John Byrne's FAQ

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:48 pm

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/listing_search.asp#207

an interesting read and boy does he ever hold his 'hate-on' for Shooter.

kikitwitme · Post by **kikitwitme** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:14 pm

In the faq, Byrne said he created Venom. That's news to me.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:50 am

kikitwitme wrote:In the faq, Byrne said he created Venom. That's news to me.

yeah, did you read his reasoning though? He claims basically that he created a symbiotic, living suit to explain why Iron Fist's outfit was getting destroyed in nearly every issue of his own series. That way he wouldn't personally be envisioning Danny Rand, off panel stitching all of these wrecked outfits back together.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:55 am

Dude . . . McFarlane created Venom . . . it's the look that is so striking as the "anti" spider-man . . .

I like Venom better without the big crazy tongue . . .

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:16 am

siren3-4 wrote:Dude . . . McFarlane created Venom . . . it's the look that is so striking as the "anti" spider-man . . .

I like Venom better without the big crazy tongue . . .

yeah...larson's take on it didn't sit well with me either...

back on byrne though...the guys ego is ginormous

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:23 am

I like a lot of Byrne's work, particularly his run on Namor which is one of my favorite runs ever, but personally I haven't got much use for him.

At Heroescon in '96 he was the guest of honor and he couldn't even be bothered to show up or offe3r an excuse of let the promoter know ahead of time.

I'll echo the gigantic ego comment as well.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:33 pm

Calling John Byrn'es ego Ginormous is like saying the Titanic only sunk a little bit or that the arctic has always been just slightly cold. It's an understatement of EPIC proportions. Further, he's alienated just as many people as his favorite whipping boy-Jim Shooter. This includes Dale Keown, who I believe is his former step-son. Massive talent, but an ego that blots out the freaking sun.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:34 pm

I met him and chatted with him at Dragon*Con once. Seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

And my reading of his FAQ on Venom is that no one person "created" Venom, especially not McFarlane. The character evolved and grew from ideas from several creators. John Byrne, Roger Stern, Tom Defalco, David Michelinie, and Todd McFarlane all had a hand in "creating" Venom.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:37 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Dale Keown, who I believe is his former step-son.

You mean Kieron Dwyer?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:37 pm

Heath wrote:I met him and chatted with him at Dragon*Con once. Seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

And my reading of his FAQ on Venom is that no one person "created" Venom, especially not McFarlane. The character evolved and grew from ideas from several creators. John Byrne, Roger Stern, Tom Defalco, David Michelinie, and Todd McFarlane all had a hand in "creating" Venom.

You must have caught him during a blue moon, Heath. My understanding is that he's nearly as surly as BWS, Taking nothing away from his talent or saying he is a BAD guy-far from it-but just that he has a rep among some fans as not being overly friendly.

The Spider · Post by **The Spider** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:37 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Calling John Byrn'es ego Ginormous is like saying the Titanic only sunk a little bit or that the arctic has always been just slightly cold. It's an understatement of EPIC proportions. Further, he's alienated just as many people as his favorite whipping boy-Jim Shooter. This includes Dale Keown, who I believe is his former step-son. Massive talent, but an ego that blots out the freaking sun.

Actually, Kieron Dwyer was Byrne's stepson. Dale Keown's style did make people consider him a Byrne clone initially though.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:39 pm

The Spider wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:Calling John Byrn'es ego Ginormous is like saying the Titanic only sunk a little bit or that the arctic has always been just slightly cold. It's an understatement of EPIC proportions. Further, he's alienated just as many people as his favorite whipping boy-Jim Shooter. This includes Dale Keown, who I believe is his former step-son. Massive talent, but an ego that blots out the freaking sun.
Actually, Kieron Dwyer was Byrne's stepson. Dale Keown's style did make people consider him a Byrne clone initially though.

Mea Culpa.

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:48 pm

MProyas wrote:http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/listing_search.asp#207

an interesting read and boy does he ever hold his 'hate-on' for Shooter.

Hah, that's funny

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:48 pm

siren3-4 wrote:Dude . . . McFarlane created Venom . . . it's the look that is so striking as the "anti" spider-man . . .

