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[Ryan]

They're "DMG-lite" because they're creatively overseen by the same person, sure.

Exactly all I've been saying the whole time. I speculated on the business arrangement, using my own logic to explain the circumstance. Feel free to not believe my personal business speculation.

Because the only other logical explanation is that they just loved DMG Valiant and thought that they needed to take their all-new Valiant in that direction. Fair enough, it's their decision. But I have no interest in the DMG Valiant books or any books like those.

It's not a matter of believe or not believe, it's a matter than it just isn't so.

Like I've said, the only reason you had to posit that belief was Alien hiring Hawkins, but that is not proof of DMG and Alien being the same company.

Had they hired someone else, you wouldn't have put it forward as a valid argument.

Ok, since I have no proof to prove my speculation to you, then Alien just loved DMG Valiant and wanted more of that. I don't want more of that.

[ManofTheAtom]

They're "DMG-lite" because they're creatively overseen by the same person, sure.

Exactly all I've been saying the whole time. I speculated on the business arrangement, using my own logic to explain the circumstance. Feel free to not believe my personal business speculation.

Because the only other logical explanation is that they just loved DMG Valiant and thought that they needed to take their all-new Valiant in that direction. Fair enough, it's their decision. But I have no interest in the DMG Valiant books or any books like those.

It's not a matter of believe or not believe, it's a matter than it just isn't so.

Like I've said, the only reason you had to posit that belief was Alien hiring Hawkins, but that is not proof of DMG and Alien being the same company.

Had they hired someone else, you wouldn't have put it forward as a valid argument.

Ok, since I have no proof to prove my speculation to you, then Alien just loved DMG Valiant and wanted more of that. I don't want more of that.

Or maybe they didn't want to invest in finding a new editor, or they didn't want to reboot, or they wanted to build on what was already there, or she wowed them with her pitch for her plans moving forward. Or hiring her was a condition of DMG licensing the IPs to them. Lots of valid reasons why they did it.

[ManofTheAtom]

It could be just as simple as that the job was hers and it would have been unfair to fire her just because DMG decided to stop publishing comics and handed that off to a different company.

[Ryan]

Or maybe they didn't want to invest in finding a new editor, or they didn't want to reboot, or they wanted to build on what was already there, or she wowed them with her pitch for her plans moving forward. Or hiring her was a condition of DMG licensing the IPs to them. Lots of valid reasons why they did it.

Sure, but in any case it's not a bold new direction that some on here thought it would be.

It would have been like if when Acclaim started VH2 they hired Layton as Editor-in-Chief and continued the VH1 continuity. Would VH2 would have been much different from VH1 if that was the case?

Again, it's more or less an academic debate at this point. Alien has released 25 Valiant comics at this point, anyone can pick some up and decide for themselves if they like them more or less compared to previous Valiant comics.

[ManofTheAtom]

Or maybe they didn't want to invest in finding a new editor, or they didn't want to reboot, or they wanted to build on what was already there, or she wowed them with her pitch for her plans moving forward. Or hiring her was a condition of DMG licensing the IPs to them. Lots of valid reasons why they did it.

Sure, but in any case it's not a bold new direction that some on here thought it would be.

It would have been like if when Acclaim started VH2 they hired Layton as Editor-in-Chief and continued the VH1 continuity. Would VH2 would have been much different from VH1 if that was the case?

Again, it's more or less an academic debate at this point. Alien has released 25 Valiant comics at this point, anyone can pick some up and decide for themselves if they like them more or less compared to previous Valiant comics.

Most of that has been stuff that likely was in development prior to the Alien takeover or just done as filler, hence the limited nature of each project.

I'll wait to see what happens after Resurgence to form an opinion.

[Ryan]

Or maybe they didn't want to invest in finding a new editor, or they didn't want to reboot, or they wanted to build on what was already there, or she wowed them with her pitch for her plans moving forward. Or hiring her was a condition of DMG licensing the IPs to them. Lots of valid reasons why they did it.

