Quantum & Woody #6
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Quantum & Woody #6
Well, I like the art.
I think the humor is a little uninspired this arc, there were some good moments (specifically the A&A ref) but overall I don't think this arc isn't up to snuff with the previous one.
I think the humor is a little uninspired this arc, there were some good moments (specifically the A&A ref) but overall I don't think this arc isn't up to snuff with the previous one.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
This arc is a lot more slapstick than the previous one, but it's still enjoyable. I didn't mind the art, but looking at the pencils at the end of the issue made me think this colorist is what puts people off about it. The pencils are pretty damn good, but the colors are kind of washed out compared to the previous arc.
It was nice to see Cejudo again (probably misspelled that). I like the maiden/mother/crone thing they have going there.
It was nice to see Cejudo again (probably misspelled that). I like the maiden/mother/crone thing they have going there.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
The book made me laugh, no doubt about it. I liked it more than the last issue.
The art is definitely second tier but it didn't spoil the book for me. The funniest moment for me is the non-verbal glare Magnum cast at his team when Quantum asks about landmines. So kudos to Doyle for that.
And having whined last issue about the iconography and overtly political tone, I will say that I appreciated the joke about militias paranoid about gun grabbing being the actual target of a government conspiracy to disarm them.
7.5/10
The art is definitely second tier but it didn't spoil the book for me. The funniest moment for me is the non-verbal glare Magnum cast at his team when Quantum asks about landmines. So kudos to Doyle for that.
And having whined last issue about the iconography and overtly political tone, I will say that I appreciated the joke about militias paranoid about gun grabbing being the actual target of a government conspiracy to disarm them.
7.5/10
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
I absolutely enjoyed this issue much more than the last. Woody was actually very funny and even kind of endearing, I was really annoyed with him last issue. Looking forward to the next. I still don't love Doyle's art, but I think it was better here than the last issue. Although the backgrounds are still really bland.
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Forgot to mention: the Barack Obama joke at the end was hilarious!
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^^^This! I laughed out loud!hunter_peterson wrote:Forgot to mention: the Barack Obama joke at the end was hilarious!
This issue was better than #5 for me, and while I still can't help but pine for Tom Fowler, I can see myself loving Ming Doyle's art just as much once I've seen another issue or two.
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I'm in the same boat as you guys. Still not a Doyle fan, but the writing was much, much better and the jokes didn't repeatedly go for the obvious low-brow stuff this time. A step up from last issue.
Two negative comments
1) The flashback to Eric's military training...that felt like a complete non sequitur to me.
2) Where did Ming Doyle learn how to draw cars?
Two negative comments
1) The flashback to Eric's military training...that felt like a complete non sequitur to me.
2) Where did Ming Doyle learn how to draw cars?
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First of all, the Clayton Crain cover might be one of the best covers I have EVER seen! And as far as art, I do believe Doyle's work was better this issue than in #5. Also, I agree with one of the above posts that the coloring is kinda not suited for this book.
"Dude, you're like....crazy loud when you talk to yourself" hah hah!
And I didn't pick up on the Barack Obama joke until you mentioned it. that is friggin hysterical!
Pretty cool issue overall.
"Dude, you're like....crazy loud when you talk to yourself" hah hah!
And I didn't pick up on the Barack Obama joke until you mentioned it. that is friggin hysterical!
Pretty cool issue overall.
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I agree re: the Crain cover, the Unity #1 was also fantasticBone-A-Fach-ee wrote:First of all, the Clayton Crain cover might be one of the best covers I have EVER seen! And as far as art, I do believe Doyle's work was better this issue than in #5. Also, I agree with one of the above posts that the coloring is kinda not suited for this book.
"Dude, you're like....crazy loud when you talk to yourself" hah hah!
And I didn't pick up on the Barack Obama joke until you mentioned it. that is friggin hysterical!
Pretty cool issue overall.

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Yeah, that leaped off the page for me. The art is rough and a little cockeyed, the anatomical poses were a little less than natural in some cases... but the cars!tchalla8 wrote:2) Where did Ming Doyle learn how to draw cars?