I like Venom better without the big crazy tongue . . .

Same here

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:49 pm

myron wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:Dude . . . McFarlane created Venom . . . it's the look that is so striking as the "anti" spider-man . . .

I like Venom better without the big crazy tongue . . .
yeah...larson's take on it didn't sit well with me either...

back on byrne though...the guys ego is ginormous

Byrne is a great artist (or was anyway, his recent stuff has been less than stellar), but his personality leaves a lot to be desired.

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:50 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Calling John Byrn'es ego Ginormous is like saying the Titanic only sunk a little bit or that the arctic has always been just slightly cold. It's an understatement of EPIC proportions. Further, he's alienated just as many people as his favorite whipping boy-Jim Shooter. This includes Dale Keown, who I believe is his former step-son. Massive talent, but an ego that blots out the freaking sun.

Have you guys ever read some of the stuff he's said on his board? The guy is something else

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:12 am

I used to be a big fan of his but after his run on Wonder Woman he seemed to be dialing a lot of his stuff in. The man is legend that really can't be debated but his ego and his *SQUEE* poor attitude towards other creators, publishers, retailers, and even his own die hard fans, (I remember reading in LitG article where he banned a long time board member who was a mod or admin for saying that he helped Byrne mod the forums and/or helped design his website) is really making it hard for me to care enough to buy any of his new stuff.

He always blames others when his projects fail or when another creator takes over a character and makes that character better than he did like what Peter David wrote with the new Wonder Girl in Young Justice.

I think he needs to retire from comics or do something else because he's hurting his own legend.

maraxusofkeld · Post by **maraxusofkeld** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:04 pm

I really dug a lot of his claissic work, but his newer stuff, even his run on amazing spiderman vol 2 was middle groud AT BEST.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:01 pm

I wished he would finish the story of John Byrne's Next Men.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:11 pm

Well, I was looking for that horrible Superman cover JB did not all too long ago, and instead ran across this little nugget concerning Byrne, by someone named Ian Brill:

-slym

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:41 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:I wished he would finish the story of John Byrne's Next Men.

(But I wonder if he still has it in him...)

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:37 pm

Heath wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I wished he would finish the story of John Byrne's Next Men.

(But I wonder if he still has it in him...)

I think he has it written, already. Hell, he might even have some "drafts" of the art. I recall reading, back in the day, that he had the story figured out. It was going to be MASSIVE. Not his usual 4 issue arc, but a full year of story, each issue being about 5 or 6 pages longer than usual. But, the question is, does a large enough market exist in order to ever bring this to publication? Me, I'd like to see a resolution to Danger Unlimited, too.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:39 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
Heath wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I wished he would finish the story of John Byrne's Next Men.

(But I wonder if he still has it in him...)
I think he has it written, already. Hell, he might even have some "drafts" of the art. I recall reading, back in the day, that he had the story figured out. It was going to be MASSIVE. Not his usual 4 issue arc, but a full year of story, each issue being about 5 or 6 pages longer than usual. But, the question is, does a large enough market exist in order to ever bring this to publication? Me, I'd like to see a resolution to Danger Unlimited, too.

IDW is going to reprint Next Men maybe if it does well he will finally finish the story

myron · Post by **myron** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:48 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
Heath wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:I wished he would finish the story of John Byrne's Next Men.

(But I wonder if he still has it in him...)
I think he has it written, already. Hell, he might even have some "drafts" of the art. I recall reading, back in the day, that he had the story figured out. It was going to be MASSIVE. Not his usual 4 issue arc, but a full year of story, each issue being about 5 or 6 pages longer than usual. But, the question is, does a large enough market exist in order to ever bring this to publication? Me, I'd like to see a resolution to Danger Unlimited, too.

I'd buy it, even though the guy's a tool

The Spider · Post by **The Spider** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:44 pm

slym2none wrote:Well, I was looking for that horrible Superman cover JB did not all too long ago, and instead ran across this little nugget concerning Byrne, by someone named Ian Brill:

-slym

I checked that blog. That quote's actually made by Howard Chaykin re: Byrne during a 1988 interview. Ian Brill just posted that on his blog.

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