDING to be the skrull queen, and she is now testing Tony to be sure that he isn't a skrull.

I think it would be kinda lame, given everything in Civil War, if Stark was a skrull.

Bendis has said in teh past that Stark is definitely not a skrull, but at a con last weekend he said that he had lied a lot during the build up to Secret Invasion to misdirect people.

We'll see what the truth is eventually.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:16 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: I really hope he ISN'T a skrull, just because of all the changes that he has gone through lately. His character has changed a lot in the last few years, and I think it would be too easy to make him a skrull.

It would kinda be like making Tony Stark a skrull. It would be too easy, and too harmful towards the existing stories.

I hope I don't end up eating my words..
*possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?
Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .
Oh that would be TRULY, TRUE-LY lame....

Spider-man's not a skrull, but his webshooters are . . .

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:53 pm

Then after that we get one more day part 2

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:12 pm

Just read X-Force: Ain't No Dog.

Without a doubt the bloodiest Marvel comic I've ever read.

Wolverine was totally out of characterization, at least as far as he's supposed to be in X-Force. He doesn't want the rest of the team to go the path he has, to have their lives consumed with violence and more specifically killing and murder. That's pretty much what Yost and Co., have tried to establish in the 4 issues so far; his role as mentor.

Then in this one-shot all that is blown to sh!t. Wolverine kills, kills and kills. Delights in it. Enjoys it. Wise-cracks about it.

Disgusting, and not the character I love.

Eternalwarrior68 · Post by **Eternalwarrior68** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:19 pm

Tim wrote:Just read X-Force: Ain't No Dog.

Without a doubt the bloodiest Marvel comic I've ever read.

Wolverine was totally out of characterization, at least as far as he's supposed to be in X-Force. He doesn't want the rest of the team to go the path he has, to have their lives consumed with violence and more specifically killing and murder. That's pretty much what Yost and Co., have tried to establish in the 4 issues so far; his role as mentor.

Then in this one-shot all that is blown to sh!t. Wolverine kills, kills and kills. Delights in it. Enjoys it. Wise-cracks about it.

Disgusting, and not the character I love.

I havent read the one-shot yet, is it supposed to happen before the series started? Because that would make a bit more sense as to where his character is in the on going story?

What did you think of the end of issue #4?

nutflush76 · Post by **nutflush76** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote: *possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?
Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .
Oh that would be TRULY, TRUE-LY lame....
Spider-man's not a skrull, but his webshooters are . . .

My money's on Cyclops being a skrull and Tony Stark not being a skrull.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:40 pm

Eternalwarrior68 wrote: What did you think of the end of issue #4?

That last page.....oh my god....

Incredible.

I can't WAIT to see where this thing goes.

I love the regular X-Force title. I'm glad "Ain't No Dog" was a one-shot apart from the main title. It'll be easy to ignore.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:59 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote: *possible spoiler*

Isnt Stark revealed to be a skrull in secret invasion 2?
No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?
Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .
Oh that would be TRULY, TRUE-LY lame....
Spider-man's not a skrull, but his webshooters are . . .

superman-prime wrote:Then after that we get one more day part 2

Even Skrull webshooters would be LESS lame than one more day/ one last day.

Thats not even writing thats just garbage.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:02 pm

nutflush76 wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: No.

*****SPOILERS FOR SECRET INVASION*****

It is revealed that Spider-Woman tells Tony that he is a skrull, after he goes to rebuild his armor. He knows nothing about being a skrull, so either he is a skrull and doesn't know it, is a skrull and pretends he doesn't know it, or isn't a skrull, and Spider-Woman is just trying to mess with his mind.

My bet is on "isn't a skrull".

You are a skrull. You don't know it, but you are a skrull.

See, just because I say it doesn't mean it is true
Wasn't *what* that was implying with him and Spider-woman.

So what do you reckon's happened to Stark?
Maybe his armor's the skrull? Hey, they've tried lamer crap . . .
Oh that would be TRULY, TRUE-LY lame....
Spider-man's not a skrull, but his webshooters are . . .
My money's on Cyclops being a skrull and Tony Stark not being a skrull.

Apart from him nailing the White Queen (which lets face it, good for him but its just ridiculous)...whatever hints have there been that he's a skrull?

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:54 am

talking about spider-woman just saw this pic on comic vine

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:09 am

You know what they say about girls with big hands...

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:24 am

cobra_commander wrote:You know what they say about girls with big hands...

They usually have big Adam's apples???

-slym

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:42 am

cobra_commander wrote:
Apart from him nailing the White Queen (which lets face it, good for him but its just ridiculous)...whatever hints have there been that he's a skrull?

Cyclops is the team leader . . . like the star quarterback . . .

Emma was puddy in his hands . . .

nutflush76 · Post by **nutflush76** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:17 am

siren3-4 wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Apart from him nailing the White Queen (which lets face it, good for him but its just ridiculous)...whatever hints have there been that he's a skrull?

Cyclops is the team leader . . . like the star quarterback . . .

Emma was puddy in his hands . . .

1. it would show just how "secret" this invasion is if Emma Frost could be banging a Skrull all this time and not know it.

2. Recruiting X-force and sending them out as a black ops kill squad is totally out of character for him.

3. There aren't supposed to be any hints. What hints did we have about Spider-Woman?

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:02 am

The changes in Cyclops have been a long time coming. I think that they started in Morrison's run way back when. Those changes seem to be a result of the his whole merge with Apocalypse some time before that. Way before any Secret Invasion was in the works.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:09 pm

nutflush76 wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Apart from him nailing the White Queen (which lets face it, good for him but its just ridiculous)...whatever hints have there been that he's a skrull?

Cyclops is the team leader . . . like the star quarterback . . .

Emma was puddy in his hands . . .
1. it would show just how "secret" this invasion is if Emma Frost could be banging a Skrull all this time and not know it.

2. Recruiting X-force and sending them out as a black ops kill squad is totally out of character for him.

3. There aren't supposed to be any hints. What hints did we have about Spider-Woman?

Uh...the first 2 points you made I would classify as hints... clues to a change in character

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:10 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:The changes in Cyclops have been a long time coming. I think that they started in Morrison's run way back when. Those changes seem to be a result of the his whole merge with Apocalypse some time before that. Way before any Secret Invasion was in the works.

Gracias

Didnt know you were such an X-fan

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:16 pm

cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:The changes in Cyclops have been a long time coming. I think that they started in Morrison's run way back when. Those changes seem to be a result of the his whole merge with Apocalypse some time before that. Way before any Secret Invasion was in the works.
Gracias

Didnt know you were such an X-fan

I am both an X-fan and an adept wielder of the wikipedia

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:26 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:The changes in Cyclops have been a long time coming. I think that they started in Morrison's run way back when. Those changes seem to be a result of the his whole merge with Apocalypse some time before that. Way before any Secret Invasion was in the works.
Gracias

Didnt know you were such an X-fan
I am both an X-fan and an adept wielder of the wikipedia

I a bigger fan of wikipedia now than I am of the X-books

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:30 pm

And for the record, unless of course its an amazing story but I highly doubt thats gonna happen, I hope none of the main characters (ie Cyclops, IM) are revealed to be a skrull.

It should be a new character, with relatively less history (ie Spiderwoman's return). It feels less cheap that way. Less for the sake of a story.

But we'll see maybe Bendis (he's the guy writing SI right?) will just go the whole hog and make a whole buncha people skrulls...

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:39 pm

The new wolverine book this week was quite good. and star wars legacy continues to rock