Coincidence or Swipe?

[sanman]

I just happened to have the Secret Wars run and my new comics on my night stand and noticed that Sinestero posed on the cover of Green Lantern #52 looks a lot like Captain America posed on Secret Wars #7.

Granted, one could say that the characters are in a generic hero pose that is drawn to fill the page—just a coincidence. Yet, the poses are extremely similar, too similar to be a coincidence—a reversed swipe.

What do you guys think?

[Daniel Jackson]

I think it's probably a coincidence.

[Escaflown4]

The angles are all different. It's definitely a coincidence IMO.

[xodacia81]

It's a coincidence. Besides that, I never cared for the art on Secret Wars, no matter WHICH "sacred cow" was drawing it.

[sanman]

The angles are all different. It's definitely a coincidence IMO.

Here's Sinestro reversed:

[sanman]

The two images are extremely similar, but different enough to make a case of plagiarism difficult. Still, the illustrations are not so far removed to say that Mahnke couldn’t have learned drawing figures from old school comics.

[Daniel Jackson]

Had the artist chose to have a bunch of individuals fighting in the background as in the Secret Wars cover, that may have pressed it closer to a swipe.

[Heath]

Had the artist chose to have a bunch of individuals fighting in the background as in the Secret Wars cover, that may have pressed it closer to a swipe.

Don't forget the hot pink background.

[sanman]

Had the artist chose to have a bunch of individuals fighting in the background as in the Secret Wars cover, that may have pressed it closer to a swipe.

I agree, but at that point you might as well call it a homage and give props to Secret Wars.

[Daniel Jackson]

Had the artist chose to have a bunch of individuals fighting in the background as in the Secret Wars cover, that may have pressed it closer to a swipe.

Don't forget the hot pink background.

Hahaha...yeah, that would be a shame not to include that.

[steverino]

Definitely just a coincidence.

[dave]

I'm thinking ko-in-ki-dink.

It's a pretty general pose

[superman-prime]

luck

[StarBrand]

I think it's impossible to tell, but creative coincidences happen all the time. I once had an artist change a scene I wrote because he refused to draw what I wrote, saying I stole the scene from one of the Home Alone movies.
As strange as it sounds, I've still never seen any of the Home Alone movies...
I've run into several other coincidental situations as well.

[nutflush76]

It's a coincidence. There are probably hundreds of guys balling their fist and looking up at the sky pictures out there. They just aren't all on the covers.

[X-O HoboJoe]

[X-O HoboJoe]

[X-O HoboJoe]

It's an iconic image that implies power, a weapon and the willingness to use it. Ever the faces are tilted back a bit to imply the character's larger and stronger than the viewer.

[sanman]

It's an iconic image that implies power, a weapon and the willingness to use it. Ever the faces are tilted back a bit to imply the character's larger and stronger than the viewer.

I totally forgot about those images—thanks for posting.

I wonder what the original source was.

[ian_house]

It's an iconic image that implies power, a weapon and the willingness to use it. Ever the faces are tilted back a bit to imply the character's larger and stronger than the viewer.

I totally forgot about those images—thanks for posting.

I wonder what the original source was.

Go back and look at ancient statues. I'd guess that kind of posturing has meant the same kind of thing for hundreds or thousands of years.

[X-O HoboJoe]

It's an iconic image that implies power, a weapon and the willingness to use it. Ever the faces are tilted back a bit to imply the character's larger and stronger than the viewer.

I totally forgot about those images—thanks for posting.

I wonder what the original source was.

Go back and look at ancient statues. I'd guess that kind of posturing has meant the same kind of thing for hundreds or thousands of years.

Original source would be tough thing to figure out as I'd think this qualifies as one of the root-images our brains view as an emotional gesture: Not nearly as obvious as someone choking, a smile or tears but more along the lines of a sultry "come-hither" look. It's been around as long as we have and it's one of those looks artists use to get an emotive response.

[dave]

Whatever. I was the original source and I demand retribution! Show me the money!

[BloodOfHeroes]

Whatever. I was the original source and I demand retribution! Show me the money!

[sanman]

It's an iconic image that implies power, a weapon and the willingness to use it. Ever the faces are tilted back a bit to imply the character's larger and stronger than the viewer.

I totally forgot about those images—thanks for posting.

I wonder what the original source was.

Go back and look at ancient statues. I'd guess that kind of posturing has meant the same kind of thing for hundreds or thousands of years.

Original source would be tough thing to figure out as I'd think this qualifies as one of the root-images our brains view as an emotional gesture: Not nearly as obvious as someone choking, a smile or tears but more along the lines of a sultry "come-hither" look. It's been around as long as we have and it's one of those looks artists use to get an emotive response.

Sounds like the makings of an interesting research paper—shared iconic imagery and meaning.

[slym2none]

I say it's a co-inky-dink - it's a commonly used pose, both IRL and in art (as demonstrated by other posts in this thread.)



-slym