CGC press

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:19 am

http://boards.collectors-society.com/sh ... e=0#752316

Well yesterday this little press release poped up..(Its the link in the link) and I first I didnt think that CGC saying that they have run all the thieves out of comic collecting was a great thing. I thought that CGC needs to hire someone to make sure that Steve doesnt just run off at the mouth and say things that he has no way of backing up. Then someone noticed that it was realeased by a PR person, which means that Steve paid someone to write his "quote" about running theives out of the hobby...Well as it turns out at the bottom of the press release there is an email address for the PR person...Well if you go to the domain on the email address, http://www.dawnmortensen.com ,it is a redirect to Colossus Comics...

Basically cgc's press release has a link in it to someone else selling their product. Turns out that Steve met the lady at a Con where she was working for her husband who happens to run CC. Now I dont think that anything shaddy is going on, but just that it reeks of amaetur hour...Just makes you wonder about what other deals CC and CGC might have...

Folks on the cgc board dont think that it is a big deal...what do you guys think?

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:35 am

bad precedence...

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:40 am

This isn't the first time questions like this pop up. CGC just have more zealot fans who WILL overlook any wrong doing by them. Now if this was PGX...*cough* *cough*

I'll wait till I hear the official response from Mr. CGC himself, Peter Parker!

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:03 am

whetteon wrote:This isn't the first time questions like this pop up. CGC just have more zealot fans who WILL overlook any wrong doing by them. Now if this was PGX...*cough* *cough*

I'll wait till I hear the official response from Mr. CGC himself, Peter Parker!

You would think that they would get tired of saying "This isnt a big deal."

Also if this was a defense contractor or something like that it would be major news...CGC is lucky that no one cares about our little hobby..

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:46 am

Next thing you kow they'll start making deals with Wizard.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:49 am

depluto wrote:Next thing you kow they'll start making deals with Wizard.

No doubt

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:23 am

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:11 am

Pluto...

That was a funny post bro'

Yeah, the CGC getting in bed with other "businesses" is not a preferible way to go about "THIRD PARTY GRADING"

it just puts a rancid taste in peoples mouths.

However, ultimately, we ALL have to come to understand (if not agree and support) that a business is IN business to make money. It's cliche I realize, buts it is fact, and as long as the partnerships don't invlove FRAUD (see CGG/PGA/PGX :x ) and don't have an effect on the grading professionalism and product as a whole, its not that important to me.

We're the average, everyday people to learn about ALL the "partnerships & Deals" between companies in general, or even that for example of none for profit organizations

folks would crap

(take my word for it, i'm a Corporate Attorney

)

So, this addendum will simply state that YES, it bothers me, as does the Wizard crap :x the pressing crap :x and other minor troubles. However, in the end, the product and its place in the hobby/market are well established and accepted. Hence, making it more difficult for this type of news to really hurt them

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:34 pm

depluto wrote:Next thing you kow they'll start making deals with Wizard.

Too late

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:52 pm

400yrs wrote:
depluto wrote:Next thing you kow they'll start making deals with Wizard.
Too late

I think that it was a joke...

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:52 pm

I love the concept of graded comics, and I think CGC is operating at a level I can trust.

It does take a lot of thieves out of the equation. It has also created a new generation of speculators who try and work the angle between what a book is worth and what they can sell a graded copy for on ebay. Some of these are good people, some aren't.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:57 pm

Peter Parker wrote:Pluto...

That was a funny post bro'

Yeah, the CGC getting in bed with other "businesses" is not a preferible way to go about "THIRD PARTY GRADING" it just puts a rancid taste in peoples mouths.

However, ultimately, we ALL have to come to understand (if not agree and support) that a business is IN business to make money. It's cliche I realize, buts it is fact, and as long as the partnerships don't invlove FRAUD (see CGG/PGA/PGX :x ) and don't have an effect on the grading professionalism and product as a whole, its not that important to me.

