CGC's latest submissions... Marvel, DC.... Valiant?!?

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:41 pm

Check out the most submitted publishers
between 12/16/2004 and 2/9/2005...
http://www.gregholland.com/CGC/customcounts.asp?t=p&r=y

Top 10 Publishers Submitted 12/16/04 to 2/9/05
1. Marvel Comics
2. D.C. Comics
3. Valiant
4. Warren Publishing (magazines)
5. Dell Publishing
6. Image Comics
7. E.C. Comics
8. Harvey Publications
9. Image/Top Cow
10. Dark Horse Comics

Too bad there's been a rash of "common book" slabbings lately...
and I'm not talking about Rai 0 either ...
I'm talking about books like Archer 21, Ninjak 14, and Geomancer 7.
(And why are people continually slabbing Turok 1? Too make them sink into the ocean easier?)
What's up with that?

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:24 pm

This is bad!

It's great that Valiant is back on people's minds but CGC slabbing is all about speculation, especially when it's post unity commons that make up the majority being slabbed...

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:27 pm

Greg, do you have the lists for previous periods? Has Valiant been slowly climbing? Always near the top? Never been on the list?

dino · Post by **dino** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:38 pm

The site's search is pretty cool, seems 500+ valiant books were slabbed in the last 3 months. It claims 20 Magnus and 15 Harbinger books but then says that 31 Harbinger Pinks were slabbed....
Any idea if these numbers are for screened or just for graded books?

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:45 pm

dino wrote:The site's search is pretty cool, seems 500+ valiant books were slabbed in the last 3 months. It claims 20 Magnus and 15 Harbinger books but then says that 31 Harbinger Pinks were slabbed....
Any idea if these numbers are for screened or just for graded books?

Those are the actual numbers for books graded between 12/16/04 and 2/9/05.
So... yes, 31 new Harbinger Pinks have been slabbed in two months.

I believe that Valiant was #4 in last month's list...
so #3 this month would be a climb...
overall, though, Valiant is only #9 as far as publisher submissions go...
http://www.gregholland.com/cgc/customcounts.asp?t=p
... and that's less than 1% of the CGC books out there.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:28 pm

Holy Guacamole!!!

I'd better get ready to sell!!!

The only way that this might be good is that I may be able to complete my 9.8 run of BWS A&As cheap!!

I know the LCSs around here have been slabbing crap like Turok 2, 3, X-0 #0 and other crap for a while. It's going to drive them out of business eventually. They are just in too much of a CGC inspired awe to realize it.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:05 pm

That sounds like good news to me! Picking up common 9.8s for pennies - tell 'em to keep slabbing them!

400yrs wrote:Holy Guacamole!!!

I'd better get ready to sell!!!

The only way that this might be good is that I may be able to complete my 9.8 run of BWS A&As cheap!!

I know the LCSs around here have been slabbing crap like Turok 2, 3, X-0 #0 and other crap for a while. It's going to drive them out of business eventually. They are just in too much of a CGC inspired awe to realize it.

greg · Post by **greg** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:27 am

Here's a new page I made on the CGC analysis site...

Valiant comics graded between 12/16/2004 and 2/9/2005 all on the same page

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:26 pm

Hey Greg,

I'm pretty sure it's been requested before, but would it be a huge pain in the neck to make some type of Valiant CGC inventory thingy. That way, we could find out what we board members own in the way of slabbed Valiants compared to what is actually out there? Nothing elaborate, mind you.

Ricomortis · Post by **Ricomortis** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:10 pm

400yrs wrote:Hey Greg,

I'm pretty sure it's been requested before, but would it be a huge pain in the neck to make some type of Valiant CGC inventory thingy. That way, we could find out what we board members own in the way of slabbed Valiants compared to what is actually out there? Nothing elaborate, mind you.

Exactly what I would like to see. I requested it when I first arrived...but...nothing.

Anyone else interested....SPEAK UP!

I second the motion.

Rico

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:27 pm

Rico, where have you been?? Making more cash to snatch up more goodies?

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:34 am

Now that I've got the regular inventory updated,
I'd say the CGC version will be next.
I have a few myself.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:38 am

Are your 10 submissions going to be of the Valiant variety?

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:43 am

400yrs wrote:

Are your 10 submissions going to be of the Valiant variety?

Do I own any worthy books that aren't of the Valiant variety?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:48 am

Well, you know own one pretty X-men 22!!!

