And the cheapest VALIANT books right now have got to be...

[cobra_commander]

Magnus Robot Fighter

http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnus-Robot-fighte ... .m14.l1318

I can't believe these books haven't moved in price. There's really no accounting for taste

Even though Magnus and Solar havent been reprinted by VEI you would hope that the renewed interest in VALIANT would mean renewed interest in these 2 books as well.

[geocarr]

But it was $12 in shipping and your up very late young man...

[Daniel Jackson]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

[cobra_commander]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

[Elveen]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

When the new books come out, I think that all of the pre-uni books will go up. I think.

[superman-prime]

Thats about cover great deal

[Elveen]

Thats about cover great deal

for sure. I missed that one. But I just HATE crazy shipping like that.

[cobra_commander]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

When the new books come out, I think that all of the pre-uni books will go up. I think.

That could be a good point. From the looks of it right now it doesn't seem like its gonna happen but if the new books are really good i hope that will wake a lot of comic book buyers up to pick up the old magnus and solars

[Elveen]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

When the new books come out, I think that all of the pre-uni books will go up. I think.

That could be a good point. From the looks of it right now it doesn't seem like its gonna happen but if the new books are really good i hope that will wake a lot of comic book buyers up to pick up the old magnus and solars

You know the complete-itsts will all come out of the woodowork when the new books come out.

[cobra_commander]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

When the new books come out, I think that all of the pre-uni books will go up. I think.

That could be a good point. From the looks of it right now it doesn't seem like its gonna happen but if the new books are really good i hope that will wake a lot of comic book buyers up to pick up the old magnus and solars

You know the complete-itsts will all come out of the woodowork when the new books come out.

I hope new fans pick it up and go back to the old issues. It really is an injustice that VALIANT books are overlooked as much as they are. ESPECIALLY Shooter and the pre-uni stuff.

[Elveen]

Even with the shipping, that's still not bad.

Yep its still a very good deal. Even with the ship its still around the same price as 3 years ago.

I think this is a bad sign too many speculators or on board right now.

Not saying everyone's a speculator. And it is true Magnus isnt getting any new stories, but still... you'd think people that actually read comics would be taking more interest in Magnus and Solar

When the new books come out, I think that all of the pre-uni books will go up. I think.

That could be a good point. From the looks of it right now it doesn't seem like its gonna happen but if the new books are really good i hope that will wake a lot of comic book buyers up to pick up the old magnus and solars

You know the complete-itsts will all come out of the woodowork when the new books come out.

I hope new fans pick it up and go back to the old issues. It really is an injustice that VALIANT books are overlooked as much as they are. ESPECIALLY Shooter and the pre-uni stuff.

I think they will. If nothing else when the new books come out, a bunch of the old delaers will bring up the pre-uni stuff.

I agree it is a shame, the books are just so good.

[nutflush76]

But it was $12 in shipping and your up very late young man...

It was $12 for insured priority shipping.

For 17 books that is not bad.

USPS Flat rate box = 9.80
USPS insurance = 11.45

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping ), Bags and boards, and packaging materials (I use bubble wrap and packing peanuts as well as packaging tape), My cost to ship these is well over $12.

I'm not sure how that qualifies as "crazy" shipping.

Everybody who likes to have their books shipped via media mail runs the risk of having their packages opend and searched by the post office since you aren't supposed to ship periodicals via media mail:

From USPS.com:

Are magazines and newspapers among the eligible items for the Media Mail price?

No. Publications authorized to be mailed as Periodicals are not eligible to be mailed as Media Mail pieces. Members of the general public may mail copies of Periodicals publications at First-Class Mail or Parcel Post prices. Bound Periodicals may be mailed at Bound Printed Matter prices; however, Bound Printed Matter prices are not available in retail lobbies. We will accept Bound Printed Matter pieces for mailing at the retail window (as well as collection boxes and letter carriers, as appropriate) when the customer pre-applies the correct postage using any of the current forms: adhesive stamps, meter strips, or pc postage.

[cobra_commander]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Everybody who likes to have their books shipped via media mail runs the risk of having their packages opend and searched by the post office since you aren't supposed to ship periodicals via media mail:

From USPS.com:

Are magazines and newspapers among the eligible items for the Media Mail price?

No. Publications authorized to be mailed as Periodicals are not eligible to be mailed as Media Mail pieces. Members of the general public may mail copies of Periodicals publications at First-Class Mail or Parcel Post prices. Bound Periodicals may be mailed at Bound Printed Matter prices; however, Bound Printed Matter prices are not available in retail lobbies. We will accept Bound Printed Matter pieces for mailing at the retail window (as well as collection boxes and letter carriers, as appropriate) when the customer pre-applies the correct postage using any of the current forms: adhesive stamps, meter strips, or pc postage.

