Your true feelings about VIP?

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:53 pm

At this point, VIP is using the threats made here to try to sway public opinion. It makes sense to not post threats in light of this. Feelings and thoughts are not threats MotA, there's a difference.

For instance:
The things you post don't make sense, MotA (opinion/thought/feeling), and if you post again I am going to fly down to Mexico and punch you in "los huevos" (threat).*

*The above does not represent my true thoughts or feelings or threats.

**If you don't laugh at this I'll punch you.

***:)

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:54 pm

You spelled it right, now say it

The fact is this, I didn't make a threat, I posted a humorous quote from a movie about fanboys attacking a movie studio

It's called HUMOR

MAKING LIGHT OF THE SITUATION

HAVING FUN AT ONE'S SELF

In today's paranoid/PC America you have forgotten how to do that

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:56 pm

If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:56 pm

LOS HUEVOS!!

I learned me some spanish by taking classes in college.

And from working with dudes from Mexico, though all I learned from them was how to talk about the various body parts of women.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:57 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?

If this goes to the member's only area it means we're cowards and as scared as VIP.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:57 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:At this point, VIP is using the threats made here to try to sway public opinion. It makes sense to not post threats in light of this. Feelings and thoughts are not threats MotA, there's a difference.

For instance:
The things you post don't make sense, MotA (opinion/thought/feeling), and if you post again I am going to fly down to Mexico and punch you in "los huevos" (threat).*

*The above does not represent my true thoughts or feelings or threats.

**If you don't laugh at this I'll punch you.

***:)

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:57 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:In today's paranoid/PC America you have forgotten how to do that

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:57 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:At this point, VIP is using the threats made here to try to sway public opinion. It makes sense to not post threats in light of this. Feelings and thoughts are not threats MotA, there's a difference.

For instance:
The things you post don't make sense, MotA (opinion/thought/feeling), and if you post again I am going to fly down to Mexico and punch you in "los huevos" (threat).*

*The above does not represent my true thoughts or feelings or threats.

**If you don't laugh at this I'll punch you.

***:)

ROFL, damn that was Hi-larious. It is good to get a good belly laugh out of the blue every now and again

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:58 pm

wow u got it better then me and everyone at my work speaks spanish

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:58 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:At this point, VIP is using the threats made here to try to sway public opinion. It makes sense to not post threats in light of this. Feelings and thoughts are not threats MotA, there's a difference.

For instance:
The things you post don't make sense, MotA (opinion/thought/feeling), and if you post again I am going to fly down to Mexico and punch you in "los huevos" (threat).*

*The above does not represent my true thoughts or feelings or threats.

**If you don't laugh at this I'll punch you.

***:)

Very nice way to lighten the mood of the thread.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:58 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:LOS HUEVOS!!

I learned me some spanish by taking classes in college.

And from working with dudes from Mexico, though all I learned from them was how to talk about the various body parts of women.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:59 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?
If this goes to the member's only area it means we're cowards and as scared as VIP.

So where do I tie this goat up? Delaware?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:00 pm

You know in a way, VIP not having their own website is going to kill them. Let's say someone picked up the ashcan and was interested enough to look up Valiant on the web. Naturally they're going to come here, and what they'll find sure isn't going to convince them to support VIP.

Oh, btw....I was talking about this subject to my LCS owner today and he (being an old Valiant fan) told me there was no way he'd stock the VIP titles.

cool.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:00 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?
If this goes to the member's only area it means we're cowards and as scared as VIP.
So where do I tie this goat up? Delaware?

Are you threatning to tie a goat in Delaware and attack Lovitz with it?

DANIEL, THIS GUY IS THREATENING TO HARM A GOAT, QUICK, EDIT HIS POST BEFORE LOVITZ SEES IT!!

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:01 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?

Excellent idea. In fact, perhaps all current threads pertaining to vip should be moved to that area. It may seem like we are caving but since lawyers are obviously reading our posts, our words can be "misinterpreted" at their leisure.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:02 pm

Second_Death wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?
Excellent idea. In fact, perhaps all current threads pertaining to vip should be moved to that area. It may seem like we are caving but since lawyers are obviously reading our posts, our words can be "misinterpreted" at their leisure.

Speaking of huevos, should I now leave mine at the door before posting here?

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:03 pm

Tim Petty wrote:You know in a way, VIP not having their own website is going to kill them. Let's say someone picked up the ashcan and was interested enough to look up Valiant on the web. Naturally they're going to come here, and what they'll find sure isn't going to convince them to support VIP.

Oh, btw....I was talking about this subject to my LCS owner today and he (being an old Valiant fan) told me there was no way he'd stock the VIP titles.

cool.

I was going to talk to my LCS owner tomorrow and respectfully ask that he not carry the product. Shouldn't be a problem sice I had to beg him to get the HC in, and then he only got three (two of which are mine).

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:05 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?
If this goes to the member's only area it means we're cowards and as scared as VIP.
So where do I tie this goat up? Delaware?
Are you threatning to tie a goat in Delaware and attack Lovitz with it?

DANIEL, THIS GUY IS THREATENING TO HARM A GOAT, QUICK, EDIT HIS POST BEFORE LOVITZ SEES IT!!

