Geomancer

[jedimarley]

While on vac. I re-read Geomancer (Thanks KC).
And to tell the truth it was a pretty good read. It could have used some tweaking here and there but IMO was a good series.
Why did Valiant give up on this book?

[Daniel Jackson]

I would imagine because nobody was buying it. Valiant screwed up royally by getting rid of Geoff in the first place. Personally, I never cared for Clay McHenry or anything they tried to do with him.

[whetteon]

I thought half of the fans though Geoff was a whinny little runt. He never bothered me but that's probably because he was about my age when I started to read the books so his whinnyness was in par with mine. Can anyone confirm or deny that this is the reason they canned Geoff?

[myron]

I thought half of the fans though Geoff was a whinny little runt. He never bothered me but that's probably because he was about my age when I started to read the books so his whinnyness was in par with mine. Can anyone confirm or deny that this is the reason they canned Geoff?

think it was just poor writing... ...he was at least interesting at times...even though whiney

[Todd Luck]

While on vac. I re-read Geomancer (Thanks KC).
And to tell the truth it was a pretty good read. It could have used some tweaking here and there but IMO was a good series.
Why did Valiant give up on this book?

It was a new book that was only moderately hyped (unlike the Visitor that drowned us in hype) and they wanted to use Rags Morales else where.

I liked issues 1-3 a lot but after that they kind of squandered all that wonderful potential they had set up. But the historical prologs (like in Eternal Warrior) where always fascinating no matter how much I disliked the other 18-19 pages and make the entire series worth getting of a cheap discount bin.

It still has the most intrigueing sub-plots that was never dealt with in VH-1: Who was the mysterious necromancer in issues 1-3? He seemed like like he had a lot of potential...

[myron]

absolutely! tons of potential left on the board there...could (have) be(en) a great supplemental guide to EW as well...

[Manowar Class]

I agree with most of you. Lots of unused potential. Nice artwork. Never should have canned Geoff (he wasn't THAT bad)...he ended up growing up quickly in certain Unity issues, but was pretty helpless outside of that cool ability to talk to the earth and its objects! On the whole, not a bad read. I enjoyed them.

I thought it was almost funny that Clay almost died in the first issue. I mean, what other company could do that and get away with it? Valiant used the fact that they were so new and could do anything with characters that hadn't been around for decades to do things such as kill Rai and the entire orbiting planet-nation of Japan in Unity(!), to Kill Rai at the end of the Malev War, to almost kill Shadowman and Aric in Unity. They make these and numerous other drastic events occur within such a relatively short timeframe that you always kept wondering what would happen next. Even revealing the deaths of pivotal figures in Rai#0 only heightened what was to come! You got to watch it build to it (even thought the execution may not have been what we hoped for in later valiant).Valiant would have gone to the top if Shooter had stayed on board! Those were exciting times...

[Elveen]

So I read Goemancer 1-3 yesterday for the first time... and wanted to post about it.... so I searched for this old thread so Jedi and Slym would not have to "gently" tell me find the old thread in the re-reading section... so...

I liked issues 1-3 a lot but after that they kind of squandered all that wonderful potential they had set up. But the historical prologs (like in Eternal Warrior) where always fascinating no matter how much I disliked the other 18-19 pages and make the entire series worth getting of a cheap discount bin.
.

I am with Todd here, I loved the historical prologues... I wish VALIANT did more books like this...

I will also say that overall, it's not bad... I wish he was not blind, that just seemed dumb to me... and that he was not "Immage" buff, but alas... I have liked the first few books...

It still has the most intrigueing sub-plots that was never dealt with in VH-1: Who was the mysterious necromancer in issues 1-3? He seemed like like he had a lot of potential...

So this bums me out... if that bad guy is not in any of the books, bad Valiant! I though he had big time potential... he even mentioned he was an enemy of Darque.... I love it when two bad guys battle it out, you know cause bad guys are not always on the same side,

I have another few issue of Geo. to read so I hope they are as good (is that the right phrase?) as the first few.

Overall good read.

[myron]

So I read Goemancer 1-3 yesterday for the first time... and wanted to post about it.... so I searched for this old thread so Jedi and Slym would not have to "gently" tell me find the old thread in the re-reading section... so...

I liked issues 1-3 a lot but after that they kind of squandered all that wonderful potential they had set up. But the historical prologs (like in Eternal Warrior) where always fascinating no matter how much I disliked the other 18-19 pages and make the entire series worth getting of a cheap discount bin.
.

I am with Todd here, I loved the historical prologues... I wish VALIANT did more books like this...

I will also say that overall, it's not bad... I wish he was not blind, that just seemed dumb to me... and that he was not "Immage" buff, but alas... I have liked the first few books...

It still has the most intrigueing sub-plots that was never dealt with in VH-1: Who was the mysterious necromancer in issues 1-3? He seemed like like he had a lot of potential...

So this bums me out... if that bad guy is not in any of the books, bad VALIANT! I though he had big time potential... he even mentioned he was an enemy of Darque.... I love it when two bad guys battle it out, you know cause bad guys are not always on the same side,

I have another few issue of Geo. to read so I hope they are as good (is that the right phrase?) as the first few.

Overall good read.

all in all yup...just not on par with pre-unity/unity...but better than Psi-Chotics (lords)

[tarheelmarine]

I thought half of the fans though Geoff was a whinny little runt. He never bothered me but that's probably because he was about my age when I started to read the books so his whinnyness was in par with mine. Can anyone confirm or deny that this is the reason they canned Geoff?

I thought there was something in a book that mentioned geoff disappearing and that he was supposed to reappear at some point in the universe.

