No blasphemy intended...

[MarkRoseHFX]

Rai #0 was the first appearance. EW 4 is first appearance in costume.

KV

End of discussion imo right here

Except this is incorrect. Bloodshot appears in costume in Rai #0. If Rai #0 is his "first appearance", it is also his first appearance in costume. The printed page doesn't lie.

The only thing I have not been able to confirm is that Eternal Warrior #4 came out a few weeks before Rai #0. We can deduce that it did, but I have seen no confirmation of this.

I hear you there. I'm also of the school of thought that a cameo isn't really a first appearance. To me a first appearance of a character needs at least a little bit of character development. I don't think popping up an epilogue counts. I really wish i could remember which came out first. My recollection is getting Rai #0 first but i mean hell that book was so epic and it was so long ago i have no idea.

[MarkRoseHFX]

So once again, Valiant considers Rai 0 as the first appearance. Hard to argue with that.

Actually, it is very easy to argue with that. I own a comic book that I bought in 1992, a couple weeks before I bought Rai #0. It has Bloodshot in it. I bought both off the stands. I bought one before the other. The first was Eternal Warrior #4. A couple weeks later was Rai #0. Both have Bloodshot in it.

I am perfectly fine with considering Rai #0 the First Appearance of Bloodshot, just like I consider Hulk #181 the First Appearance of Wolverine. Just don't tell me those are the first appearances of those characters.

was too far behind on the thread and didn't see this first oooops. I agree 100%.

[hulk181man]

So once again, Valiant considers Rai 0 as the first appearance. Hard to argue with that.

Actually, it is very easy to argue with that. I own a comic book that I bought in 1992, a couple weeks before I bought Rai #0. It has Bloodshot in it. I bought both off the stands. I bought one before the other. The first was Eternal Warrior #4. A couple weeks later was Rai #0. Both have Bloodshot in it.

I am perfectly fine with considering Rai #0 the First Appearance of Bloodshot, just like I consider Hulk #181 the First Appearance of Wolverine. Just don't tell me those are the first appearances of those characters.

Hey, leave me out of this mess

FWIW, the answer is obviously EW 4. If you want to consider that a cameo and Rai 0 first full, I'm ok with that.

[Blood of Heroes]

Hey, leave me out of this mess

[Elveen]

Hey, leave me out of this mess

1. You OTV guys can argue with anything

Why do I have to leave you out of this mess? You want some other mess? What this mess not good enough for you? You think you better than this mess?

[drmirage]

You all better get it together!

[Elveen]

[Dr. Solar]

Masterful.

[MarkRoseHFX]

I still want to vote for ice cream. or bacon. or fish tacos. or even some sushi that sounds good. I had Indian food earlier. how about that mediocre local sports team? should be a good year for them!

[Dr. Solar]

how about that mediocre local sports team? should be a good year for them!

We had a great July, let's hope August is just as good!

[MarkRoseHFX]

We had a great July, let's hope August is just as good!

YAAAAY GOOOOOOO TEAM!

speaking of random tangents Dr Solar i was watching that show Oddities: San Francisco earlier have you ever been to that store Loved to Death? they have some crazy squee on that show

[Blood of Heroes]

You all better get it together!

[Elveen]

Masterful.

Thanks. I especially like the finger point, almost like he is going to poke someone in the chest.... or as it should be called now, LaVar'ed.

[Dr. Solar]

speaking of random tangents Dr Solar i was watching that show Oddities: San Francisco earlier have you ever been to that store Loved to Death? they have some crazy squee on that show

I'm not sure. Maybe I have, but it didn't leave much of an impression on me if I did.

Generally, I stay away from the Haight. That's not the neighborhood for me.

[dhudson1]

Now, back to our regularly scheduled topic...


We keep worrying about which came out first. There is no way to know as time is not absolute

[MarkRoseHFX]

Generally, I stay away from the Haight. That's not the neighborhood for me.

I was always thought it was like this super epic hippie place. Makes me think of R. Crumb and Janis Joplin hanging around the same area getting messed up.