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Heh, didn't realize that til you all mentioned it. Went back, and WOW! Hah hah! Those are some pretty funny lookin' cars! Pffft!jmatt wrote:Yeah, that leaped off the page for me. The art is rough and a little cockeyed, the anatomical poses were a little less than natural in some cases... but the cars!tchalla8 wrote:2) Where did Ming Doyle learn how to draw cars?That hadda be a joke, I could draw cars better than that.
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Also the air plane has no landing gear, it is floating and held up by some very wrong looking stairs.jmatt wrote:Yeah, that leaped off the page for me. The art is rough and a little cockeyed, the anatomical poses were a little less than natural in some cases... but the cars!tchalla8 wrote:2) Where did Ming Doyle learn how to draw cars?That hadda be a joke, I could draw cars better than that.
And why do detective Cujedo (or whatever) have a different skin tone than 69? They're clones shouldn't they be the same.
For me this was dreadful, I'm only buying the book because it is Valiant but definitely not enjoying it as much as I should be.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
Yeah, this title just isn't doing it for me. I'm at the point of picking it up, just to pick it up. Issues 1-3 were the perfect balance of fun read, and cartoonish bafoonery. But issue 4 was rushed, and this current arc just seems to be grasping at the lowest denominator. Make fun of Christians (i'm not religious so it doesn't offend me, but from a comedic standpoint, it's old tread on the tire, it's been done to death), now with the crazy militia (again, done to death, and just another jab at hillbilly white folk) And the president joke at the end just didn't get me laughing. That's the oldest "they all look the same to me" gag that's been used since the dawn of time. The artwork, while not to the level of the first arc, wasn't as bothersome and distracting this issue, although I'm still not on board the Ming Doyle bandwagon. I just don't think this is the right title for her work. At least they addressed the problem I had with Q&W having to Klang every 24 hours, I makes sense they would have the shared interest of seeing each other survive, since each is codependant, although to eliminate that aspect of the powers, would do more to further the book imho.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
I enjoyed #6 more than #5, but I thought the art was worse, and overall is still far from what I thought was a gem of a first arc.
I was willing to give Doyle the benefit of the doubt on some rushed looking pages in #5 since she was a last minute replacement for Lee Garbett (who was originally solicited for this arc). There is no excuse for a few of the panels in #6, though.
I see in the solicit for Goat #0 that Fowler is co-writing...I hope that bodes well for he and Asmus continuing as a team on this book in the future because there seems to be a large discrepancy in the quality without Fowler on board.
I was willing to give Doyle the benefit of the doubt on some rushed looking pages in #5 since she was a last minute replacement for Lee Garbett (who was originally solicited for this arc). There is no excuse for a few of the panels in #6, though.
I see in the solicit for Goat #0 that Fowler is co-writing...I hope that bodes well for he and Asmus continuing as a team on this book in the future because there seems to be a large discrepancy in the quality without Fowler on board.
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I love QW, but this arc has been a big disappointment.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
This issue stepped it back up a bit from #5 and this arc has been illustrating more what I didn't find appealing about the title/characters the first time. The low brow humor. I admit some of it did make me chuckle but nothing like the first arc where the humor stemmed more from their personal connections and not cliche ages old anachronisms.
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Finally read this. Ugh yet again. That art - what the hell?
Writing started out great in the first arc, but so far it just feels tired and predictable. Totally not feeling this book. My greatest hope is that it only ties into the greater VEI universe tangentially so I can drop it.
If this were not a VEI book (which it really doesn't feel like the rest do), I'd have already dropped it.
Ugh.
Writing started out great in the first arc, but so far it just feels tired and predictable. Totally not feeling this book. My greatest hope is that it only ties into the greater VEI universe tangentially so I can drop it.
If this were not a VEI book (which it really doesn't feel like the rest do), I'd have already dropped it.
Ugh.
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I enjoyed this issue, I think it was better than #5. Not quite up to par with the first arc, but good.
I like Ming Doyles artwork, its more of an artsy style than one would expect for a superhero book, and I'm okay with that. It has a bit of a Paul Pope vibe to it, & I really like Paul Pope. I actually think its a good thing the guys at VEI are willing to experiment with the boundaries of what fans might be expecting from a shared-universe superhero line like this. NOt sure if that will work out in the long run though, if its too far against fan expectation then it won't find a solid audience, I suppose.
The humour was good this issue, not quite as low-brow & immature, though it does feel a bit forced in places. While I enjoy Woody's brash & abrasive character, he does seem to be a non-stop joker, paerticularly in this issue, which is where it was wearing a little thin for me. The first arc had more character moments that kept the humour balance in check.
I like Ming Doyles artwork, its more of an artsy style than one would expect for a superhero book, and I'm okay with that. It has a bit of a Paul Pope vibe to it, & I really like Paul Pope. I actually think its a good thing the guys at VEI are willing to experiment with the boundaries of what fans might be expecting from a shared-universe superhero line like this. NOt sure if that will work out in the long run though, if its too far against fan expectation then it won't find a solid audience, I suppose.
The humour was good this issue, not quite as low-brow & immature, though it does feel a bit forced in places. While I enjoy Woody's brash & abrasive character, he does seem to be a non-stop joker, paerticularly in this issue, which is where it was wearing a little thin for me. The first arc had more character moments that kept the humour balance in check.
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Yeah, I agree on the point about using hillbilly white folk as a target for humour, seems a path that writers are happy to go down as it's (somehow) socially acceptable to make fun of lower working class white people.....but anyway...Aomalle27 wrote:now with the crazy militia (again, done to death, and just another jab at hillbilly white folk) And the president joke at the end just didn't get me laughing. That's the oldest "they all look the same to me" gag that's been used since the dawn of time. The artwork, while not to the level of the first arc, wasn't as bothersome and distracting this issue, although I'm still not on board the Ming Doyle bandwagon. I just don't think this is the right title for her work. At least they addressed the problem I had with Q&W having to Klang every 24 hours, I makes sense they would have the shared interest of seeing each other survive, since each is codependant, although to eliminate that aspect of the powers, would do more to further the book imho.
The book was fine, some funny parts in it but certainly not an 'essential read'. I didn't realise Lee Garbett was initially supposed to draw this arc, I think that would've made a big difference
Didn't realise there was a 'Ming Doyle bandwagon'...that got me thinking, I wonder what a bandwagon drawn by Ming would look like?