[The Zodfather]

I just read EW 28 and GM 1-4...I dug it more than I thought I would, especially EW 28 but I thouhgt the latter issues lost something, like they were afraid of delving into the mythos too quickly so they put a halt in exploring the interesting aspects. I never read it until now because i thought the canning of Geof was a bad move. Personally I think The whole Geomancer concept was not desrving of an on going, but might have done well as a 12 issue maxi series that explored the history and rituals. I think Geoff was written off and Clay brought in because Geoff couldnt really survive fights on his own month after month so they created a tougher Geomancer
The Zodfather

[Heath]

I think after Shooter left, nobody really knew how to write Geoff or what to do with him, so they replaced him. Personally, I hated that decision and hated Clay.

[slym2none]

Hey, there is nothing wrong with starting a thread, although if there is one already with that subject, there is also nothing wrong with bumping an old thread!





-slym (liked Geoff because he was slightly insane)

[tarheelmarine]

I think after Shooter left, nobody really knew how to write Geoff or what to do with him, so they replaced him. Personally, I hated that decision and hated Clay.

I think that sums it up.

[The Flyattractor]

I have one question and one hunch about Geomancer.
Geoff. How are you supposed to pronounce his name? Is it GEE OFF,or is it supposed to sound like Jeff?
ANd as for the Other Necormancer.
I sorta wondred if it was Bolo from the early EW story.
Sorta looked like him.

[Daniel Jackson]

I always pronounce it the same as Jeff.

[cobra_commander]

I always pronounce it the same as Jeff.

I pronounce it with a hard G. So Gee-off! Kind of like a drunk Scottish chick who's receiving unwanted male advances

[The Flyattractor]

.....ok. I was gonna make a joke about your cat sig,but I aint sure if we can get away with that kinda crap here so I will just do this.

[leonmallett]

I have one question and one hunch about Geomancer.
Geoff. How are you supposed to pronounce his name? Is it GEE OFF,or is it supposed to sound like Jeff?
ANd as for the Other Necormancer.
I sorta wondred if it was Bolo from the early EW story.
Sorta looked like him.

In the UK we pronounce Jeff and Geoff the same (similarly Jeffrey and Geoffrey).

About the book - I enjoyed it and didn't think it was too bad. I have read much worse from that time in comics. I would like the Geomancer concept to play a sunsatntive part in a new VALIANT. And even though it may bring brickbats my way, I thought Clay was an interesting character because of his flaws.

[siren3-4]

I have one question and one hunch about Geomancer.
Geoff. How are you supposed to pronounce his name? Is it GEE OFF,or is it supposed to sound like Jeff?
ANd as for the Other Necormancer.
I sorta wondred if it was Bolo from the early EW story.
Sorta looked like him.

In the UK we pronounce Jeff and Geoff the same (similarly Jeffrey and Geoffrey).

About the book - I enjoyed it and didn't think it was too bad. I have read much worse from that time in comics. I would like the Geomancer concept to play a sunsatntive part in a new VALIANT. And even though it may bring brickbats my way, I thought Clay was an interesting character because of his flaws.

I've honestly never given this character a chance.

I hated all the changes happening and it really turned me off to reading some of the books. I still bought everything (loyalty was always important to me) but I will now put them on my reading list.

It at least sounds like this title was above average compared to some of the other drek.

[myron]

I have one question and one hunch about Geomancer.
Geoff. How are you supposed to pronounce his name? Is it GEE OFF,or is it supposed to sound like Jeff?
ANd as for the Other Necormancer.
I sorta wondred if it was Bolo from the early EW story.
Sorta looked like him.

In the UK we pronounce Jeff and Geoff the same (similarly Jeffrey and Geoffrey).

About the book - I enjoyed it and didn't think it was too bad. I have read much worse from that time in comics. I would like the Geomancer concept to play a sunsatntive part in a new VALIANT. And even though it may bring brickbats my way, I thought Clay was an interesting character because of his flaws.

I've honestly never given this character a chance.

I hated all the changes happening and it really turned me off to reading some of the books. I still bought everything (loyalty was always important to me) but I will now put them on my reading list.

It at least sounds like this title was above average compared to some of the other drek.

not really...at least IMO...better than the worst , but what is that really saying?

[myron]

Personally I think you should at least attempt to read them all, regarless of how bad they got...makes that longing for pre-unity all that more meaningful.

[siren3-4]

Personally I think you should at least attempt to read them all, regarless of how bad they got...makes that longing for pre-unity all that more meaningful.

Yea . . . . it's long over due . . .

[Daniel Jackson]

I have one question and one hunch about Geomancer.
Geoff. How are you supposed to pronounce his name? Is it GEE OFF,or is it supposed to sound like Jeff?
ANd as for the Other Necormancer.
I sorta wondred if it was Bolo from the early EW story.
Sorta looked like him.

In the UK we pronounce Jeff and Geoff the same (similarly Jeffrey and Geoffrey).

About the book - I enjoyed it and didn't think it was too bad. I have read much worse from that time in comics. I would like the Geomancer concept to play a sunsatntive part in a new VALIANT. And even though it may bring brickbats my way, I thought Clay was an interesting character because of his flaws.

I've honestly never given this character a chance.

I hated all the changes happening and it really turned me off to reading some of the books. I still bought everything (loyalty was always important to me) but I will now put them on my reading list.

It at least sounds like this title was above average compared to some of the other drek.

not really...at least IMO...better than the worst , but what is that really saying?

Yeah, just another example of a character that is not interesting enough to pull off a monthly title.

[dellamorte]

I kinda liked this book, the art was great (at least as long as Rags was on it) and the prologues added some cool backstory into the geomancers. It could have been a bit more thought out but with most of the books from that time they seemed to rush into the concept without defining it.