Who were the Valiant Characters created by.

captain1stern · Post by **captain1stern** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:33 pm

Hi, I was just curious what the offical word was on who created which characters for the Valiant Universe.

If anybody knows the details please fill me in. Thanks.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:41 pm

Archer & Armstrong: Jim Shooter, Bob Layton & Barry Windsor-Smith
Eternal Warrior: Jim Shooter, Chuck Dixon, Barry Windsor-Smith & Bob Layton
Ninjak: Mark Moretti & Joe Quesada
Rai: Jim Shooter, Bob Layton & David Lapham
Shadowman: Jim Shooter,Steve Englehart, Bob Layton & Daviid Lapham
Timewalker: Barry Windsor-Smith
XO-Manowar: Jim Shooter, Bob Layton, John Hartz

This isn't complete and the info might be wrong but to the best of my knowledge, these are the people credited most consistently.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:05 pm

Jim Shooter and Bob Layton always credited Kevin Van Hook with the creation of:

Bloodshot

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:10 pm

xodacia81 wrote: Ninjak: Mark Moretti & Joe Quesada

OOOHHH... That explains a lot.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:16 pm

I think JayJay had a lot to do with the early Valiant characters.

BWS created Darque (or at least says he did).

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:19 pm

dellamorte wrote:I think JayJay had a lot to do with the early Valiant characters.

BWS created Darque (or at least says he did).

BWS said he created Alan Moore, too, but Moore said DC stole the credit for his OWN creation.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:56 pm

-slym

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:17 pm

Pretty much Bob created everything, and everyone else tried to steal the credit.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:57 pm

dave wrote:Pretty much Bob created everything, and everyone else tried to steal the credit.

You mean Jim?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:13 pm

Who were the Valiant Characters created by?

Solar created the Valiant Universe (by extension the Valiant characters) after he destroyed his universe.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:20 pm

xodacia81 wrote:Jim Shooter and Bob Layton always credited Kevin Van Hook with the creation of:

Bloodshot

I've seen Jim say that he created Rising Spirit, which was basically Bloodshot with a different name.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:37 pm

Jim Shooter.

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:03 pm

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:15 pm

Shooter, Smooter. What did he ever do around here?

(yes, folks, that was a joke)

dave · Post by **dave** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:17 pm

If you look at how long they lasted without that guy I think it proves how little he brought to the table.

None of his books ever sold a million copies.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:20 pm

iggy101us wrote:
Who were the Valiant Characters created by?
Solar created the Valiant Universe (by extension the Valiant characters) after he destroyed his universe.

See? Now here's where MOTA could bring some "Fun" to the boards.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:22 pm

can we uncreate Moore or send him to the lost land till unity 3k

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:25 pm

superman-prime wrote:can we uncreate Moore or send him to the lost land till unity 3k

He'd just "magiK" the Dino's and we'd end up with some worse than Doctor N. It would begin the reign of "the insufferable egoist".

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:09 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
iggy101us wrote:
Who were the Valiant Characters created by?
Solar created the Valiant Universe (by extension the Valiant characters) after he destroyed his universe.
See? Now here's where MOTA could bring some "Fun" to the boards.

*whistles innocently*

-slym

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:10 pm

Hmm... did you mean dinos, or Dinos?

-slym

Mike J · Post by **Mike J** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:33 pm

dellamorte wrote:I think JayJay had a lot to do with the early Valiant characters.

BWS created Darque (or at least says he did).

Really? Not meaning it in a disrespectful way, why no credits?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:36 pm

Mike J wrote:
dellamorte wrote:I think JayJay had a lot to do with the early Valiant characters.

BWS created Darque (or at least says he did).
Really? Not meaning it in a disrespectful way, why no credits?

BWS *SQUEE* off a lot of people. Same with Janet Jackson. I will only say that of the Shooter/Smith/Layton/Jackson group, only Layton remained to "give credit".

Things that make you go

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:08 am

From the interview I did with Jim Shooter for the Solar 10 extra book.

"I pretty much made up the Geomancers on the fly. Like everything at VALIANT (all caps, always), I batted the idea around with some of the crew. JayJay Jackson and Don Perlin, in particular, were involved. JayJay contributed some thoughts. Don designed first-appearing Geomancer and insisted that he be named Geoff McHenry. He also designed Geoff’s uncle/mentor and insisted that he be named Buck McHenry. I don’t know why. When Don insisted, you didn’t argue. Besides, what he did was great.

The Eternal Warrior came about more gradually. JayJay and I discussed the idea of a hero who’d been around for a looong time—someone who had been through Hell again and again, but had the courage to stay the course. She contributed a great deal to the concept. Around the same time, we were developing Archer and Armstrong, and a lot of ideas knit together nicely. That’s one of the joys of creative work. When it’s flowing, it…flows. Confluences just happen."

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:46 am

dellamorte wrote:From the interview I did with Jim Shooter for the Solar 10 extra book.

"I pretty much made up the Geomancers on the fly. Like everything at VALIANT (all caps, always), I batted the idea around with some of the crew. JayJay Jackson and Don Perlin, in particular, were involved. JayJay contributed some thoughts. Don designed first-appearing Geomancer and insisted that he be named Geoff McHenry. He also designed Geoff’s uncle/mentor and insisted that he be named Buck McHenry. I don’t know why. When Don insisted, you didn’t argue. Besides, what he did was great.

The Eternal Warrior came about more gradually. JayJay and I discussed the idea of a hero who’d been around for a looong time—someone who had been through Hell again and again, but had the courage to stay the course. She contributed a great deal to the concept. Around the same time, we were developing Archer and Armstrong, and a lot of ideas knit together nicely. That’s one of the joys of creative work. When it’s flowing, it…flows. Confluences just happen."

Ah, those were the days.

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:02 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
dellamorte wrote:From the interview I did with Jim Shooter for the Solar 10 extra book.

"I pretty much made up the Geomancers on the fly. Like everything at VALIANT (all caps, always), I batted the idea around with some of the crew. JayJay Jackson and Don Perlin, in particular, were involved. JayJay contributed some thoughts. Don designed first-appearing Geomancer and insisted that he be named Geoff McHenry. He also designed Geoff’s uncle/mentor and insisted that he be named Buck McHenry. I don’t know why. When Don insisted, you didn’t argue. Besides, what he did was great.

The Eternal Warrior came about more gradually. JayJay and I discussed the idea of a hero who’d been around for a looong time—someone who had been through Hell again and again, but had the courage to stay the course. She contributed a great deal to the concept. Around the same time, we were developing Archer and Armstrong, and a lot of ideas knit together nicely. That’s one of the joys of creative work. When it’s flowing, it…flows. Confluences just happen."
Ah, those were the days.

that's kewl stuff there...thanks Della!