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there's always a bandwagon...even if its emptyDallow Spicer1 wrote:Yeah, I agree on the point about using hillbilly white folk as a target for humour, seems a path that writers are happy to go down as it's (somehow) socially acceptable to make fun of lower working class white people.....but anyway...Aomalle27 wrote:now with the crazy militia (again, done to death, and just another jab at hillbilly white folk) And the president joke at the end just didn't get me laughing. That's the oldest "they all look the same to me" gag that's been used since the dawn of time. The artwork, while not to the level of the first arc, wasn't as bothersome and distracting this issue, although I'm still not on board the Ming Doyle bandwagon. I just don't think this is the right title for her work. At least they addressed the problem I had with Q&W having to Klang every 24 hours, I makes sense they would have the shared interest of seeing each other survive, since each is codependant, although to eliminate that aspect of the powers, would do more to further the book imho.
The book was fine, some funny parts in it but certainly not an 'essential read'. I didn't realise Lee Garbett was initially supposed to draw this arc, I think that would've made a big difference
Didn't realise there was a 'Ming Doyle bandwagon'...that got me thinking, I wonder what a bandwagon drawn by Ming would look like?![]()
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Dallow Spicer1 wrote: Didn't realise there was a 'Ming Doyle bandwagon'...that got me thinking, I wonder what a bandwagon drawn by Ming would look like?![]()

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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
Fowler returns for #0! Hope he comes back for good! 
Sorry, but frankly, Ming Doyle's art is more suited for those one-page Q&W minis they did before the pilot launch.

Sorry, but frankly, Ming Doyle's art is more suited for those one-page Q&W minis they did before the pilot launch.
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Re: Quantum & Woody #6
I think this was the only bit in this issue that I thought was funny (and in any way relatable to the original Q&W, as it was playing with the tropes of comic story-telling).Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:"Dude, you're like....crazy loud when you talk to yourself"
It seemed to me that the "joke" was that Eric is black and Obama is black; am I missing something? Not seeing anything deeper there.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:And I didn't pick up on the Barack Obama joke until you mentioned it.
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The joke is that the child thinks that Eric is Obama because he's black and they're rednecks with no black people at all among them. And he seems like he's taking their guns, so the kid is like YOU WERE RIGHT! Jokes are less funny after explanations, right?kjjohanson wrote:I think this was the only bit in this issue that I thought was funny (and in any way relatable to the original Q&W, as it was playing with the tropes of comic story-telling).Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:"Dude, you're like....crazy loud when you talk to yourself"
It seemed to me that the "joke" was that Eric is black and Obama is black; am I missing something? Not seeing anything deeper there.Bone-A-Fach-ee wrote:And I didn't pick up on the Barack Obama joke until you mentioned it.

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For me the artist is really hurting this title. I loved the first arc...loved Fowlers art and it fit the book perfectly.
The art the last two issues is really bad and not really up to carrying a monthly book. This type of art is fine for a one or two page "comic strip" story but not good enough for 22 pages a month. And i say this as a person with pretty eclectic tastes in art. I am a big fan of Dark Horse Presents, which puts out a lot of different styles (and allows established artists to experiment).
The art the last two issues is really bad and not really up to carrying a monthly book. This type of art is fine for a one or two page "comic strip" story but not good enough for 22 pages a month. And i say this as a person with pretty eclectic tastes in art. I am a big fan of Dark Horse Presents, which puts out a lot of different styles (and allows established artists to experiment).
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