Couple of things.

First, TPBs and prestige format books like Crapmate, Killing Joke, graphic novels like Death of Captain Marvel, etc, can all be shipped via Media Mail, as they contain no ads.

Second, the SPIRIT of the rule prohibiting periodicals is for magazines, which are paid for by advertising, and which are generally not shipped after their initial shipments. Under this spirit, current comics certainly qualify as "not allowed."

HOWEVER....

The rule does NOT address the issue of EXPIRED advertising. Obviously, ads from 1947, 1956, 1963, 1978, 1989, or 2005 is valid.

Since the issue is not addressed, many feel that old comics with advertising that is no longer valid does not fall under this prohibition, and thus qualifies for Media Mail shipping.

In any event, all comics qualify for Bound Printed Matter, but there is a weight restriction per parcel of 15 lbs.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

Because the total amount has to pass through Paypal. Paypal has to pay Visa/Mastercard/Amex, etc, on the total amount, too. Visa/MC/Amex don't care one squat about what part is merchandise and what part is S&H.

It's not free for Paypal, why would it be free for anyone else....?

[cobra_commander]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

Because the total amount has to pass through Paypal. Paypal has to pay Visa/Mastercard/Amex, etc, on the total amount, too. Visa/MC/Amex don't care one squat about what part is merchandise and what part is S&H.

It's not free for Paypal, why would it be free for anyone else....?

Shoo! Shoo, fly!

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

Because the total amount has to pass through Paypal. Paypal has to pay Visa/Mastercard/Amex, etc, on the total amount, too. Visa/MC/Amex don't care one squat about what part is merchandise and what part is S&H.

It's not free for Paypal, why would it be free for anyone else....?

Shoo! Shoo, fly!

Looks like you can't control yourself, huh....?



pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, you actually do it....

Like I said....because the money has to pass through Paypal. It is not separated into "merchandise" and "S&H".

[cobra_commander]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

Because the total amount has to pass through Paypal. Paypal has to pay Visa/Mastercard/Amex, etc, on the total amount, too. Visa/MC/Amex don't care one squat about what part is merchandise and what part is S&H.

It's not free for Paypal, why would it be free for anyone else....?

Shoo! Shoo, fly!

Looks like you can't control yourself, huh....?



pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, you actually do it....

Like I said....because the money has to pass through Paypal. It is not separated into "merchandise" and "S&H".

What is wrong with you?

'pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, you actually do it....'?

I haven't posted TO you or ABOUT you.

Are you delusional?

See above where it says Nutflush wrote and then cobra_commander wrote

Who replied after that? YOU. That means... 'pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, YOU (ZEPHYRWASHOT) actually do it....'

Same thing here

viewtopic.php?t=22561&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25

Same thing here

viewtopic.php?p=479734&highlight=#479734

I'm not talking to YOU.

What part of just don't talk to ME don't you understand?

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

After you calculate in Paypal's fees (they even charge you for the money you collect for shipping )

That is just the scam of the century how they charge you for that. WTF has shipping got to do with them?

Because the total amount has to pass through Paypal. Paypal has to pay Visa/Mastercard/Amex, etc, on the total amount, too. Visa/MC/Amex don't care one squat about what part is merchandise and what part is S&H.

It's not free for Paypal, why would it be free for anyone else....?

Shoo! Shoo, fly!

Looks like you can't control yourself, huh....?



pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, you actually do it....

Like I said....because the money has to pass through Paypal. It is not separated into "merchandise" and "S&H".

What is wrong with you?

I'm sorry, that question is best asked of you.

'pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, you actually do it....'?

I haven't posted TO you or ABOUT you.

Oh, so this:

Shoo! Shoo, fly!

Which was a direct response to my post....that was you "not posting TO me"...?

More nonsense.

Are you delusional?

Nope.

Are you capable of rational, logical thought?

See above where it says Nutflush wrote and then cobra_commander wrote

Who replied after that? YOU. That means... 'pssssst....."Ignore" only works if, you know, YOU (ZEPHYRWASHOT) actually do it....'

Are you delusional...?

Guess what, handsome: I'm NOT ignoring you. Never said I was. YOU were the one who said he was going to put ME on ignore.

Not the other way around.

So, your "logic" fails yet again.



YOU were the one who had the hissy fit, and got SOOOOOOO IRRITATED, and then said YOU were putting ME on ignore.

I never said any such thing about you.

So why are your panties all in a wad, then....?