Sure, but in any case it's not a bold new direction that some on here thought it would be.

It would have been like if when Acclaim started VH2 they hired Layton as Editor-in-Chief and continued the VH1 continuity. Would VH2 would have been much different from VH1 if that was the case?

Again, it's more or less an academic debate at this point. Alien has released 25 Valiant comics at this point, anyone can pick some up and decide for themselves if they like them more or less compared to previous Valiant comics.

Most of that has been stuff that likely was in development prior to the Alien takeover or just done as filler, hence the limited nature of each project.

I'll wait to see what happens after Resurgence to form an opinion.

Cool, we'll revisit the debate at that point

[ManofTheAtom]

Or maybe they didn't want to invest in finding a new editor, or they didn't want to reboot, or they wanted to build on what was already there, or she wowed them with her pitch for her plans moving forward. Or hiring her was a condition of DMG licensing the IPs to them. Lots of valid reasons why they did it.

Sure, but in any case it's not a bold new direction that some on here thought it would be.

It would have been like if when Acclaim started VH2 they hired Layton as Editor-in-Chief and continued the VH1 continuity. Would VH2 would have been much different from VH1 if that was the case?

Again, it's more or less an academic debate at this point. Alien has released 25 Valiant comics at this point, anyone can pick some up and decide for themselves if they like them more or less compared to previous Valiant comics.

Most of that has been stuff that likely was in development prior to the Alien takeover or just done as filler, hence the limited nature of each project.

I'll wait to see what happens after Resurgence to form an opinion.

Cool, we'll revisit the debate at that point

[TheFerg714]

Ok, since I have no proof to prove my speculation to you, then Alien just loved DMG Valiant and wanted more of that. I don't want more of that.

It's honestly weird that you keep going back to this well. Why do you assume that Alien "just loved" DMG Valiant? I mean it's possible. Maybe they truly adored what DMG/Valiant was doing, but it's also possible that they simply leapt at the opportunity to break into the American/English/superhero market, and thought they could make some money and/or do something interesting with Valiant. I feel like that's much more likely.

Sure, but in any case it's not a bold new direction that some on here thought it would be.

Idk if "bold" is the right word. That remains to be seen, although it very well may be considered "bold" once post-Resurgence comes around. The point is that it's a new direction. New creatives, new leadership, new direction, and a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity. I know I've repeated this ad nauseum, but it just doesn't seem to be sinking in. Like I said earlier, you can call it whatever the *SQUEE* you want. Call it Alien or DMG 2.0 or Lysa Hawkins' 2nd baby... idgaf. Just be honest about it being different than what came before.

Your Acclaim comparison is silly. This is more akin to when Shooter was ousted. Post-Unity was still VH1, but it was different, almost as if it was a whole new era with different creatives, leadership, and direction.

Most of that has been stuff that likely was in development prior to the Alien takeover or just done as filler, hence the limited nature of each project.

No, the only DMG leftovers were Unconquered and Superkillers. Everything else has been wholly Alien projects.

I'll wait to see what happens after Resurgence to form an opinion.

You have to actually read the books to form an opinion man.

[Ryan]

Idk if "bold" is the right word. That remains to be seen, although it very well may be considered "bold" once post-Resurgence comes around. The point is that it's a new direction. New creatives, new leadership, new direction, and a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity. I know I've repeated this ad nauseum, but it just doesn't seem to be sinking in. Like I said earlier, you can call it whatever the *SQUEE* you want. Call it Alien or DMG 2.0 or Lysa Hawkins' 2nd baby... idgaf. Just be honest about it being different than what came before.

Your Acclaim comparison is silly. This is more akin to when Shooter was ousted. Post-Unity was still VH1, but it was different, almost as if it was a whole new era with different creatives, leadership, and direction.

