Marvel getting the SW franchise...

[Sven the Returned]

How do the folks over here feel about it?

[comicsyte95]

If the new Star Wars movies are well done im happy.

[Sven the Returned]

There can still be crappy comics.

[comicsyte95]

Possible.

[iwantvaliant]

How do the folks over here feel about it?

How do you feel about it?

[Sven the Returned]

Not the end of the world but i would prefer DH.

[Chiclo]

How do the folks over here feel about it?

It is hard to specifically label my feelings. I think the word apathetic comes closest.

[Cyberstrike]

I can't say that I'm surprised since that Disney did with their comics that Boom! Studios were publishing and IMHO Boom was doing some great work and showing that the long-running Disney comics still had a lot of life in them and showing that some Disney properties like The Muppets could work in comics and seem they were trying to be build a Disney Comic Book Universe with Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, and Chip and Dale's Resuce Rangers with the long running Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Uncle Scrooge titles. Too bad Marvel has done next to nothing with them.

My fear is that while they will publish Star Wars comics based on the movies and The Clone Wars TV show. I don't know if we will see as much or any of the Expanded Universe set long before the movies like the Dawn of the Jedi and The Knights of the Old Republic eras. I doubt we will see much if any of the continuation of original post-Return of the Jedi material that Dark Horse did because of the new movies comig out.

I also not sure if I like Disney having all of the comics of the properties that they own and having Marvel be the sole publisher of it. I get it from a business sense, they don't have share the profits with other companies but some smaller companies could produce an entire line of comics for Disney and be all about the Disney characters, Crossgen, Star Wars and whatever else they own, and not having to worry about the problems that Marvel has. A smaller company could hire a dedicated editoral staff and creators who really know about Star Wars and just want to produce great Star Wars comics that sell, and not have to put the editioral BS that happens at companies like Marvel.

[Sven the Returned]

Hopefully canon will be decided bu the story group.

[Cyberstrike]

Most sci-fi TV and movie franchies canon is the movie and TV shows which is the exactly the case with Star Wars and Star Trek other media such as video games, comics, and novels (especially comics and novels) are generally not considered part of the canon unless the creators and/or owners work or say other wise.

There are of course exceptions but most of the exceptions are when the show or movies are not being made and there are no plans to bring it back any time in the near future. So this applies to franchises like Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Farscape, Firefly/Serenity and The Terminator and durning "the Wilderness Years" of some franchises (when franchises are not considered cool or have legal problems) for series like Battlestar Galactica, The Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Doctor Who

[Sven the Returned]

Things had been swinging the other way recently with Trek being more internally consistent with novels, comics and movies not stepping on eachothers toes in the JJverse, Halo havein consistent tie-ins and Mass Effect doing the same. Most of SW was always canon, there were just different levels of canon.

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I don't know how much of the current EU will survive, but they have already said there is going to be a major push to keep all future stories cannon.

I think any stories that happened before (and maybe during) the OT could survive. I'm afraid a lot of the post OT stories are what may wind up getting left behind.

Also, I think Marvel could do a great job with the Star Wars comics. What I've read from the original run wasn't that bad and the problems in the Marvel stories mostly revolved around the fact that they weren't allowed to know what was coming up in future movies.

[Paradigm38]

These new movies wil have to wow me first. Dark Horse did an outstanding job with SW books for a long time. I just don't see Marvel giving the stories great justice (of course they WILL sell just loads of them to the next fanbase, but us old-timers will just rock away in our chairs remembering the "good old days").

[Chiclo]

Also, I think Marvel could do a great job with the Star Wars comics. What I've read from the original run wasn't that bad and the problems in the Marvel stories mostly revolved around the fact that they weren't allowed to know what was coming up in future movies.

While I do agree that Marvel could do a good job with Star Wars comics, I would be very surprised if they do.

Dark Horse cultivated Star Wars comics. They had a lucrative license and they knew it. Accordingly, they grew the line with care and great respect to the licensors, grateful for the chance. I expect Marvel to enjoy ripping a significant portion of Dark Horse's market share from them and half-heartedly publishing a few Star Wars comics, ultimately neglecting the line and allowing it to languish into obscurity. Just like they did with the CrossGen relaunch.

[Sven the Returned]

I am so grateful that they have to talk to the story group first.

[Cyberstrike]

Things had been swinging the other way recently with Trek being more internally consistent with novels, comics and movies not stepping on eachothers toes in the JJverse, Halo havein consistent tie-ins and Mass Effect doing the same. Most of SW was always canon, there were just different levels of canon.

Star Trek's problems are because the reboot universe is a complete and total mess.
I'm not big fan of Halo.
Mass Effect's comics and novels are (for the most part even though from I've read about the fourth novel from fans it should not be considered canon because it aprently sucks so bad) considered part of the canon as long as Commander Shepard is not a major character. I mean the comic book series Mass Effect: Redemption and Mass Effect: Invasion were lead-ins to the Mass Effect 2: Lair of The Shadow Broker and Mass Effect 3: Omega DLCs respectfully.
Dragon Age from DH are considered the BioWare canon which means for fans who play DA3 without playing/importing the events of the first two games.

