DC 52 Preview

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:30 am

Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Ok, but according to all the interviews online events like the Death of Superman (Where GL & Batman were in attendance at the funeral) - Blackest Night (Again GL & Batman (well his skull at least) were a part of and Batman was known, have taken place in the past. Yet these two characters meet for the first time in JLA #1 which is suppose to be current continuity.

Also according to the description blurb of JLA #1 (As with some other titles) - Heroes are a new thing. Alot of the descriptions of the titles make this re-whateverDCwantstocallit more like a full reboot and not the soft boot they keep claiming.

So come Sebtember I am ..... CONFUSED!

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:01 am

It's "Brand New Day" applied to the whole DC universe!!

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:47 am

Told ya so...

I picked it up too, all it did was cut my DC list even smaller.

Superman was the 1st hero... but Batman MIGHT have been a vigilante before this, so we can fit in the multiple Robins... and no one has met anyone else... except for all the stories they did meet each other in... etc etc etc.

Trying to fit 70 years into 5 was never going to work. As soon as you try and apply a REAL time scale to a major universe it isn't going to work.

It goes on and on and on.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:59 am

Glad I'm not buying this crap.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:34 pm

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/20577.html

You can get the 1,216-page $150 hardcover with all the #1 issues.

Buy the pamplets! Buy them again in hardcover format! Buy them in digital format! Buy them in TPB format after their first story arcs! Buy, buy, buy!

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:17 pm

*sigh*

I heard Identity Crisis happened too, right, so not only have all these heroes who've never met, met, even the villains have met some of the heroes' wives.

They should just scrap everything. In 5 years they could add stuff back.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:26 pm

BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Ok, but according to all the interviews online events like the Death of Superman (Where GL & Batman were in attendance at the funeral) - Blackest Night (Again GL & Batman (well his skull at least) were a part of and Batman was known, have taken place in the past. Yet these two characters meet for the first time in JLA #1 which is suppose to be current continuity.

Also according to the description blurb of JLA #1 (As with some other titles) - Heroes are a new thing. Alot of the descriptions of the titles make this re-whateverDCwantstocallit more like a full reboot and not the soft boot they keep claiming.

So come Sebtember I am ..... CONFUSED!

Were these given out in stores? Are they at SDCC?

caxiotis · Post by **caxiotis** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:38 pm

StarBrand wrote:
BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Ok, but according to all the interviews online events like the Death of Superman (Where GL & Batman were in attendance at the funeral) - Blackest Night (Again GL & Batman (well his skull at least) were a part of and Batman was known, have taken place in the past. Yet these two characters meet for the first time in JLA #1 which is suppose to be current continuity.

Also according to the description blurb of JLA #1 (As with some other titles) - Heroes are a new thing. Alot of the descriptions of the titles make this re-whateverDCwantstocallit more like a full reboot and not the soft boot they keep claiming.

So come Sebtember I am ..... CONFUSED!
Were these given out in stores? Are they at SDCC?

They were free give aways at my LCS on Wednesday. I guarantee they will be sdcc.

caxiotis · Post by **caxiotis** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:41 pm

I am also very confused about reboot? So they are starting new or not?

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:09 pm

I'm just not sure I'm gonna be keeping up with this for much longer. The GL titles have me for a little bit. Maybe. I am going to check out JL # 1, just because of what it is. Otherwise...probably not.

dhudson1 · Post by **dhudson1** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:34 pm

BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Doesn't JLA 1 occur in the past? Like 5 years ago in the new continuity.

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:59 pm

What a complete *SQUEE* joke!

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:22 am

dhudson1 wrote:
BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Doesn't JLA 1 occur in the past? Like 5 years ago in the new continuity.

Think you might be right there. Beginning of the golden age...

BruceReville · Post by **BruceReville** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:57 am

ian_house wrote:
dhudson1 wrote:
BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Doesn't JLA 1 occur in the past? Like 5 years ago in the new continuity.
Think you might be right there. Beginning of the golden age...

So then that would make about a third of the books beginning years before - while others are beginning now. Action takes place in the past - Stormwatch takes place immediately after the events of Action #1 - Green Lantern is supposed to begin in the mid-past.