If you get an urge to purge your comic collection of everything non-Valiant, let me know and I'll take it off your hands.

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:50 am

400yrs wrote:Well, you know own one pretty X-men 22!!!
If you get an urge to purge your comic collection of everything non-Valiant, let me know and I'll take it off your hands.

Actually, I think I have some Dr. Solar Gold Key books somewhere...
but I doubt if many of them would be above about a 5.0.
I'm thinking of having my Four Color #596 re-graded,
since I found out it was graded in the December of 2000.
I think CGC was much more "strict" on the golden age back then.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:54 am

greg wrote: I'm thinking of having my Four Color #596 re-graded,
since I found out it was graded in the December of 2000.
I think CGC was much more "strict" on the golden age back then.

That's what they say. It's a gamble though. On the other hand you've got a great opportunity to take that gamble gratis right now.

Ricomortis · Post by **Ricomortis** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:45 pm

400yrs wrote:Rico, where have you been?? Making more cash to snatch up more goodies?

Well 400,

I work in the oilfield and if you can imagine with $51 oil.... I am a TAD bit busy. lol

Hope to build the collection....as a matter of fact...I'll be trading some commons, pre-unities and such for get this....commons that I need. Who wouldn't want to jump all over that? Trade commons for pre-unity? lol oh well...

lurking for goodies....mmmmm.....v a l i a n t ........<drools uncontrollably>

Rico

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:00 pm

Rico's back, and he's got cash

Quick, everyone jack-up your prices

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:43 am

greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:Well, you know own one pretty X-men 22!!!
If you get an urge to purge your comic collection of everything non-Valiant, let me know and I'll take it off your hands.
Actually, I think I have some Dr. Solar Gold Key books somewhere...
but I doubt if many of them would be above about a 5.0.
I'm thinking of having my Four Color #596 re-graded,
since I found out it was graded in the December of 2000.
I think CGC was much more "strict" on the golden age back then.

Isnt that book already the highest graded copy? Do you really need to get it regraded right now?

I guess if it isnt the highest copy grade away, but I would wait if it is the highest graded copy...

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:56 am

DawgPhan wrote:Isnt that book already the highest graded copy? Do you really need to get it regraded right now?

I guess if it isnt the highest copy grade away, but I would wait if it is the highest graded copy...

It was the highest graded copy... tied with another book at CGC 8.5.
Then... a CGC 9.0 showed up and made me jealous.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:41 am

greg wrote:
DawgPhan wrote:Isnt that book already the highest graded copy? Do you really need to get it regraded right now?

I guess if it isnt the highest copy grade away, but I would wait if it is the highest graded copy...
It was the highest graded copy... tied with another book at CGC 8.5.
Then... a CGC 9.0 showed up and made me jealous.

Alrighty then...Reslab...Do you think that a pressing could get the book to be slightly higher? I guess that you can contact matt or susan with the graders notes and see if you could pick up a point or 2...that along with the now more lenient grading on goldens would probably put you in the top spot again...maye even into the NM area...

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:01 am

DawgPhan wrote:
greg wrote:
DawgPhan wrote:Isnt that book already the highest graded copy? Do you really need to get it regraded right now?

I guess if it isnt the highest copy grade away, but I would wait if it is the highest graded copy...
It was the highest graded copy... tied with another book at CGC 8.5.
Then... a CGC 9.0 showed up and made me jealous.
Alrighty then...Reslab...Do you think that a pressing could get the book to be slightly higher? I guess that you can contact matt or susan with the graders notes and see if you could pick up a point or 2...that along with the now more lenient grading on goldens would probably put you in the top spot again...maye even into the NM area...

Right now, I'm not a fan of pressing... seems like restoration to me...
even though I can see a big difference between pressing without disassembly,
and pressing with disassembly.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:16 am

Yeah I can see that. I think that with full disclosure it is fine. The only problem with non-disasembly pressing is the inability to detect it. If no one can detect it there will never be discolsure of it. Now if you wanted to get this book pressed because you want your copy to look as good as it can then I see nothing wrong with that...of course this is a little OT. I doubt that we will get the pressing debates on here like we get on cgc.

If I was buying a high dollar book I would like to know if it was pressed, but other than that it doesnt really bother me.

But even with a resub you might give the 9.0 a run for its money..

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:19 am

In theory, pressing might be a good idea for a book that is "mid-grade"...
but it's hard to justify "possible restoration" on a top grade book.
It would be too easy to do more harm than good.