How is the same Editor-in-Chief not the same leadership? It's not "sinking in" because what you're saying is just not true from my perspective. The DMG EiC (aka Senior Editor) was not ousted, but given the same job. That's the same leadership. Same person calling the shots, selecting the creatives, etc.

That's the opposite of post-Unity, where the EiC was ousted and the comic book line was given new leadership in the form of a new EiC, Layton.

[TheFerg714]

How is the same Editor-in-Chief not the same leadership? It's not "sinking in" because what you're saying is just not true from my perspective. The DMG EiC (aka Senior Editor) was not ousted, but given the same job. That's the same leadership. Same person calling the shots, selecting the creatives, etc.

That's the opposite of post-Unity, where the EiC was ousted and the comic book line was given new leadership in the form of a new EiC, Layton.

We've already talked about this. We're just going in circles at this point because you have this weird compulsion to discredit Alien as simply being DMG's 2nd try or something. Lysa isn't the only person in leadership my guy, and she's not even technically the person in charge. That'd be Matias Timarchi, the Director.

More importantly, even though Lysa is still the EiC, the overall direction has changed. You can see this in the decisions they've made, the production value, the trade dress, the people they've hired, and the artwork. It's plainly obvious that we're in a whole new era for VEI.

[Ryan]

How is the same Editor-in-Chief not the same leadership? It's not "sinking in" because what you're saying is just not true from my perspective. The DMG EiC (aka Senior Editor) was not ousted, but given the same job. That's the same leadership. Same person calling the shots, selecting the creatives, etc.

That's the opposite of post-Unity, where the EiC was ousted and the comic book line was given new leadership in the form of a new EiC, Layton.

We've already talked about this. We're just going in circles at this point because you have this weird compulsion to discredit Alien as simply being DMG's 2nd try or something. Lysa isn't the only person in leadership my guy, and she's not even technically the person in charge. That'd be Matias Timarchi, the Director.

In comics historically the Editor in Chief or top Editor is always the one who's most identified with the creative output. Like when people talk about the Tom DeFalco era of Marvel, etc. You're saying that's not the case at Alien? Sure.

Even if Timarchi or whoever is also in a leadership role, it's not true to say the leadership has totally changed if the EiC is the same.

How is it 'trying to discredit Alien' by stating the fact that the EiC is the same, and stating my opinion that I don't think the comics are any better than the DMG era comics? You're the only one who gets an opinion on the comics, is that it?

If Alien was truly independent of DMG, then they could've hired anyone they wanted for EiC, right? If they really thought the VEI era was better, they could have hired Warren Simons or Matt Kindt. The fact that they hired the DMG Senior Editor Hawkins shows that either DMG ownership made that choice for them or they truly loved the DMG era of Valiant comics. Either way tells me a lot.

[ManofTheAtom]

How is the same Editor-in-Chief not the same leadership? It's not "sinking in" because what you're saying is just not true from my perspective. The DMG EiC (aka Senior Editor) was not ousted, but given the same job. That's the same leadership. Same person calling the shots, selecting the creatives, etc.

That's the opposite of post-Unity, where the EiC was ousted and the comic book line was given new leadership in the form of a new EiC, Layton.

We've already talked about this. We're just going in circles at this point because you have this weird compulsion to discredit Alien as simply being DMG's 2nd try or something. Lysa isn't the only person in leadership my guy, and she's not even technically the person in charge. That'd be Matias Timarchi, the Director.

In comics historically the Editor in Chief or top Editor is always the one who's most identified with the creative output. Like when people talk about the Tom DeFalco era of Marvel, etc. You're saying that's not the case at Alien? Sure.

Even if Timarchi or whoever is also in a leadership role, it's not true to say the leadership has totally changed if the EiC is the same.

How is it 'trying to discredit Alien' by stating the fact that the EiC is the same, and stating my opinion that I don't think the comics are any better than the DMG era comics? You're the only one who gets an opinion on the comics, is that it?

