Do you think Archer could channel Divinity's powers?

[Thegreatmagnet]

It seems that he can tap into the expertise of anyone in the human population, assuming Abram is still human.

Also, granted that Archer's not been tapping into many special powers recently...

[Shadowman99]

It seems that he can tap into the expertise of anyone in the human population, assuming Abram is still human.

Also, granted that Archer's not been tapping into many special powers recently...

It's true, we all know what Archer's been tapping lately

[Keith]

It seems that he can tap into the expertise of anyone in the human population, assuming Abram is still human.

Also, granted that Archer's not been tapping into many special powers recently...

It's true, we all know what Archer's been tapping lately

Heyooooooooohhhhhh!!!!!

So my thoughts on the OP question... No. IMO, Archer can mimic any human skill, including psiot abilities. Divinity is so unnatural, so Beyond, that Archer wouldn't be able to do what he does. He might be able to mimic some applicable skills, but not to the degree and ability that Divinity can.

I think the question had already been posed "Could Archer mimic Toyo Harada or Pete Stanchek." The answer there is Yes. The follow up question is then "would he be able to handle it?" And I'd say the answer is No.

[BugsySig]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

[Watchtower]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

Let's make it easier: The Akashic Records are the sum of subconscious human knowledge. It would make sense, then, that it wouldn't have access to anything inhuman.

Which means Archer wouldn't be able to access, say, the Vine collective, for example.

(Not that he'd want to, anyway. He seems perfectly fine sticking to martial arts.)

[Psiot X]

It just occurred to me to wonder if the fact that a Black Russian is the most powerful force in the valiant universe is an intentional double entendre. You know - Black Russian?

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[Thegreatmagnet]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

Let's make it easier: The Akashic Records are the sum of subconscious human knowledge. It would make sense, then, that it wouldn't have access to anything inhuman.

Which means Archer wouldn't be able to access, say, the Vine collective, for example.

(Not that he'd want to, anyway. He seems perfectly fine sticking to martial arts.)

Agreed. I think the pertinent questions are, what exactly is the nature of Abram's power set, and is he no longer sufficiently human to be connected to the Akashic record?

[slack]

What about magic? Most magic use is based on knowledge of magic and how it works.... Maybe he could use the powers of the shadow seven... Or Darque.

Considering his upbringing, he'd probably have developed an unconscious block on magic... Considering it to be the devil's playground.

Someday, he might access that part of human knowledge.

[Shadowman99]

This thread is cool

[Keith]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

Spot on, Bugsy. My theory completely ignored the concept of the Akashic Record. I'm going with your answer.

[jmatt]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

[Shadowman99]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

I'd say so, makes sense to me.

[BugsySig]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

But do psiots even know how their powers work? Like in terms of brain functions/biology?

[jmatt]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

But do psiots even know how their powers work? Like in terms of brain functions/biology?

Do they need to? Archer can fight like a kung fu master. Does a kung fu master understand what he does in terms of brain function/biology? Or does he just know how to do it after years of practice?

The akashic record is the sum of all human knowledge, not all human science.

[Shadowman99]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

But do psiots even know how their powers work? Like in terms of brain functions/biology?

Do they need to? Archer can fight like a kung fu master. Does a kung fu master understand what he does in terms of brain function/biology? Or does he just know how to do it after years of practice?

The akashic record is the sum of all human knowledge, not all human science.

Agreed.

[BugsySig]

I believe Archer can only download Psiot powers that have been mapped by PRS for their HARD Corps program. He's not a mimic. He downloads abilities from the akashic record, which is the sum of all human knowledge. If powers are not understood as a specific brain area/patters/etc, then he can't access that because its unknown to human knowledge.

That's a tad too specific but I get your point. Though, if it's the sum of all human knowledge wouldn't that also include the knowledge of the individuals who possess said powers themselves?

But do psiots even know how their powers work? Like in terms of brain functions/biology?

Do they need to? Archer can fight like a kung fu master. Does a kung fu master understand what he does in terms of brain function/biology? Or does he just know how to do it after years of practice?

The akashic record is the sum of all human knowledge, not all human science.

True, but one can look up/study kung fu over decades. Archer's psiot powers just give him the ability to download all that knowledge at once. My only argument is that something needs to be understood for it to be part of "human knowledge."

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

It's one thing to learn to drive a car, it's another thing to become a car (or, in this case, build one ).

[jmatt]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

[Keith]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

Just less sexy.