Hey, I wasn't gonna harm the goat, I just figured if Lovitz needed at date to the VIP coming-out bash, then I'd make it easy for him.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:05 pm

ThrillKillWill wrote:
Tim Petty wrote:You know in a way, VIP not having their own website is going to kill them. Let's say someone picked up the ashcan and was interested enough to look up Valiant on the web. Naturally they're going to come here, and what they'll find sure isn't going to convince them to support VIP.

Oh, btw....I was talking about this subject to my LCS owner today and he (being an old Valiant fan) told me there was no way he'd stock the VIP titles.

cool.
I was going to talk to my LCS owner tomorrow and respectfully ask that he not carry the product. Shouldn't be a problem sice I had to beg him to get the HC in, and then he only got three (two of which are mine).

There is nothing to stock, no solicitations for anything to stock, no ideas to create anything to stock, all there is is a photocopied book of drawings.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:05 pm

what was that pesky thing called?

You know, the one that's like on this list of... "amendments"... it says something about how people are free to say whatever the hell they damn well please.... or words to that effect.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:06 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:If this went to "Member's Only" would that cover us any more legally as far as people trying to use that against us?
If this goes to the member's only area it means we're cowards and as scared as VIP.
So where do I tie this goat up? Delaware?
Are you threatning to tie a goat in Delaware and attack Lovitz with it?

DANIEL, THIS GUY IS THREATENING TO HARM A GOAT, QUICK, EDIT HIS POST BEFORE LOVITZ SEES IT!!
Hey, I wasn't gonna harm the goat, I just figured if Lovitz needed at date to the VIP coming-out bash, then I'd make it easy for him.

Wow, now you're saying that Lovitz is too lame to get a date.

When will you stop?

Don't you know that Daniel Jackson's watching?

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:06 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:what was that pesky thing called?

You know, the one that's like on this list of... "amendments"... it says something about how people are free to say whatever the hell they damn well please.... or words to that effect.

I didn't think you guys had invented rights yet in Mexico.

schi0249 · Post by **schi0249** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:08 pm

Second_Death wrote:
schi0249 wrote:Personally, I am sick of it all. I really wish VIP and VEI could come to a settlement. That is a reason I feel VIP is just in it for the money, not the comics. If they had tons of ideas for books, it would be in their best interest to settle.
I think we all know just how little thought VIP has applied to any "new" ideas.

schi0249 wrote:Neither company is Marvel or DC. They both have much to loose. And by dragging this on, they are putting a sour taste in the mouth of many fans. Treating the ashcan as a sketch, it LOOKS like they may have some interesting ideas. But these days, could ideas mean squat. There have been plenty of comics that were good ideas, but fans didn't support them. This isn't the 90's where everybody and their brother bought comics. Comics are a much more niche market today and rely on the support of fans. Unless of course you are Marvel or DC and can just coast by on 2-3 massive franchises.
You are joking, right? As has been pointed out by several, Valiant succeeded in the 90's because they were different than everybody else (DC, Marvel, and later Image). Many of the people I saw buying preunity Valiant back in the day, were buying very little being published by anyone else. This began to change when Valiant became the it company and everybody was buying them.

As far as new ideas go, it is apparent that whoever drew those pictures for the vip trashcan has decided that harbingers are now mutants with wings. .......where have we seen that before?

See, I was one of those that got into Valiant because they were the IT company. Same reason I initially got into Image. The difference was, Image had little content to back up the claim. Valiant had great characters and stories.

I am an old school video gamer. i grew up on the 2600, NES, and Sega MS. I am a huge Wii fan today. Why? They are not the most attractive games out there. However, looks aren't everything. If I wanted flashy graphics I'd own a PS3. Same thing attracted me to Valiant. Very good art, great stories, a sense of continuity, and "realism." I haven't read much for new comics because most don't have all 4 of those.

As I said on other posts, I hope VEI ends up with the trademarks. If they don't I am confident that Valiant can still return. We are all bashing the ashcan. No, the art is not good. But how can we judge what, IF ANYTHING, they have planned from some characters sketches.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:08 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
ThrillKillWill wrote:
Tim Petty wrote:You know in a way, VIP not having their own website is going to kill them. Let's say someone picked up the ashcan and was interested enough to look up Valiant on the web. Naturally they're going to come here, and what they'll find sure isn't going to convince them to support VIP.

Oh, btw....I was talking about this subject to my LCS owner today and he (being an old Valiant fan) told me there was no way he'd stock the VIP titles.

cool.
I was going to talk to my LCS owner tomorrow and respectfully ask that he not carry the product. Shouldn't be a problem sice I had to beg him to get the HC in, and then he only got three (two of which are mine).
There is nothing to stock, no solicitations for anything to stock, no ideas to create anything to stock, all there is is a photocopied book of drawings.

I meant for furture reference, not right now. We had a long talk (not about this particular subject) the other day about DUs and what went wrong with those companies. All I am saying is that I just want him to know what is going on and hope that he will understand the situation...... Now that you mention it I have nothing to say to him on the subject, really. You're right.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:10 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:what was that pesky thing called?

You know, the one that's like on this list of... "amendments"... it says something about how people are free to say whatever the hell they damn well please.... or words to that effect.
I didn't think you guys had invented rights yet in Mexico.

heh

It's my understanding that laws like that one apply on msg boards and chat rooms like this one and that foreigners like me are protected as if we were turists.