If Alien was truly independent of DMG, then they could've hired anyone they wanted for EiC, right? If they really thought the VEI era was better, they could have hired Warren Simons or Matt Kindt. The fact that they hired the DMG Senior Editor Hawkins shows that either DMG ownership made that choice for them or they truly loved the DMG era of Valiant comics. Either way tells me a lot.

Like I said, it could be as simple as that there would have been no reason to fire her during the transition from DMG to VALIANT.

She may end up leaving at any time. Ward just did.

[Ryan]

More importantly, even though Lysa is still the EiC, the overall direction has changed. You can see this in the decisions they've made, the production value, the trade dress, the people they've hired, and the artwork. It's plainly obvious that we're in a whole new era for VEI.

Like I've said multiple times in this thread, the fact of who the EiC is or what Aliens relationship is to DMG is merely a frivolous discussion as far as I'm concerned. It was just a bit of speculation on my part that seemed to get a few people really riled up.

If the EiC was Joe Quesada or Joe Blow it wouldn't change my opinion one bit about the quality of the Alien Valiant comics that I read. I would still think they are about at or below the level of the DMG Valiant comics that I read.

[Ryan]

Like I said, it could be as simple as that there would have been no reason to fire her during the transition from DMG to VALIANT.

She may end up leaving at any time. Ward just did.

I really don't know, I've never been very concerned with the 'inside baseball' ins and outs of who's doing what at Valiant/Alien/DMG. I just read a few of the comics and put 2 and 2 together in my own brain. But I have no insider knowledge and I don't pay attention to the Facebook/twitter or any of that. Just read the comics and this board.

[ManofTheAtom]

Like I said, it could be as simple as that there would have been no reason to fire her during the transition from DMG to VALIANT.

She may end up leaving at any time. Ward just did.

I really don't know, I've never been very concerned with the 'inside baseball' ins and outs of who's doing what at Valiant/Alien/DMG. I just read a few of the comics and put 2 and 2 together in my own brain. But I have no insider knowledge and I don't pay attention to the Facebook/twitter or any of that. Just read the comics and this board.

Yeah, but when you put two and two together you got five, heh.

It could be that Hawkins is there as a bridge between DMG and Alien and she is the one that approves or disapproves what Alien wants to do. Or it could be that there is someone else between them. We just don't know.

[Ryan]

Yeah, but when you put two and two together you got five, heh.

It could be that Hawkins is there as a bridge between DMG and Alien and she is the one that approves or disapproves what Alien wants to do. Or it could be that there is someone else between them. We just don't know.

According to you and Ferg, sure. I'm still pretty confident in my own math though. As Mr. Black says, Time Will Tell.

[ManofTheAtom]

Yeah, but when you put two and two together you got five, heh.

It could be that Hawkins is there as a bridge between DMG and Alien and she is the one that approves or disapproves what Alien wants to do. Or it could be that there is someone else between them. We just don't know.

According to you and Ferg, sure. I'm still pretty confident in my own math though. As Mr. Black says, Time Will Tell.

Ok.

[Chiclo]

Like I said, it could be as simple as that there would have been no reason to fire her during the transition from DMG to VALIANT.

She may end up leaving at any time. Ward just did.

I really don't know, I've never been very concerned with the 'inside baseball' ins and outs of who's doing what at Valiant/Alien/DMG. I just read a few of the comics and put 2 and 2 together in my own brain. But I have no insider knowledge and I don't pay attention to the Facebook/twitter or any of that. Just read the comics and this board.

Yeah, but when you put two and two together you got five, heh.

It could be that Hawkins is there as a bridge between DMG and Alien and she is the one that approves or disapproves what Alien wants to do. Or it could be that there is someone else between them. We just don't know.

His arguments are not without merit.

[ManofTheAtom]

Like I said, it could be as simple as that there would have been no reason to fire her during the transition from DMG to VALIANT.

She may end up leaving at any time. Ward just did.