[The Spider]

I can't say that I'm surprised since that Disney did with their comics that Boom! Studios were publishing and IMHO Boom was doing some great work and showing that the long-running Disney comics still had a lot of life in them and showing that some Disney properties like The Muppets could work in comics and seem they were trying to be build a Disney Comic Book Universe with Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, and Chip and Dale's Resuce Rangers with the long running Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Uncle Scrooge titles. Too bad Marvel has done next to nothing with them.

My fear is that while they will publish Star Wars comics based on the movies and The Clone Wars TV show. I don't know if we will see as much or any of the Expanded Universe set long before the movies like the Dawn of the Jedi and The Knights of the Old Republic eras. I doubt we will see much if any of the continuation of original post-Return of the Jedi material that Dark Horse did because of the new movies comig out.

I also not sure if I like Disney having all of the comics of the properties that they own and having Marvel be the sole publisher of it. I get it from a business sense, they don't have share the profits with other companies but some smaller companies could produce an entire line of comics for Disney and be all about the Disney characters, Crossgen, Star Wars and whatever else they own, and not having to worry about the problems that Marvel has. A smaller company could hire a dedicated editoral staff and creators who really know about Star Wars and just want to produce great Star Wars comics that sell, and not have to put the editioral BS that happens at companies like Marvel.

I wonder if this is why the Cartoon Network books are over at IDW and not DC despite WB owning DC and Cartoon Network.

[Sven the Returned]

Things had been swinging the other way recently with Trek being more internally consistent with novels, comics and movies not stepping on eachothers toes in the JJverse, Halo havein consistent tie-ins and Mass Effect doing the same. Most of SW was always canon, there were just different levels of canon.

Star Trek's problems are because the reboot universe is a complete and total mess.
I'm not big fan of Halo.
Mass Effect's comics and novels are (for the most part even though from I've read about the fourth novel from fans it should not be considered canon because it aprently sucks so bad) considered part of the canon as long as Commander Shepard is not a major character. I mean the comic book series Mass Effect: Redemption and Mass Effect: Invasion were lead-ins to the Mass Effect 2: Lair of The Shadow Broker and Mass Effect 3: Omega DLCs respectfully.
Dragon Age from DH are considered the BioWare canon which means for fans who play DA3 without playing/importing the events of the first two games.

Trek is not a mess, they rebooted and they have new consistent universe.

ME other stuff is still canon, it's logical that they don't want anything to do with Shepard. Books are decent to tolerable and the comics are good/decent for the most part.

Never played Dragon Age.

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I don't know how much of the current EU will survive, but they have already said there is going to be a major push to keep all future stories cannon.

I think any stories that happened before (and maybe during) the OT could survive. I'm afraid a lot of the post OT stories are what may wind up getting left behind.

Also, I think Marvel could do a great job with the Star Wars comics. What I've read from the original run wasn't that bad and the problems in the Marvel stories mostly revolved around the fact that they weren't allowed to know what was coming up in future movies.

Marvel's original SW run was fun, Archie Goodwin crafted some interesting stories, I remember Walt Simonson as an artist for some issues (loved his work on Marvel's BSG title) and they introduced some notable characters of their own (The Tagge Family springs to mind first)

Of course, there were instances where they ran afoul of the Lucas office, most notably when Goodwin did indeed develop a story where the Empire were rebuilding a new Death Star to which Lucasfilm nixed it because ROTJ was set to premiere soon.

[Cyberstrike]

I can't say that I'm surprised since that Disney did with their comics that Boom! Studios were publishing and IMHO Boom was doing some great work and showing that the long-running Disney comics still had a lot of life in them and showing that some Disney properties like The Muppets could work in comics and seem they were trying to be build a Disney Comic Book Universe with Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, and Chip and Dale's Resuce Rangers with the long running Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Uncle Scrooge titles. Too bad Marvel has done next to nothing with them.

My fear is that while they will publish Star Wars comics based on the movies and The Clone Wars TV show. I don't know if we will see as much or any of the Expanded Universe set long before the movies like the Dawn of the Jedi and The Knights of the Old Republic eras. I doubt we will see much if any of the continuation of original post-Return of the Jedi material that Dark Horse did because of the new movies comig out.

I also not sure if I like Disney having all of the comics of the properties that they own and having Marvel be the sole publisher of it. I get it from a business sense, they don't have share the profits with other companies but some smaller companies could produce an entire line of comics for Disney and be all about the Disney characters, Crossgen, Star Wars and whatever else they own, and not having to worry about the problems that Marvel has. A smaller company could hire a dedicated editoral staff and creators who really know about Star Wars and just want to produce great Star Wars comics that sell, and not have to put the editioral BS that happens at companies like Marvel.