We're the average, everyday people to learn about ALL the "partnerships & Deals" between companies in general, or even that for example of none for profit organizations folks would crap (take my word for it, i'm a Corporate Attorney )

So, this addendum will simply state that YES, it bothers me, as does the Wizard crap :x the pressing crap :x and other minor troubles. However, in the end, the product and its place in the hobby/market are well established and accepted. Hence, making it more difficult for this type of news to really hurt them

Yeah we all know that this is a bad move, but my problem is that CGC doesnt understand that it was a bad move. Steve reaction was "Big Deal". He just doesnt get it. This is amateur...CGC should be way past amateur at this point..they just need to hire a PR based on thier PR abilities and not hire one because she is married to a friend...It just doesnt make any sense...Gee she has big T*ts...I bet she would make a great PR person. You would hire a lawyer like that, hopefully, why would you hire a PR person.

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:30 pm

DawgPhan wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Pluto...

That was a funny post bro'

Yeah, the CGC getting in bed with other "businesses" is not a preferible way to go about "THIRD PARTY GRADING" it just puts a rancid taste in peoples mouths.

However, ultimately, we ALL have to come to understand (if not agree and support) that a business is IN business to make money. It's cliche I realize, buts it is fact, and as long as the partnerships don't invlove FRAUD (see CGG/PGA/PGX :x ) and don't have an effect on the grading professionalism and product as a whole, its not that important to me.

We're the average, everyday people to learn about ALL the "partnerships & Deals" between companies in general, or even that for example of none for profit organizations folks would crap (take my word for it, i'm a Corporate Attorney )

So, this addendum will simply state that YES, it bothers me, as does the Wizard crap :x the pressing crap :x and other minor troubles. However, in the end, the product and its place in the hobby/market are well established and accepted. Hence, making it more difficult for this type of news to really hurt them
Yeah we all know that this is a bad move, but my problem is that CGC doesnt understand that it was a bad move. Steve reaction was "Big Deal". He just doesnt get it. This is amateur...CGC should be way past amateur at this point..they just need to hire a PR based on thier PR abilities and not hire one because she is married to a friend...It just doesnt make any sense...Gee she has big T*ts...I bet she would make a great PR person. You would hire a lawyer like that, hopefully, why would you hire a PR person.

100% agree!..Borock's "social graces" are not refined, this we can see

I completely agree further, that CGC should have a SERIOUS PR firm/dept. that would add a needed professional, and articulate explanation for certain company practices.

They make mistakes, no question, is arrrogance to blame? perhaps a bit, but ultimately I truly don't think any of these guys ever thought this "CGC" idea would ever impact the industry as it has

Most of these guys are never going to be diplomats, that is not their skill. They need to recognize this and address it, or it will only grow to a larger problem.

HIRE the workforce you need so you're not required to handle work you're not skilled for. I truly think they don't want to make that financial investment to do so, but that's just me

They grade comics, look for restoration, and encapsulate with an opionated grade

wonderful, just please don't try and engage in corporate relations as well

224gideon · Post by **224gideon** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:42 pm

to bad e-bay hasn't run all the thieves out of there system!!

cgc needs some stiff competetion and i know nothing about

the other grading companies so i am not sure if they are the

answer!i think it is quite possible that cgc has deals with these

bigger comic shops and with the wizard.yeah it sucks but it's

there concsience not mine.......cgc has also inadvertently taken

the vf/nm to nm- grades and made them almost usless in the 1980's

and up!but thieves there will always be thieves because there will

always be someone willing to sell you or me out for cash!!

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:51 pm

well basically it didnt get rid of any theivves it just made them do something else. Currently there is a BB 28 on comiclink that was an 8.0 and not is slabbed with a 9.0. The difference in price on these 2 books is almost 15000.. It appears that the book has been pressed. Now pressing is something that people feel differently about, but CGC doesnt consider it resto. Now people are just tkaing advantage of that little quirk...