BWS got me into Valiant,Did a certain artist grab your atten

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:34 am

Probably my fav comic artist is Barry Widsor-Smith....because of seeing his art on some early Valiant books is what made me fall in love with this universe!

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:36 am

Yeah, all those IMAGE artists turned me to VALIANT.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:55 am

BWS has a very distinct style and did a lot of great stuff for Valiant. The Unity #0 cover will always be one of my favs.

Justice41 · Post by **Justice41** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:08 pm

First book I bought was the Archer and Armstrong numero uno issue. I've always liked BWS. When he did his stint at the Ultraverse for Malibu I bought those books too.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:35 pm

While I did love the art on those early Valiants, it was really the stories and the writing that attracted me.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:53 pm

Justice41 wrote:First book I bought was the Archer and Armstrong numero uno issue. I've always liked BWS. When he did his stint at the Ultraverse for Malibu I bought those books too.

His Rune character never appealed to me very much.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:41 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Justice41 wrote:First book I bought was the Archer and Armstrong numero uno issue. I've always liked BWS. When he did his stint at the Ultraverse for Malibu I bought those books too.
His Rune character never appealed to me very much.

Oh I did, but what a pile of hot crap on the side of the road that Venom VS. Rune was, that art was horrific!!!

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:49 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Justice41 wrote:First book I bought was the Archer and Armstrong numero uno issue. I've always liked BWS. When he did his stint at the Ultraverse for Malibu I bought those books too.
His Rune character never appealed to me very much.

I enjoyed the look and feel of early Rune.

But for VALIANT, I am embarrassed to admit that I missed the books amidst the flshy image 'hot artist' days. I am trying to rectify my collection now of course...

Had I then had the sensibilities I have now, then it would have been BWS and Bob Hall primarily.

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:00 am

To me Solar and BWS go hand in hand, always will.

buff-beardo · Post by **buff-beardo** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:44 pm

When I first got into VALIANT, David Lapham was my favorite artist. Unfortunately, I didn't start reading VALIANT until right after Unity so I wasn't able to enjoy his talents for very long on these books. I also loved BWS in Eternal Warrior 6-7 and Bernard Chang in Hard Corps Corps 5.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:45 pm

Rufusharley wrote:To me Solar and BWS go hand in hand, always will.

Ditto, no one captured the feel quite like he did.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:48 pm

leonmallett wrote:But for VALIANT, I am embarrassed to admit that I missed the books amidst the flshy image 'hot artist' days. I am trying to rectify my collection now of course...

It's a shame you missed out back then, it was a magic moment for comic fans. I always liken it to Marvel entering the superhero universe back in the early sixties.

Zool · Post by **Zool** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:38 pm

The artist I got my 'first taste' of during Valiant that really stuck was Rags Morales, his Turok was amazing and I seem to recall a Shadowman one off (with Jack fighting a guy in his own dreams) drawn by Rags that blew me away.

Not a key figure in Valiant, but a great artist.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:46 pm

Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:48 pm

The artists that got me into comic books were Jim Lee on Uncanny X-Men & Wilce Portacio on X-Factor.

BWS got me into Valiant with Archer & Armstrong 0

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:11 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.

It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:45 am

leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?

Not really, I believe it was a mistake to push Geoff to the side in favor of the Hippie, but the character just never settled well we me regardless.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:52 am

leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?

You're kidding me right? You're saying that if Psi-Lords was...say...published by a different comic book company....it would somehow be better?

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:53 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?
Not really, I believe it was a mistake to push Geoff to the side in favor of the Hippie, but the character just never settled well we me regardless.

Agreed

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:55 am

cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?
You're kidding me right? You're saying that if Psi-Lords was...say...published by a different comic book company....it would somehow be better?

It would have fit right in with the majority of image products from that time...

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:30 am

cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?
You're kidding me right? You're saying that if Psi-Lords was...say...published by a different comic book company....it would somehow be better?

Not better, but better received. Think of the crap the big two were able to churn out at the time with their sales figures.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:10 pm

myron wrote:
cobra_commander wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Rags was great, but I hated to see his talent being used on stuff like that cruddy Geomancer series. I still love the artwork, but what a waste of talent when he could've been used for some of the other great characters instead.
It wasn't the greatest series I'll agree, but I felt Rags' art raised it up. I probably enjoyed it more than say Psi-Lords. Isn't part of the problem that the core titles were so strong others seem weaker by natural comparison?

On a side note, and as an open question out of curiosity, would your opinion of the series be different if we hadn't already had the character of Geoff McHenry?
You're kidding me right? You're saying that if Psi-Lords was...say...published by a different comic book company....it would somehow be better?
It would have fit right in with the majority of image products from that time...

That seemed to be their big gameplan after they fired Jim. More flash and less substance....

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:18 pm

Heath wrote:While I did love the art on those early Valiants, it was really the stories and the writing that attracted me.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm

Fav. BWS covers are -- ETERNAL WARRIOR #6 & 7 - UNITY #0 - SOLAR #10

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:28 pm

Squirrel wrote:Fav. BWS covers are -- ETERNAL WARRIOR #6 & 7 - UNITY #0 - SOLAR #10

Heh,heh.. Solar 10, easiest money he ever made.