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I believe they're one and the same, right? The origin story?

I was very, very impressed. Probably some of the finest comic writing I've ever read. When I was a kid, back during VH1's heyday, I steered fairly clear of Solar b/c I thought it was too deep for me; I couldn't get my head around it or the big concepts. Today I can, and it's just spectacular stuff. For all the enemies he's made and all the supposed beefs therein, it's still a damn shame Jim Shooter isn't doing some regular writing in the industry today. He was on a whole other plane, back then.

The page with Phil and Erica "outside" reality has some incredible dialogue. Was that when Erica was first "changed," or was she the phantom figure in the reactor in the opening?

I suppose I'm going to have to track down the individual issues now, seeing as there's only a very obscure trade of "Second Death," right? Either way, I'm looking forward to it.

One question:Didn't Warren Ellis work on Solar at one point? What was that? How did it go?

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Ellis did work on the character but in it's second form.......VH-2.

It was a one shot called "Man of the Atom" it was in fact one of the better selling EVENT issues they produced. D. Robertson was the penciler on that issue.

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Re: Just read "Solar" #0/"Alpha/Omega"

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jsbt wrote:I believe they're one and the same, right? The origin story?
Yup, Solar #0 is Solar: Alpha & Omega. Its one story, the origin story and it was serialised in 10 parts throughout Solar #1-10.
jsbt wrote:I was very, very impressed. Probably some of the finest comic writing I've ever read.
I agree.
jsbt wrote:The page with Phil and Erica "outside" reality has some incredible dialogue. Was that when Erica was first "changed," or was she the phantom figure in the reactor in the opening?
jsbt wrote:The dialogue on that page ties into her motivations for Unity. There was a really good thread about it a while back.
I think the general concensus is that Erica was the figure in the opening (shes in two panels I think) and this is when she 'changes'.
jsbt wrote:I suppose I'm going to have to track down the individual issues now, seeing as there's only a very obscure trade of "Second Death," right? Either way, I'm looking forward to it.
Second Death is a litte hard to find, there is also Frist Strike which collects Solar #5-8. It's probably easier to get the individual issues, and the BWS covers definitly warrant the trouble.
jsbt wrote:One question:Didn't Warren Ellis work on Solar at one point? What was that? How did it go?
Yes he did, during VH2. It was alright. Based on religion. Solar as god...literally.

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As much as I dislike Warren Ellis, I thought his work on Solar was some of the best stuff out of the VH-2 line of titles.
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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It was well written but it's an example of how far VALIANT had fallen.

VALIANT didn't need to be introduced to the material that Ellis presented since it's what lead to the entire universe going off track and becoming a poor man's Silver Age DC.
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xoken wrote: Second Death is a litte hard to find, there is also Frist Strike which collects Solar #5-8.
I don't remember this...is it a TPB I am unaware of?

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k_c_collectibles wrote:
xoken wrote: Second Death is a litte hard to find, there is also Frist Strike which collects Solar #5-8.
I don't remember this...is it a TPB I am unaware of?

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Is it in Greg's Price Guide...? *goes to look*

Nope, I don't see that.....

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The only other tp I know of with issues from Solar is the VALIANT Era trade which has issues 9 and 10. Other than that there's the Unity trades that have issues 11 and 12.

Issues 5-8 haven't been collected, at least far as I know.
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I am definitely interested in seeing if his (xoken's) info is correct, and he knows of something we dont here!!??!

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So am I.
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Something like that would have been found out by now........

a pretty safe bet this doesn't exist.....

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:oops:

I got confused. I was thinking of Invasion the second Magnus tpb that collects #5-8

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Thanks for the reply, XOK!!!

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Bad boy, now for your punishment you must re-read all of 'The Chaos Effect'.

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That's kinda harsh...

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Daniel Jackson wrote:Bad boy, now for your punishment you must re-read all of 'The Chaos Effect'.
No please - anything but that!!! :o

Could be worse... you could have said Deathmate! :twisted:

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k_c_collectibles wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Bad boy, now for your punishment you must re-read all of 'The Chaos Effect'.
No please - anything but that!!! :o

Could be worse... you could have said Deathmate! :twisted:

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i think i'll reread this tonight :thumb:
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daydreamscomics wrote:i think i'll reread this tonight :thumb:
It will put you sleep that's for sure (hopefully not a coma).

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
daydreamscomics wrote:i think i'll reread this tonight :thumb:
It will put you sleep that's for sure (hopefully not a coma).
solar, not chaos effect :lol:
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Post by jsbt »

Sorry, one more question: Can anyone tell me if there is a fact sheet or FAQ out there on what exactly the scope is for Solar's powers? Is he indeed like a god, and if so, what are his limits? How could X-O really take him on? I was just thinking about, say, Solar vs. The Authority or some such nonsense.


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