[BugsySig]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

I'm referring only to psiot abilities. That requires a change in brain function/structure beyond something like lock picking or a martial art. That's how I reconcile how psiot abilities are available in the Akashic record.

[Shadowman99]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

I'm referring only to psiot abilities. That requires a change in brain function/structure beyond something like lock picking or a martial art. That's how I reconcile how psiot abilities are available in the Akashic record.

I dunno, does it though? That's really super nitty-gritty, and typically far beyond any level explanation that's going to be provided in a comic usually. As far as I know that's not really been specifically stated, so I think it's just your theory isn't it?

I agree with Jmatt, my impression is that Archer's abilities have far surpassed anything that PRS must have initially thought they were loading him up with. I think his ability to access the Akashic Record is basically so far removed from his PRS-given abilities that it's to all intents and purposes completely seperate. Just my take on it

[BugsySig]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

I'm referring only to psiot abilities. That requires a change in brain function/structure beyond something like lock picking or a martial art. That's how I reconcile how psiot abilities are available in the Akashic record.

I dunno, does it though? That's really super nitty-gritty, and typically far beyond any level explanation that's going to be provided in a comic usually. As far as I know that's not really been specifically stated, so I think it's just your theory isn't it?

I agree with Jmatt, my impression is that Archer's abilities have far surpassed anything that PRS must have initially thought they were loading him up with. I think his ability to access the Akashic Record is basically so far removed from his PRS-given abilities that it's to all intents and purposes completely seperate. Just my take on it

Yes, just my theory, though we discussed it in depth back when A&A: Archer #0 came out.

PRS activated his psiot ability to access the Akashic record. So they are one in the same as far as I can tell. He just lost the ability to access psiot powers when his memory was wiped.

[nonplayer]

Short answer "No"
It's not a phsiot power it's a alien flower pollen or some squee.

[Shadowman99]

Short answer "No"
It's not a phsiot power it's a alien flower pollen or some squee.

[Shadowman99]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

I'm referring only to psiot abilities. That requires a change in brain function/structure beyond something like lock picking or a martial art. That's how I reconcile how psiot abilities are available in the Akashic record.

I dunno, does it though? That's really super nitty-gritty, and typically far beyond any level explanation that's going to be provided in a comic usually. As far as I know that's not really been specifically stated, so I think it's just your theory isn't it?

I agree with Jmatt, my impression is that Archer's abilities have far surpassed anything that PRS must have initially thought they were loading him up with. I think his ability to access the Akashic Record is basically so far removed from his PRS-given abilities that it's to all intents and purposes completely seperate. Just my take on it

Yes, just my theory, though we discussed it in depth back when A&A: Archer #0 came out.

PRS activated his psiot ability to access the Akashic record. So they are one in the same as far as I can tell. He just lost the ability to access psiot powers when his memory was wiped.

Well, your memory is clearly better than mine on this one

[BugsySig]

Think of it as a two-part system...I doubt Torque knows how his brain creates a psionic hard-shell projection around his body (though he may learn how to use it over time). But PRS has determined how that ability is created in the brain, therefore allowing Archer to download that information and recreate that ability in his own brain. PRS's psiot mapping allows archer to have the power, Torque's (or whomever's) experience with it allows Archer to use it competently.

I guess my question is why you keep focusing on PRS. Archer can access many abilities that having nothing to do with them.

This is like the Bang Bang Theory girls arguing about the ability to pick up Thor's Hammer.

I'm referring only to psiot abilities. That requires a change in brain function/structure beyond something like lock picking or a martial art. That's how I reconcile how psiot abilities are available in the Akashic record.

I dunno, does it though? That's really super nitty-gritty, and typically far beyond any level explanation that's going to be provided in a comic usually. As far as I know that's not really been specifically stated, so I think it's just your theory isn't it?

I agree with Jmatt, my impression is that Archer's abilities have far surpassed anything that PRS must have initially thought they were loading him up with. I think his ability to access the Akashic Record is basically so far removed from his PRS-given abilities that it's to all intents and purposes completely seperate. Just my take on it

Yes, just my theory, though we discussed it in depth back when A&A: Archer #0 came out.

PRS activated his psiot ability to access the Akashic record. So they are one in the same as far as I can tell. He just lost the ability to access psiot powers when his memory was wiped.

Well, your memory is clearly better than mine on this one

Naw. I just downloaded it from the Akashic record.