Jersen · Post by **Jersen** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:54 am

So I just registered with DCBS and put in an order for 20 of the 52 #1s. I was tempted to go for the $80 package, but since I'm not going to follow all the titles, I didn't see the point. I got the ones that I found to be really interesting either for the character(s) or creative team, and some of them, like Animal Man and Swamp Thing, are really going to prompt me to do some back issue diving to get some context on the characters.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:23 am

dhudson1 wrote:
BruceReville wrote:Ok picked this up yesterday and it brings alot of things into question now about this "soft reboot" - "relaunch". There is a six page preview of JLA 1 and in it Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) meet for the first time.

Doesn't JLA 1 occur in the past? Like 5 years ago in the new continuity.

That is my understanding.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:27 am

I still remain undecided as to whether or not I will pick up some of these book, or whether I will use this as a DC jumping off point.

There are 7 or 8 titles that interest me, yet DC has made such of a convoluted mess in recent years for me (event into event into event; multiple retcon story-lines; multiple origin story-lines for the same characters,; and repeat all of the above), that I find myself really wavering in my commitment to DC as a publisher.

As a young 'un they were my preferred publisher, but today I barely recognise DC as being a line of books that grab me, and that goes back to on door and one person as far as I can tell.

DarqueArcher · Post by **DarqueArcher** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:34 pm

leonmallett wrote:I still remain undecided as to whether or not I will pick up some of these book, or whether I will use this as a DC jumping off point.

There are 7 or 8 titles that interest me, yet DC has made such of a convoluted mess in recent years for me (event into event into event; multiple retcon story-lines; multiple origin story-lines for the same characters,; and repeat all of the above), that I find myself really wavering in my commitment to DC as a publisher.

As a young 'un they were my preferred publisher, but today I barely recognise DC as being a line of books that grab me, and that goes back to on door and one person as far as I can tell.

This is the exactly opposite what DC is trying to do. They are hoping this is a jumping on point for new younger readers. But I fear what they gain in new readers will not offset what they will lose in old readers. Just my opinion.

superggraphics · Post by **superggraphics** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:59 pm

I read The New 52 Preview Book and enjoyed it. The JLA segment begins with the line caption 5 years ago and serves as the launch/reintroduction point for the new line of heroes and books. I can't wait to see and read more. Flashpoint is awesome as well in my humble opinion. As far as DC losing us older readers, they are going to lose us anyway someday as we are getting older and will eventually leave this Earth and comic book reading and collecting behind. DC are still going to be here and will need an audience of new readers to sell their characters and books to so why not take a fresh approach and see if it works?

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dave · Post by **dave** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:02 pm

caxiotis wrote:I am also very confused about reboot? So they are starting new or not?

Two words:

Yes. Sorta.

dave · Post by **dave** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:06 pm

superggraphics wrote:I read The New 52 Preview Book and enjoyed it. The JLA segment begins with the line caption 5 years ago and serves as the launch/reintroduction point for the new line of heroes and books. I can't wait to see and read more. Flashpoint is awesome as well in my humble opinion. As far as DC losing us older readers, they are going to lose us anyway someday as we are getting older and will eventually leave this Earth and comic book reading and collecting behind. DC are still going to be here and will need an audience of new readers to sell their characters and books to so why not take a fresh approach and see if it works?

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The problem here is: Not all of us are going to die on the same day. New readers is not a growing segment in the market as a whole. Losing readership to Marvel and Indies is gonna hurt.

Still, I'm gonna check out 3 DC titles and I've been reading only 1 so...

Maybe it will work.

superggraphics · Post by **superggraphics** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:49 pm

Of course we all won't die on the same day (or will we, hmmmm). Anyhoo, eventually all of us older readers and collectors will be gone and in order for DC to survive into the future and beyond, they will have to build a new audience of readers and collectors or they will eventually perish along with us. Now bring on the new Rob Liefeld Hawk and Dove!

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ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:18 am

dude...

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:19 am

superggraphics wrote:Now bring on the new Rob Liefeld Hawk and Dove!

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And with the image above, I believe I can safely say that this thread has been officially turned gay.
If anyone disagrees, the subject is up open to discussion.

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:19 pm

My point about all dying the same day was that if the older readers (or the majority of them) stop purchasing because of this reboot then it would as if they all died the same day, with no replacements.

Anyway, I don't think most people are going to boycott DC over this. I've heard people say that the will be buying less from DC though, but those are just words at this point. Sales figure will show the reality of it. I'm assuming it will do the same thing that all of their promotions do: Add some interest at first and then things will plateau and then they will throw out what they consider the bad and keep the good and do another mini reboot in 5 years.

Saw this article about the SDCC DC booth:

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/sdcc-20 ... nt=Twitter

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