I really don't know, I've never been very concerned with the 'inside baseball' ins and outs of who's doing what at Valiant/Alien/DMG. I just read a few of the comics and put 2 and 2 together in my own brain. But I have no insider knowledge and I don't pay attention to the Facebook/twitter or any of that. Just read the comics and this board.

Yeah, but when you put two and two together you got five, heh.

It could be that Hawkins is there as a bridge between DMG and Alien and she is the one that approves or disapproves what Alien wants to do. Or it could be that there is someone else between them. We just don't know.

His arguments are not without merit.

The argument that DMG and Alien are the same company is without merit.

The argument that Alien's VALIANT books have the same tone and style as as the ones DMG published because DMG controls what they look like is without merit.

Had Alien hired someone other than Hawkins to edit the line it is very unlikely that the comics would look the same and there would have been no reason at all to suggest that DMG and Alien are the same company.

Now, that meritless argument aside, the comics look the same because they are edited by the same person. It's the same reason why New Universe, VALIANT, Defiant, and Broadway all looked the same, because they all adhered to the same editor's creative vision.

Clearly Ryan doesn't like Hawkin's creative vision, and that's fine. He'd rather the comics adhered more closely to the tone and style of VH 1, which I do agree would be great if they did.

But DMG has nothing whatsoever to do with the tone and style of Alien's books. Hawkins does.

[TheFerg714]

In comics historically the Editor in Chief or top Editor is always the one who's most identified with the creative output. Like when people talk about the Tom DeFalco era of Marvel, etc. You're saying that's not the case at Alien? Sure.

Switching goalposts. My argument was that there was a change in leadership. You said that there was no change, and your argument was that Lysa Hawkins was still EiC, but I never denied that. I was never talking specifically about the EiC.

Even if Timarchi or whoever is also in a leadership role, it's not true to say the leadership has totally changed if the EiC is the same.

Interesting use of the word "totally" there. I literally never specified one specific role in leadership. I've only ever claimed that it is DIFFERENT from what came before, and it demonstrably is.

...and stating my opinion that I don't think the comics are any better than the DMG era comics? You're the only one who gets an opinion on the comics, is that it?

Well this is an entirely separate conversation. If you don't think they're better, then that's fine. That's just personal preference and you can't exactly be "wrong." I think you're crazy for thinking that, but hey, we all have different tastes.

If Alien was truly independent of DMG, then they could've hired anyone they wanted for EiC, right? If they really thought the VEI era was better, they could have hired Warren Simons or Matt Kindt. The fact that they hired the DMG Senior Editor Hawkins shows that either DMG ownership made that choice for them or they truly loved the DMG era of Valiant comics. Either way tells me a lot.

More baseless assumptions. I mean you may be right, about all of this, but this is all conjecture.

I really don't know, I've never been very concerned with the 'inside baseball' ins and outs of who's doing what at Valiant/Alien/DMG. I just read a few of the comics and put 2 and 2 together in my own brain. But I have no insider knowledge and I don't pay attention to the Facebook/twitter or any of that. Just read the comics and this board.

It's kind of amazing that you can't see that there's been a huge shift. The artwork looks entirely different (not necessarily in a good way sometimes). Most of the writers are different. The trade dress and paper quality are different. The frequent output is different than the last few years which saw 1-2 issues release every month. There's been a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity (which you've admitted). They seem to have a semi-long-term plan, which is very new compared to the last few years.

His arguments are not without merit.

The argument that DMG and Alien are the same company is without merit.

The argument that Alien's VALIANT books have the same tone and style as as the ones DMG published because DMG controls what they look like is without merit.

Had Alien hired someone other than Hawkins to edit the line it is very unlikely that the comics would look the same and there would have been no reason at all to suggest that DMG and Alien are the same company.

This is exactly right. His arguments are absolutely without merit.

[Ryan]

The argument that DMG and Alien are the same company is without merit.

The argument that Alien's VALIANT books have the same tone and style as as the ones DMG published because DMG controls what they look like is without merit.

