CGC's latest submissions... Marvel, DC.... Valiant?!?

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:34 am

greg wrote:In theory, pressing might be a good idea for a book that is "mid-grade"...
but it's hard to justify "possible restoration" on a top grade book.
It would be too easy to do more harm than good.

Sure there is always pros and cons to every situation. Of course when you look at the multiples that folks will spend for a .2 increase you have to see why folks will risk it. I guess that is the funny thing about it....

A mid-grade copy is probably much less likely to see pressing than a super HG copy. That mid grade book is in someones collection. They like it. They plan on keeping it, probably. They might want it to look nicer, but why spend the money on pressing it instead of just picking up another copy or maybe a different book that you also like. A super HG book will see the pressing because it is waiting to be flipped and a .2 increase could mean $1000's of dollars. I dont think that the value is there on a mid-grade book...

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:28 am

CGC doesn't give pressed books a GLOD?

How is pressing not restoration?

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:50 am

400yrs wrote:CGC doesn't give pressed books a GLOD?

How is pressing not restoration?

Well, it would be a PLOD (Purple label of death)... if they can detect the pressing.

The problem with "non-disassembled pressing" is that there's no way to
prove that a book has been pressed "on purpose", vs. a book that has
been pressed "in the middle of a stack of books". Many older books that
were found stacked for decades look like they've been pressed, too,
but it's certainly not restoration to leave a book in a stack for 30 years.
There's nothing to detect, so there's nothing to put on the label.

If the book has ever been dis-assembled to press the pages,
or replace the staples, or if any type of cleaning solution can be detected,
or if the edges have been trimmed... then CGC will grade a book
as Purple label Restored... but it takes more than "possible pressing"
to warrant a Purple label.

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:53 am

400yrs wrote:CGC doesn't give pressed books a GLOD?

How is pressing not restoration?

I believe their official stance is that if they can't detect it then they can't GLOD it.

Personally I think it's a non issue. If cgc can't detect it then why is it such a big deal? Who cares if your 9.0 Gold Key book was pressed or not? I never did figure out why it's such a hot topic. I think it's just one of those things that people talk about because otherwise there would be nothing to talk about. heh.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:53 am

greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:CGC doesn't give pressed books a GLOD?

How is pressing not restoration?
Well, it would be a PLOD (Purple label of death)... if they can detect the pressing.

Oh yeah, My brain's not working yet today.

In that case, I've got a Mile High ASM #41 that is a perfect candidate for non-disassembly pressing.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 pm

400yrs wrote:
greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:CGC doesn't give pressed books a GLOD?

How is pressing not restoration?
Well, it would be a PLOD (Purple label of death)... if they can detect the pressing.

Oh yeah, My brain's not working yet today.

In that case, I've got a Mile High ASM #41 that is a perfect candidate for non-disassembly pressing.

What do you mean mile high ASM #41? Maybe mile high 2 the warehouse find? Couldnt be from the original mile high collection/church collection.

I think that the problem is that people dont know if the pressing will reverse itself. You could buy a hg book that had been pressed then it reverts to its original form and it is no longer high grade. Plus people just like for that type of information to be disclosed. Also restoration is a real negative in this hobby and dealers probably dont want to start negatively labeling their books if they have been pressed..

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:12 pm

Is it just comics that were restoration is consider bad or does that expand to coins and card collectors as well?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:22 pm

Yeah, Mile High 2; I bought about a half dozen SA Spideys a while back that were Mile High 2 copies and an Avengers book too.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:23 pm

whetteon wrote:Is it just comics that were restoration is consider bad or does that expand to coins and card collectors as well?

Don't know about those, but classic car restoration is a good thing!!