Same thing here

viewtopic.php?t=22561&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25

Same thing here

viewtopic.php?p=479734&highlight=#479734

I'm not talking to YOU.

What part of just don't talk to ME don't you understand?

Oh, where did you ask "just don't talk to ME"....? I must have missed that. We're doing the whole "mutual ignore" thing, are we?

Because, you know, you MIGHT want to clue someone into that if that's the case. Clearly, you weren't capable of ACTUALLY ignoring me, like you claimed you were going to be doing.

If that's what you want, I'm perfectly fine with that. But...see, adults clearly state what they would like BEFORE getting *SQUEE* because someone else didn't read their mind and know what they wanted.

Grow up, child. You've said the most ridiculous, most illogical, most bizarre things, and you expect people to not challenge you on it? And when they do, you have a spastic hissy fit about it, typing how so terribly IRRITATED you are about it....? Like Yosemite Sam gets when dealing with Bugs Bunny, right.....? IRRRRRRITATED!!!!

Things were nicer when you weren't around.

(Oh, I know lots of people say the same thing about me. Doesn't make that any less true for YOU.)

But, I will be happy to ignore your inane rantings from here on in.

If you praise people for making "well thought out posts" when they state that the Catholic Church murdered Galileo, however....

[cobra_commander]

Oh, where did you ask "just don't talk to ME"....? I must have missed that. We're doing the whole "mutual ignore" thing, are we?

If that's what you want, I'm perfectly fine with that.

I will be happy to ignore your inane rantings from here on in.

Done.

[nutflush76]

Everybody who likes to have their books shipped via media mail runs the risk of having their packages opend and searched by the post office since you aren't supposed to ship periodicals via media mail:

From USPS.com:

Are magazines and newspapers among the eligible items for the Media Mail price?

No. Publications authorized to be mailed as Periodicals are not eligible to be mailed as Media Mail pieces. Members of the general public may mail copies of Periodicals publications at First-Class Mail or Parcel Post prices. Bound Periodicals may be mailed at Bound Printed Matter prices; however, Bound Printed Matter prices are not available in retail lobbies. We will accept Bound Printed Matter pieces for mailing at the retail window (as well as collection boxes and letter carriers, as appropriate) when the customer pre-applies the correct postage using any of the current forms: adhesive stamps, meter strips, or pc postage.

Couple of things.

First, TPBs and prestige format books like Crapmate, Killing Joke, graphic novels like Death of Captain Marvel, etc, can all be shipped via Media Mail, as they contain no ads.

Second, the SPIRIT of the rule prohibiting periodicals is for magazines, which are paid for by advertising, and which are generally not shipped after their initial shipments. Under this spirit, current comics certainly qualify as "not allowed."

HOWEVER....

The rule does NOT address the issue of EXPIRED advertising. Obviously, ads from 1947, 1956, 1963, 1978, 1989, or 2005 is valid.

Since the issue is not addressed, many feel that old comics with advertising that is no longer valid does not fall under this prohibition, and thus qualifies for Media Mail shipping.

In any event, all comics qualify for Bound Printed Matter, but there is a weight restriction per parcel of 15 lbs.

You are probably correct about graphic novels since they contain no ads.

However, as far as regular books go, the post office will not ship them media mail. I have had the workers at the post office shipping counters tell me this (in more than one location) and if you check on the eBay community message boards there are stories of people having their packages opened and sent back because they sent their comics via media mail.

[Elveen]

Everybody who likes to have their books shipped via media mail runs the risk of having their packages opend and searched by the post office since you aren't supposed to ship periodicals via media mail:

From USPS.com:

Are magazines and newspapers among the eligible items for the Media Mail price?

No. Publications authorized to be mailed as Periodicals are not eligible to be mailed as Media Mail pieces. Members of the general public may mail copies of Periodicals publications at First-Class Mail or Parcel Post prices. Bound Periodicals may be mailed at Bound Printed Matter prices; however, Bound Printed Matter prices are not available in retail lobbies. We will accept Bound Printed Matter pieces for mailing at the retail window (as well as collection boxes and letter carriers, as appropriate) when the customer pre-applies the correct postage using any of the current forms: adhesive stamps, meter strips, or pc postage.

Couple of things.

First, TPBs and prestige format books like Crapmate, Killing Joke, graphic novels like Death of Captain Marvel, etc, can all be shipped via Media Mail, as they contain no ads.

Second, the SPIRIT of the rule prohibiting periodicals is for magazines, which are paid for by advertising, and which are generally not shipped after their initial shipments. Under this spirit, current comics certainly qualify as "not allowed."

HOWEVER....

The rule does NOT address the issue of EXPIRED advertising. Obviously, ads from 1947, 1956, 1963, 1978, 1989, or 2005 is valid.