Had Alien hired someone other than Hawkins to edit the line it is very unlikely that the comics would look the same and there would have been no reason at all to suggest that DMG and Alien are the same company.

Now, that meritless argument aside, the comics look the same because they are edited by the same person. It's the same reason why New Universe, VALIANT, Defiant, and Broadway all looked the same, because they all adhered to the same editor's creative vision.

Clearly Ryan doesn't like Hawkin's creative vision, and that's fine. He'd rather the comics adhered more closely to the tone and style of VH 1, which I do agree would be great if they did.

But DMG has nothing whatsoever to do with the tone and style of Alien's books. Hawkins does.

Dang, nuance is really hard on this board. I really don't care which company does what, or who gets the credit or the blame. It was a mistake to ever post my speculation, since it's completely beside the point and not something I have interest in.

I also never said DMG and Alien 'look the same'. I said from the very beginning that the art looks different, like Alien has less experienced artists, and that there definitely seemed to be more connectivity between the comics, since DMG era had very little connectivity.

What I did say was that when I read them, the alien books were of similar or lesser quality than the DMG books, for my taste.

qual·i·ty
/ˈkwälədē/
noun
1.
the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

That's it. Never said they look the same or they're the same company. Just that they seemed of similar quality to me. Then when I noticed the EiC is the same as the Senior Editor from DMG, I thought 'oh, that makes sense.'

Clearly Ryan doesn't like Hawkin's creative vision, and that's fine. He'd rather the comics adhered more closely to the tone and style of VH 1, which I do agree would be great if they did.

That's on point. I only came back to posting because I thought there was hope we would finally get new Valiant comics that were closer to VH1. I've been a huge fan since June 1991 (Magnus #4) and a member of the boards since they began. I have no interest in posting negative opinions so I usually avoid posting about the current comics. I hope they will find an audience and Valiant gains new fans.

[Ryan]

Switching goalposts. My argument was that there was a change in leadership. You said that there was no change, and your argument was that Lysa Hawkins was still EiC, but I never denied that. I was never talking specifically about the EiC.

Interesting use of the word "totally" there. I literally never specified one specific role in leadership. I've only ever claimed that it is DIFFERENT from what came before, and it demonstrably is.

Well this is an entirely separate conversation. If you don't think they're better, then that's fine. That's just personal preference and you can't exactly be "wrong." I think you're crazy for thinking that, but hey, we all have different tastes.

More baseless assumptions. I mean you may be right, about all of this, but this is all conjecture.

It's kind of amazing that you can't see that there's been a huge shift. The artwork looks entirely different (not necessarily in a good way sometimes). Most of the writers are different. The trade dress and paper quality are different. The frequent output is different than the last few years which saw 1-2 issues release every month. There's been a renewed focus on continuity and interconnectivity (which you've admitted). They seem to have a semi-long-term plan, which is very new compared to the last few years.

This is exactly right. His arguments are absolutely without merit.

Man, why do you get so heated? This is a comic book fan message board, where we discuss our opinions on the comics, dissect the comics, and speculate about the comics. Show me where I said something that was false, and I'll gladly retract it.

Or are only people who have the same opinions and the same speculations as you allowed to share their views on this board?

[TheFerg714]

Man, why do you get so heated? This is a comic book fan message board, where we discuss our opinions on the comics, dissect the comics, and speculate about the comics. Show me where I said something that was false, and I'll gladly retract it.

Or are only people who have the same opinions and the same speculations as you allowed to share their views on this board?

Sorry, I just think you're wrong about some things. I did write a whole paragraph explaining that it's not really about opinions.

I know I can get kind of heated about this board's negativity surrounding Alien, because from my perspective, they've been making good decisions, and the books have improved. It just sometimes feels like people on here are just looking for excuses to complain. That said, I have admittedly been excusing some aspects of Alien's output, and will be much harder on them come Resurgence and Post-Resurgence.

