Harbinger 1 Up For Grabs In CGC 9.8

[Dr. Solar]

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[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

The winning bid was placed with 17 seconds left in the auction. This brought to two the number of bids that were 2,500.00 or more at that point. Any snipes set to be placed for less than 17 seconds left in the auction would've been rendered moot and wouldn't have shown on the auction as having been placed at all, if they were under 2,500.00.
It's conceivable there were several other bids of 1,600.00+ that we don't know about. There could've been snipes set higher than 2,000.00 we'll never know about for the same reason.

Always a given in any auction..... There also could have been none.

We'll NEVER know...

If only gavster had waited until 2 seconds before bidding...

Nah, I think that might have killed him.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

I agree that $2,500 is very unsustainable... the buyer even said he didn't think it would hold.

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One little factoid to throw into this theory. Gavsters winning bid was $2550. That means someone else had bid at least $2500, and didnt win, in order for that final bid to get to $2550.

I think that makes $2500 very sustainable. We know there is at least one more person out there, looking for a 9.8, and willing to pay $2500.

Not...REALLY..... There was someone who WOULD have paid $2500 if they HAD to, but I doubt THEY thought they would HAVE to.

This is proven over and over and over again when an underbidder is presented with an identical item for sale at their high bid...on eBay, from an eBay store...and they turn it down.

Why?

Because they want the CHANCE to win the item for less, even if they are forced to pay their high bid.

Obviously, I don't know for SURE, but I would be willing to bet a Harby #1 that the second high bidder thought his high bid was MORE than safe....and it would have been, if not for Gavster.

How many more are there? Or more importantly, how many people out there that own 9.8's are going to be willing to sell them less than $2500 after seeing this one?

Lots of people. Happens all the time.

Batman #428...one of SIX on the census in 9.8, HALF Harby #1....sold for $900+ in January....one of the other holders of a 9.8 put theirs up in February, and it sold for $511.

If another 9.8 comes up for sale in the next month or so, the price will almost CERTAINLY be lower....significantly lower (around that $1500-$1600 price range we've been talking about.)

The "crazy high bidder" (gavster) is OFF the market and WON'T be a factor.

Given the fact that this book is not going to show up for sale again in 9.8 in god knows how long, thats going to create even more interest, and draw more attention from more investors. This sale is going to strike up alot of peoples interests. And its just going to festor because there isnt another one up. In all honesty, I dont think $2500 is going to cut it next time.

Check GPA....you'll be surprised how often the opposite is true.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

I agree that $2,500 is very unsustainable... the buyer even said he didn't think it would hold.

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One little factoid to throw into this theory. Gavsters winning bid was $2550. That means someone else had bid at least $2500, and didnt win, in order for that final bid to get to $2550.

I think that makes $2500 very sustainable. We know there is at least one more person out there, looking for a 9.8, and willing to pay $2500. How many more are there? Or more importantly, how many people out there that own 9.8's are going to be willing to sell them less than $2500 after seeing this one?

Given the fact that this book is not going to show up for sale again in 9.8 in god knows how long, thats going to create even more interest, and draw more attention from more investors. This sale is going to strike up alot of peoples interests. And its just going to festor because there isnt another one up. In all honesty, I dont think $2500 is going to cut it next time.

The only thing that might possibly change this is that if other 9.8 holders make their books available and want to cash in after seeing this, which might just very well happen.

I don't know about that, it's difficult to predict the thoughts of two people involved in a bidding war. We really can't say this is a new trend without at least another sale at/exceeding this price.

Yay! A voice of reason!

What if the buyer in the future decides he wants to sell this because of a sudden need of cash or wants to purchase something he/she considers more important. If the second bidder no longer wants to pay 2500 for this comic or maybe isn't even around when the auction is listed, it might not go for that price. We'll see when the next 9.8s come around.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

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[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Shame on you!

This analysis rests on the foundation of TWO 9.8 sales.

Oh, sure, the numbers that flow are impressive sounding....

TWO sales does NOT a mathematical trend make. Your SAMPLE is too small to be considered a true sample.

My sample is COMPLETE. That's all I can do.
How many recent sales did you use to price your Primer #2?

The ones I made up in my head as I was rolling around in money on the floor....

If you hadn't sold it yet, where'd you get the money?

pssst....update...it sold for $1125, more than the $1,000 I was asking for it.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Since the announcement of the Harbinger movie and subsequent blurb about new Valiants by the end of the year, Harbinger 1 has consistently traded around double what it traded for before those announcements, be it unslabbed or slabbed.
I'd say we've moved into a new trading range for Harbinger 1. The book was trading in this new range before last night's auction, and still is after it.

Fascinating quote by StarBrand, on March 31.

Looks like we've moved back down into the old trading range for Harbinger #1.

Oops.

I've never seen a prediction so far OFF on these boards.....

Oh, and "this new range" that the book was supposedly "trading in before last night's auction"....didn't exist.

Yes, it was wholly invented by StarBrand.

Ooops.

Nothing worse than inventing fictions and then having people come along and dispel them.