Divinity II #4 Discussion

[JCP]

This was a very interesting conclusion to the series and was very enjoyable. All around great art, penciling, and coloring. I have to admit, I forgot all about Kazmir,but went back to issue #1 and should have realized he was still alive. He wasn't on my radar at all. Sure enough, Kazmir's eyes indicate he too has become like Abram and Mishka and imagine being a battery used in the way he was by Mishka! Since he had a romantic interest in Mishka I wonder how that will work out when we see him come back and Mishka has changed.

I'm also curious to see the outcome of what was going on with the Russian currency on Neville's desk. Very interesting.

It's going to be tough waiting until December for the next series.

Any ideas on who the old man with the mustache was?

Hopfully VEI's movie slate does well to the point we can get a Divinity series. Matt Kindt and company deserve a raucous round of applause.

[jmatt]

Not sure how I feel about it. My gut says "meh" but I'm not sure what I should have expected. That had to be the first battle between demi-gods that was resolved with a re-telling of a Dostoyevski novel.

I do like that the resolution involved her embracing herself as an individual rather than a cog in some larger geo-political machination.

Is it just me, or did Myshka have a very male face right up until they embraced as friends? That had me confused for the first few panels.

I took mustache man to just be a rural Russian farmer.

I'm pretty sure "Abrams's eyes" is bad grammar. The widely accepted rule is that you only add the second "s" if you would normally pronounce it that way. "Abrams' eyes" seems more correct to me. But in some cases where it is pronounced that way, you add the 's'. As in "the boss's car".

[Psiot X]

Not sure how I feel about it. My gut says "meh" but I'm not sure what I should have expected. That had to be the first battle between demi-gods that was resolved with a re-telling of a Dostoyevski novel.

I do like that the resolution involved her embracing herself as an individual rather than a cog in some larger geo-political machination.

Is it just me, or did Myshka have a very male face right up until they embraced as friends? That had me confused for the first few panels.

I took mustache man to just be a rural Russian farmer.

I'm pretty sure "Abrams's eyes" is bad grammar. The widely accepted rule is that you only add the second "s" if you would normally pronounce it that way. "Abrams' eyes" seems more correct to me. But in some cases where it is pronounced that way, you add the 's'. As in "the boss's car".

I know that a higher degree of professionalism is expected from a commercial product. It's just that considering the nature of this story you have been corrupted by Mishka's touch and verge upon becoming a Grammar Stalinist. I was half sleeping reading this and need to look at it again. There is a lot to be written about the shift from being an ideologue tool into a self determined, free thinking, person particularly in today's world where radicalism for one cause or another is a societal cancer sickening otherwise progressive ideals in some cases.

I personally love the Divinity series and consider it one of comic's great works right now, more worthy of a film than some other properties. The ending? Well, maybe it's that I wanted something more firm in plot than so enamored in a particular character. I am not saying it's bad just a differing direction than my eyes were pulled.

Edit: Regardless of the interior art, this manages to be one of my favorite covers of all time.

[Manaf82]

I am surprised nobody has talked about the fact that Divinity is an analogue of solar,Myshka of mother god and finally Kazmir of Dr.Eclipse..The three Divinities..


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[JCP]

I am surprised nobody has talked about the fact that Divinity is an analogue of solar,Myshka of mother god and finally Kazmir of Dr.Eclipse..The three Divinities..


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Solid note. Fred Bender was left to die in the desert by Solar and proved to be a difficult foe after Darque gave him powers. Let's see how bad Kazmir ends up.

[jmatt]

...becoming a Grammar Stalinist.

Guilty as charged. While not one with board members here on the forum, I do expect proper spelling and punctuation in a commercial product. I mean, for Pete's sake they called the EW "Gilard" in his last issue. It's nitpicking, to be sure.

While the end of the arc was a little touching and ended in a friendly sort of way, I was hoping the resolution would pack more punch. Sure, there was plenty of ineffective energy blasts and slamming each other through buildings but I guess I was expecting a resolution more cosmic than literary.

"I converted her/his essence to a photon cloud and sent it to the heart of the sun, where it will spend the next billion years fighting its way to the surface." Or something. Not that it would take a billion years, their reappearance in Divinity 3 would be explained equally as cosmic: "I absorbed enough energy to convert my form to a neutrino base and passed almost effortlessly from the core."

I suppose one could say it's more clever to resolve it in a non-cosmic way, but you go to a ballgame to see the home runs, not the seventh inning stretch. When you're writing a cosmic comic book, "ya dance with the one what brung ya."

But I enjoyed it and I'm sure they have reasons for making them pals instead of foes.

[grendeljd]

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[Psiot X]

Oh, forgive the Russian romantic in me, but if that farmer really just happened to be Kazmir coming back to be with Mishka after she found herself because he loves her... Just wow. That's sweet and touching.

[jmatt]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this. But we just saw Divinity alter history!

[dornwolf]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this. But we just saw Divinity alter history!

True but it was a very small bit of history. Just enough to save everything mind you.

[greg]

I'm pretty sure "Abrams's eyes" is bad grammar. The widely accepted rule is that you only add the second "s" if you would normally pronounce it that way. "Abrams' eyes" seems more correct to me. But in some cases where it is pronounced that way, you add the 's'. As in "the boss's car".

You might be correct that Abrams's is bad grammar, but you're wrong about your solution.

His name is Abram. It should be Abram's.

[jmatt]

I'm pretty sure "Abrams's eyes" is bad grammar. The widely accepted rule is that you only add the second "s" if you would normally pronounce it that way. "Abrams' eyes" seems more correct to me. But in some cases where it is pronounced that way, you add the 's'. As in "the boss's car".

You might be correct that Abrams's is bad grammar, but you're wrong about your solution.

His name is Abram. It should be Abram's.

See? We all need an editor!

I guess I had Adams in mind, and I'll bet so did whoever authored the flap content.

[sonicdan]

I'm also curious to see the outcome of what was going on with the Russian currency on Neville's desk. Very interesting.

I thought that was interesting too. Perhaps reality has already altered to Stalin-verse and we don't know it yet.

[Dallow Spicer1]

A subtle end to the series for sure. I enjoyed it and it certainly wasn't predictable. Not sure I'm entirely buying that Myshka would flip from bad to good based on a minor act of kindness from her past? but I enjoyed that Abrams went back in time to influence that moment. Was Myshka wealthy at that stage of her life when she received the necklace (after she was adopted)? Maybe I'll need to go back and read issue #1 again.

Enough threads at the end to make Divinity III something to anticipate.

I like Hairsines's ( ) art but I agree with Jmatt that Myshka looked facially quite masculine for the first few pages but it didn't bother me too much.

4/5 - bring on Divinity III

[DirtbagSailor]

My published review:

http://all-comic.com/2016/divinity-ii-4/

[agent_graves]

I read this the day it was released, but I'm so behind overall on my Valiant reading that I hadn't posted my thoughts in awhile. I was a little surprised how it ended, knowing where we're headed with StalinVerse, Abram was able to revert things, by changing the way in which events took place in history, but we kind of already know that, Myskas' inner peace won't last long.

[nutflush76]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this. But we just saw Divinity alter history!

Did he, in fact, alter history? Or just Mishka's recollection of it?

Also, I think that this particular way of ending the series sets up a potential conflict between Abram and Mishka in the future. With all of the mind readers like Harada, and possibly even Kazmir, running around, one of them is going to uncover the fact that Abram deceived her.

[QUARTZ]

Definitely a lot of hints at the end that the whole timeline is still astray. I liked this series but I think I enjoyed reading through the first more. IDK, I will have to mull over it a bit.