If you're willing to admit that Alien is a whole new era, disconnected from the DMG era, then we have nothing to argue about.

[ManofTheAtom]

The argument that DMG and Alien are the same company is without merit.

The argument that Alien's VALIANT books have the same tone and style as as the ones DMG published because DMG controls what they look like is without merit.

Had Alien hired someone other than Hawkins to edit the line it is very unlikely that the comics would look the same and there would have been no reason at all to suggest that DMG and Alien are the same company.

Now, that meritless argument aside, the comics look the same because they are edited by the same person. It's the same reason why New Universe, VALIANT, Defiant, and Broadway all looked the same, because they all adhered to the same editor's creative vision.

Clearly Ryan doesn't like Hawkin's creative vision, and that's fine. He'd rather the comics adhered more closely to the tone and style of VH 1, which I do agree would be great if they did.

But DMG has nothing whatsoever to do with the tone and style of Alien's books. Hawkins does.

Dang, nuance is really hard on this board. I really don't care which company does what, or who gets the credit or the blame. It was a mistake to ever post my speculation, since it's completely beside the point and not something I have interest in.

I also never said DMG and Alien 'look the same'. I said from the very beginning that the art looks different, like Alien has less experienced artists, and that there definitely seemed to be more connectivity between the comics, since DMG era had very little connectivity.

What I did say was that when I read them, the alien books were of similar or lesser quality than the DMG books, for my taste.

qual·i·ty
/ˈkwälədē/
noun
1.
the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

That's it. Never said they look the same or they're the same company. Just that they seemed of similar quality to me. Then when I noticed the EiC is the same as the Senior Editor from DMG, I thought 'oh, that makes sense.'

Clearly Ryan doesn't like Hawkin's creative vision, and that's fine. He'd rather the comics adhered more closely to the tone and style of VH 1, which I do agree would be great if they did.

That's on point. I only came back to posting because I thought there was hope we would finally get new Valiant comics that were closer to VH1. I've been a huge fan since June 1991 (Magnus #4) and a member of the boards since they began. I have no interest in posting negative opinions so I usually avoid posting about the current comics. I hope they will find an audience and Valiant gains new fans.

My problem, Ryan, was that when I said that Alien and DMG are not the same company and that fool I blocked called me insane for saying it you doubled down on the claim by erroneously conflating Hawkins being an editor at both as proof that there is no distinction between the two companies.

Now, since then you've backtracked on that position, which is good, but we keep going back to that belief because you won't relent in it.

Ownership should have NEVER been part of the discussion. The two companies are distinct from one another.

The only reason the comics have the same style and tone is because, for reasons we ignore, Alien retained Hawkins as editor.

Maybe her hiring was a condition of the licensing.

Maybe she wowed them with her pitch/vision.

Maybe they just didn't think it fair to fire her because responsibility for publishing the comics switched from DMG to Alien.

In some ways, the Alien deal might be comparable to when Event Comics took over the Daredevil, Punisher, and other Marvel comics for the Marvel Knights line, or when Extreme and Wildstorm Studios did Heroes Reborn. Who knows.

[Ryan]

Sorry, I just think you're wrong about some things. I did write a whole paragraph explaining that it's not really about opinions.

I know I can get kind of heated about this board's negativity surrounding Alien, because from my perspective, they've been making good decisions, and the books have improved. It just sometimes feels like people on here are just looking for excuses to complain. That said, I have admittedly been excusing some aspects of Alien's output, and will be much harder on them come Resurgence and Post-Resurgence.

If you're willing to admit that Alien is a whole new era, disconnected from the DMG era, then we have nothing to argue about.

I will admit that there are definitely a lot more aspects that are different than are the same.

I will try to read Resurgence with an open mind, looking for positives to balance the negatives. I do think it's better for the board's health if there's spirited debate about the comics, with diverse opinions, as opposed to the total radio silence that most of the new releases get.