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Re-reading my collection of VH1 issues, I wondered about certain 'mysteries' that the creative teams didn't seem to get to answer or publish :o

For examples:

1.) How many X-O Manowar 'armors' were there at one time?

Ok, readers know that the Manowar was supposedly top of the line and somewhat harder to produce. I guess the readers never got to know the full production capabilities of the 'spider aliens'.

2.) Why did Bloodshot leave Earth for the Lunar Colony?

I thought it was cool to know he was there, but it left out why he didn't stick around to support the resistance on Earth.

3. ) Spider Aliens:
a.) Why didn't the 'spider aliens' seem to have any Manowar armor by 4001?
b.) The Psi Lords supposedly 'changed' the Spider Aliens to be herbivores, how come Spylocke's people weren't? How come they attacked Earth in 4001?

4.) How many times did Solar 'split-off' ? Where did both go when Gayle died? And what happened to the Destroyer split-off before Gayle's death.


Any others out there.... :?:

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Sector3600 wrote:3. ) Spider Aliens:
b.) The Psi Lords supposedly 'changed' the Spider Aliens to be herbivores, how come Spylocke's people weren't?
They just changed a few spider-aliens.
4.) How many times did Solar 'split-off' ?
I think it was "only" the Dr Solar split (who joined again with the two Seleskis from two worlds), the Destroyer and when Gayle died?
Where did both go when Gayle died?
One stuck around, but didn't do much, one went to explore and caused Deathmate.
Any others out there.... :?:
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Sector3600 wrote:
3. ) Spider Aliens:
a.) Why didn't the 'spider aliens' seem to have any Manowar armor by 4001?
Magnus did take on a Manowar class armor....what was the issue...hmm maybe in 7 or 8???
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myron wrote:
Sector3600 wrote:
3. ) Spider Aliens:
a.) Why didn't the 'spider aliens' seem to have any Manowar armor by 4001?
Magnus did take on a Manowar class armor....what was the issue...hmm maybe in 7 or 8???
I thought the only X-O Manowar was the piece found in Magnus/Predator :oops:

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I only can remember 4 xo class armors. Solar 7, Aric's 1st armor, Aric's 2nd armor, and the one from Magnus v Predator. I think it was mentioned that the armor that shows up later in magnus is the same one as from Magnus v Predator. I liked the idea that the armor's spore could be molded into ships and other stuff.

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graybola wrote:I only can remember 4 xo class armors. Solar 7, Aric's 1st armor, Aric's 2nd armor, and the one from Magnus v Predator. I think it was mentioned that the armor that shows up later in magnus is the same one as from Magnus v Predator. I liked the idea that the armor's spore could be molded into ships and other stuff.

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AX's armor in Rai #0 had the coloring of a X-O Manowar :?

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Sector3600 wrote:
myron wrote:
Sector3600 wrote:
3. ) Spider Aliens:
a.) Why didn't the 'spider aliens' seem to have any Manowar armor by 4001?
Magnus did take on a Manowar class armor....what was the issue...hmm maybe in 7 or 8???
I thought the only X-O Manowar was the piece found in Magnus/Predator :oops:
you might be right...maybe it was a commando class in the issue I'm thinking... :?

I know they at least mention X-O class...gotta be issue 7...when the spider aliens attack the earth and japan has been infected...

they(the aliens) talk about how long it takes to grow a manowar class armor...
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there were two i know of that existed at the same time. it was pol bekhara, and the armor that solar got the seed from in XO #31. there also was the armor that the aryan had during the malev war. that one responded to the ring that magnus got in the magnus vs predator battle i think. i could be wrong. arics last armor was never to be seen again right, cuz he sent it away before harada killed him. the destroyer from solar # 23 went on to destroy the spider alien homeworld. he returned to earth in 4002 and found out the original solar was dead from the invasion of 4000, right? that was during chaos effect. i dont know if they ever mentioned bloodshots move to the moon.

i wanna know how spylocke found out so much about the blood of heroes to begin with. i also wanna know how come takao konishi was able to mindlock. i thought the control over machines that bloodshot had was explained to be his harbinger ability. was it ever explained how aram came back after chaos and became the geomancer in the magnus story arc with the immortal enemy?

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I think bloodshots blood stored whatever harbinger power the person who had the blood had. Soft of like HARD Corps. So, it would seem that if the blood had been injected into different harbingers the blood could store different powers. The kid Rai (cant remember his name) should have had bloodshots power to communicate with machines, his dads power to inspire people, and any harbinger talent he might have.

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Sector3600 wrote: 1.) How many X-O Manowar 'armors' were there at one time?