I wonder if this is why the Cartoon Network books are over at IDW and not DC despite WB owning DC and Cartoon Network.

Because DC wasn't doing them and CN/WB probably didn't know if they were still popular.

[Cyberstrike]

Things had been swinging the other way recently with Trek being more internally consistent with novels, comics and movies not stepping on eachothers toes in the JJverse, Halo havein consistent tie-ins and Mass Effect doing the same. Most of SW was always canon, there were just different levels of canon.

Star Trek's problems are because the reboot universe is a complete and total mess.
I'm not big fan of Halo.
Mass Effect's comics and novels are (for the most part even though from I've read about the fourth novel from fans it should not be considered canon because it aprently sucks so bad) considered part of the canon as long as Commander Shepard is not a major character. I mean the comic book series Mass Effect: Redemption and Mass Effect: Invasion were lead-ins to the Mass Effect 2: Lair of The Shadow Broker and Mass Effect 3: Omega DLCs respectfully.
Dragon Age from DH are considered the BioWare canon which means for fans who play DA3 without playing/importing the events of the first two games.

Trek is not a mess, they rebooted and they have new consistent universe.

ME other stuff is still canon, it's logical that they don't want anything to do with Shepard. Books are decent to tolerable and the comics are good/decent for the most part.

Never played Dragon Age.

The Star Trek rebooted timeline makes less even sense that the original timeline did and I understood the original timeline.

I know about the offical ME stuff like the comics, webcomics, novels, the anime movie, and the DLCs but at the end of day if BioWare decides to do something that changes the lore in the video games that cancels out something in other media then it's not part of the canon. Most of the comics and novels are prequels and side-stories. Mass Effect: Paragon Lost (the anime movie) was a side story to the events in Mass Effect 2.

[xodacia81]

Most sci-fi TV and movie franchies canon is the movie and TV shows which is the exactly the case with Star Wars and Star Trek other media such as video games, comics, and novels (especially comics and novels) are generally not considered part of the canon unless the creators and/or owners work or say other wise.

There are of course exceptions but most of the exceptions are when the show or movies are not being made and there are no plans to bring it back any time in the near future. So this applies to franchises like Buffy, the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Farscape, Firefly/Serenity and The Terminator and durning "the Wilderness Years" of some franchises (when franchises are not considered cool or have legal problems) for series like Battlestar Galactica, The Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Doctor Who

True. I've been hearing that Marvel/Disney plan on ignoring everything that came after Return of the Jedi that isn't linked to the current films. As to Doctor Who, that is s sticky wicket. I don't care for the idea of Loomed Time-Lords and such. There's socio-political reasons why that author made that decision, and why certain fans like it, and others don't. I call crap on it. The Doctor has said IN THE SERIES PROPER that he had children and such. That pretty much eliminates Lungbarrow as being legit.

[CylonSteve]

Knowing Marvel Deadpool will be in it...
I dunno I think it'll stink, just like crossgen and other groovy licences that Marvel owns, but is now locked away in the Disney Vault forever and ever.

[Sven the Returned]

Things had been swinging the other way recently with Trek being more internally consistent with novels, comics and movies not stepping on eachothers toes in the JJverse, Halo havein consistent tie-ins and Mass Effect doing the same. Most of SW was always canon, there were just different levels of canon.

Star Trek's problems are because the reboot universe is a complete and total mess.
I'm not big fan of Halo.
Mass Effect's comics and novels are (for the most part even though from I've read about the fourth novel from fans it should not be considered canon because it aprently sucks so bad) considered part of the canon as long as Commander Shepard is not a major character. I mean the comic book series Mass Effect: Redemption and Mass Effect: Invasion were lead-ins to the Mass Effect 2: Lair of The Shadow Broker and Mass Effect 3: Omega DLCs respectfully.
Dragon Age from DH are considered the BioWare canon which means for fans who play DA3 without playing/importing the events of the first two games.

Trek is not a mess, they rebooted and they have new consistent universe.

ME other stuff is still canon, it's logical that they don't want anything to do with Shepard. Books are decent to tolerable and the comics are good/decent for the most part.

Never played Dragon Age.

The Star Trek rebooted timeline makes less even sense that the original timeline did and I understood the original timeline.

I know about the offical ME stuff like the comics, webcomics, novels, the anime movie, and the DLCs but at the end of day if BioWare decides to do something that changes the lore in the video games that cancels out something in other media then it's not part of the canon. Most of the comics and novels are prequels and side-stories. Mass Effect: Paragon Lost (the anime movie) was a side story to the events in Mass Effect 2.

What kind of huge canon clashes are within the JJverse?

Yeah and ME is consistent, Disney could decalre the OT noncanon anytime, so what is your point?

[Chiclo]

What kind of huge canon clashes are within the JJverse?

Young, attractive people doing fun and exciting things! If I want to watch that, I will watch sports.