Since the issue is not addressed, many feel that old comics with advertising that is no longer valid does not fall under this prohibition, and thus qualifies for Media Mail shipping.

In any event, all comics qualify for Bound Printed Matter, but there is a weight restriction per parcel of 15 lbs.

You are probably correct about graphic novels since they contain no ads.

However, as far as regular books go, the post office will not ship them media mail. I have had the workers at the post office shipping counters tell me this (in more than one location) and if you check on the eBay community message boards there are stories of people having their packages opened and sent back because they sent their comics via media mail.

The crazy thing is....

I have had one PO tell me that comic books are not allowed in media mail, and one other one suggest media mail when I told them it was comic books. YOu can guess which PO I use.

Also, all of the comic books I ship, the ads are waaaaay outdated.

Maybe I just have a "good" PO.


As for the boxes opened and sent back..... I wonder if they were new comic book?

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Oh, where did you ask "just don't talk to ME"....? I must have missed that. We're doing the whole "mutual ignore" thing, are we?

If that's what you want, I'm perfectly fine with that.

I will be happy to ignore your inane rantings from here on in.

Done.

Great.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

You are probably correct about graphic novels since they contain no ads.

Well, no, not probably. It IS correct. Any book WITHOUT ads, except in-house ads that refer to other product from that publisher, automatically qualifies for Media Mail.

However, as far as regular books go, the post office will not ship them media mail. I have had the workers at the post office shipping counters tell me this (in more than one location) and if you check on the eBay community message boards there are stories of people having their packages opened and sent back because they sent their comics via media mail.

Again....it is not true that the USPS will not ship them media mail. It depends entirely on the post office doing it (which makes it clear that THEY don't really understand the rule, either.)

If you can convince your local postmaster, by showing that you're shipping and receiving comics from, say, 1997, with ads that are quite obviously expired, they will usually have no issue with it.

I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERY POSTMASTER FEELS THIS WAY.

My suggestion is, if a person is able, they should find a different post office.

In nearly 10 years buying and selling on eBay, I have never had a Media Mail package returned. Yes, I understand that it has happened. But that's on a case by case basis, and certainly not agency-wide.

http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa? ... 4413311012

This discussion has raged on that board since at least 2000, when I was taking part in it.

I suspect the people sending those comics Media Mail were sending NEW books in at least a couple of cases, but that's just a suspicion.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Everybody who likes to have their books shipped via media mail runs the risk of having their packages opend and searched by the post office since you aren't supposed to ship periodicals via media mail:

From USPS.com:

Are magazines and newspapers among the eligible items for the Media Mail price?

No. Publications authorized to be mailed as Periodicals are not eligible to be mailed as Media Mail pieces. Members of the general public may mail copies of Periodicals publications at First-Class Mail or Parcel Post prices. Bound Periodicals may be mailed at Bound Printed Matter prices; however, Bound Printed Matter prices are not available in retail lobbies. We will accept Bound Printed Matter pieces for mailing at the retail window (as well as collection boxes and letter carriers, as appropriate) when the customer pre-applies the correct postage using any of the current forms: adhesive stamps, meter strips, or pc postage.

Couple of things.

First, TPBs and prestige format books like Crapmate, Killing Joke, graphic novels like Death of Captain Marvel, etc, can all be shipped via Media Mail, as they contain no ads.

Second, the SPIRIT of the rule prohibiting periodicals is for magazines, which are paid for by advertising, and which are generally not shipped after their initial shipments. Under this spirit, current comics certainly qualify as "not allowed."

HOWEVER....

The rule does NOT address the issue of EXPIRED advertising. Obviously, ads from 1947, 1956, 1963, 1978, 1989, or 2005 is valid.

Since the issue is not addressed, many feel that old comics with advertising that is no longer valid does not fall under this prohibition, and thus qualifies for Media Mail shipping.

In any event, all comics qualify for Bound Printed Matter, but there is a weight restriction per parcel of 15 lbs.

You are probably correct about graphic novels since they contain no ads.

However, as far as regular books go, the post office will not ship them media mail. I have had the workers at the post office shipping counters tell me this (in more than one location) and if you check on the eBay community message boards there are stories of people having their packages opened and sent back because they sent their comics via media mail.

The crazy thing is....

I have had one PO tell me that comic books are not allowed in media mail, and one other one suggest media mail when I told them it was comic books. YOu can guess which PO I use.

Also, all of the comic books I ship, the ads are waaaaay outdated.

Maybe I just have a "good" PO.


As for the boxes opened and sent back..... I wonder if they were new comic book?