Two armors that Aric wore.
There was the one that was shown in both Solar#7 and XO#30.
There was the armor that Magnus threw away and fell into Nazi control.
Then there were the handful of manowar class armors that were destroyed in Solar#35.

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graybola wrote:The kid Rai (cant remember his name) should have had bloodshots power to communicate with machines, his dads power to inspire people, and any harbinger talent he might have.

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Plus his mother's ability to manipulate ectotheric energy.

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Jaknife wrote:there were two i know of that existed at the same time. it was pol bekhara, and the armor that solar got the seed from in XO #31. there also was the armor that the aryan had during the malev war. that one responded to the ring that magnus got in the magnus vs predator battle i think. i could be wrong. arics last armor was never to be seen again right, cuz he sent it away before harada killed him. the destroyer from solar # 23 went on to destroy the spider alien homeworld. he returned to earth in 4002 and found out the original solar was dead from the invasion of 4000, right? that was during chaos effect. i dont know if they ever mentioned bloodshots move to the moon.

i wanna know how spylocke found out so much about the blood of heroes to begin with. i also wanna know how come takao konishi was able to mindlock. i thought the control over machines that bloodshot had was explained to be his harbinger ability. was it ever explained how aram came back after chaos and became the geomancer in the magnus story arc with the immortal enemy?
'Talking about 'The Blood of Heroes', what about how did AX lose the blood he took from Bloodshot in RAI #0?

Or did Ax become the one with the 'blood' by the time of 'Bad Penny', I haven't re-read Rai yet...I' re-started with Solar, then to read the rest up to UNITY before readin each series again.

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I was just on BLOOD OF HEROES website. An email from Bob Layton states that ...Many individuals, between the time of Bloodshot's death and the emergence of the new Rai, used the Blood of Heroes. We simply never got the opportunity to tell those stories......That would have been great!!!!!! I really enjoyed the Sevrets of the Valiant Universe #3 which had a different Rai. Think...that series could have been used to tell at least some of these stories.

HEre is a link to his website. Some REALLY cool stuff!!!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/angelo_mortalli/

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Also has anybody heard of Bloodshot VH3? I have never seen them anywhere. Any info would be great.
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graybola wrote:HEre is a link to his website. Some REALLY cool stuff!!!!!!

http://www.geocities.com/angelo_mortalli/

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graybola wrote:Also has anybody heard of Bloodshot VH3? I have never seen them anywhere. Any info would be great.
VH3 (check my website for the artwork!) was different from both VH-1 and VH-2, while having nanites, an abilit to control machines, and a few other similarities. I promised the writer that I wouldn't reveal too much, but have talked to him, the artist and James Perham about it. It would make a cool tale someday, even if not under the BLOODSHOT title.

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*bump* AND...

Were there Harbingers during Magnus's time? *besides Magnus, Torque, & Rai (Takao Konishi & Obadia)

Why didn't the 'Coven' created a new Shadowman after 1999?

Where's the seed from Aric's armor that went off into space during Rai #0?

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Sector3600 wrote: Where's the seed from Aric's armor that went off into space during Rai #0?
Lost in space forever from the way I understood it.
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Sector3600 wrote:Were there Harbingers during Magnus's time? *besides Magnus, Torque, & Rai (Takao Konishi & Obadia)
Fair guess would be that there were at least as many potential harbingers as ever, but noone around to activate them.

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whetteon wrote:
Sector3600 wrote: Where's the seed from Aric's armor that went off into space during Rai #0?
Lost in space forever from the way I understood it.
Why wouldn't it return to the Spider Aliens?

It supposedly had a homing instinct when it went to seed.

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magnusr wrote:
Sector3600 wrote:Were there Harbingers during Magnus's time? *besides Magnus, Torque, & Rai (Takao Konishi & Obadia)
Fair guess would be that there were at least as many potential harbingers as ever, but noone around to activate them.

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But there had to be a Omega out there, and where did John Stanchek's children go?

How did Takao Konishi's harbinger powers get activated?

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the coven didnt need a new shadowman because magic was destroyd in '99, so there would be no point.

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Sector3600 wrote:How did Takao Konishi's harbinger powers get activated?
By the blood, I believe.

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Jaknife wrote:the coven didnt need a new shadowman because magic was destroyd in '99, so there would be no point.
How was magic destroyed :?

In the 41st century there was still Geomancy?

Are you refering to the 'Darque' power? That supposedly ended in Chaos Effect and Shadowman was still around until 1999.

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Sector3600 wrote:
Jaknife wrote:the coven didnt need a new shadowman because magic was destroyd in '99, so there would be no point.
How was magic destroyed :?

In the 41st century there was still Geomancy?

Are you refering to the 'Darque' power? That supposedly ended in Chaos Effect and Shadowman was still around until 1999.
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