VEI Vs. The Recession

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:23 pm

I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:31 pm

yea, that makes sense

Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:31 am

Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:36 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking

Interesting article. What is that last part referring to though? Is Steve Rogers coming back?

Last year, one of Marvel's biggest sellers was a series about the death of Captain America, one of its signature heroes. And guess what? Reports of the Captains's death, like the demise of comics, turned out to be a wee bit premature

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:51 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking

Joey Q saved the comic book industry?

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:54 pm

Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.

Single issue reprints of the early stuff would definately get interest

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:29 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking
Interesting article. What is that last part referring to though? Is Steve Rogers coming back?

Last year, one of Marvel's biggest sellers was a series about the death of Captain America, one of its signature heroes. And guess what? Reports of the Captains's death, like the demise of comics, turned out to be a wee bit premature

Good question.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:35 pm

JustCallMeAric wrote:
Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.
Single issue reprints of the early stuff would definately get interest

Or what about normal trades? Maybe a $9.99 book?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:12 pm

Elveen wrote:
JustCallMeAric wrote:
Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.
Single issue reprints of the early stuff would definately get interest

Or what about normal trades? Maybe a $9.99 book?

10 bucks for a trade sounds good to me.

Getting back to the Hardcover though, I think VEI is doing a great job price wise compared to other companies. It's hard to beat 14 bucks when you order from some place like DCBS.

For example, I wanted to get the Magnus and Solar hardcovers from Dark Horse, but the price they wanted for them is ridiculous, IMO.

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:21 pm

Elveen wrote:
JustCallMeAric wrote:
Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.
Single issue reprints of the early stuff would definately get interest

Or what about normal trades? Maybe a $9.99 book?

Also nice. I really want an Absolute Solar 1-10+ Alpha and Omega

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:30 am

Absloute solar

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:18 am

JustCallMeAric wrote:
Elveen wrote:
JustCallMeAric wrote:
Ryan wrote:I agree on the HCs not being the best way for new readers to try out Valiant. I have a friend who reads mostly DC and I have piqued his interest in Valiant a lot, but he still isn't going to run out and buy a HC of something he has never read before. Now if there were new comics on the stands for $3 a pop.... different story.
Single issue reprints of the early stuff would definately get interest

Or what about normal trades? Maybe a $9.99 book?
Also nice. I really want an Absolute Solar 1-10+ Alpha and Omega

I would pay $75 for one of those!

-slym

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:33 am

heck, i'd let you buy me TWO at that price slym!

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:35 am

superman-prime wrote:Absloute solar

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:33 pm

would not have to pay 75 at dcbs it would be like 44 like all the other absolutes

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:57 pm

yeah but they charge extra for "absluote" solar you're thinking of the more common corrected version

Solitude · Post by **Solitude** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:42 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking
Interesting article. What is that last part referring to though? Is Steve Rogers coming back?

Last year, one of Marvel's biggest sellers was a series about the death of Captain America, one of its signature heroes. And guess what? Reports of the Captains's death, like the demise of comics, turned out to be a wee bit premature

Could be referring to the continuation of the title, with Bucky replacing Steve Rogers.

The idea of single issue reprints sounds interesting. If something could be done in the range of other companies' 10-25 cent books, I could see that being a strong lure to get people to put the books in their hands. Even if VEI doesn't base new books off of that particular universe, it gives new readers some idea of what the company is all about.

On the other hand, some people may dismiss a book at a lower price point simply because of the lower price point, thinking quality doesn't sell for cheap. Which makes me wonder how much of a connection between Valiant and quality still exists in the minds of comic book buyers.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:17 am

Solitude wrote:Which makes me wonder how much of a connection between Valiant and quality still exists in the minds of comic book buyers.

very little to the majority (I am guessing). That will be one of VEIs biggest hurdles.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:19 am

Solitude wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
BloodOfHeroes wrote:Just saw this article on CNNMoney (Mainly about Marvel Comics)

Comic Books are Alive and Kicking
Interesting article. What is that last part referring to though? Is Steve Rogers coming back?

Last year, one of Marvel's biggest sellers was a series about the death of Captain America, one of its signature heroes. And guess what? Reports of the Captains's death, like the demise of comics, turned out to be a wee bit premature
Could be referring to the continuation of the title, with Bucky replacing Steve Rogers.

Could be I suppose, but that sure is an odd way to phrase it, if that's what they meant.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:54 pm

Solitude wrote:Could be referring to the continuation of the title, with Bucky replacing Steve Rogers.

So, Cap is dead, but Bucky is not?

-slym

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:23 pm

slym2none wrote:
Solitude wrote:Could be referring to the continuation of the title, with Bucky replacing Steve Rogers.
So, Cap is dead, but Bucky is not?

-slym

Yeah, but they'll clean all that up in the next Crisis.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:53 pm

Marvel is now using clicks & whistles?

-slym

Solitude · Post by **Solitude** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:10 pm

slym2none wrote:
Solitude wrote:Could be referring to the continuation of the title, with Bucky replacing Steve Rogers.
So, Cap is dead, but Bucky is not?

A few years ago, there was a whole big storyline that introduced the "Winter Soldier". The idea was that, when Bucky got all explodey-ed, he didn't die, but was captured by the Soveits who then brainwashed him and turned him into a kind of super-soldier assassin/spy-type guy. With a bionic arm, because, hey, he was blowed-up, so you've got to have authentic "battle damage". Also part of the blowing up was some brain damage and amnesia. To explain why he's not an old, old man, well, the Soveits kept him in suspended animation while he wasn't off killing someone for them.

While fighting the Winter Soldier, Steve Rogers gets ahold of the Cosmic Cube and uses that to restore Bucky's memory. So he's a good guy again, but he has to live with the shame and guilt of the things he's done as the Winter Soldier. Fast-forward a bit, and Steve is shot and killed, and there's a few months where there's no Captain America... but it's obvious that Tony Stark is going to put someone out there in the costume. Turns out that that someone is Bucky. Guess he had the right skill set, and could handle throwing the shield.

Whew. So that's what's been going on in Captain America.

/threadjack

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:16 pm

When is Uncle Ben coming back, then? He's the only one left, right??? Mar-Vell came back, right?????

-slym (Marvel - where getting killed doesn't mean crap!)

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:28 pm

The Punisher put on the Red, White and Blue for a while and used the name Captain America.

Seriously.

Also, I think the newest Mar-Vell is a Skrull.