What artist would you not want to come back?

The Harbinger · Post by **The Harbinger** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:45 pm

never liked bart sears' work

danthecomicman · Post by **danthecomicman** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:47 pm

I'm going to go against the grain a bit and throw some love Bart Sears' way.

Relatively speaking, his art was at least better than most/all of the art during the final gasps of Valiant. If anything, I found Andy Smith's X-O art too similar to Bart Sears. Also, I fondly remember receiving signed cards and art from Bart when I sent him a letter asking him to sign some Valiant cards, so he's okay in my books!

I will, however, echo the thumbs-down on Giffen's work. His stuff is near-impossible to look at!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:32 am

danthecomicman wrote:I'm going to go against the grain a bit and throw some love Bart Sears' way.

Relatively speaking, his art was at least better than most/all of the art during the final gasps of Valiant.

I will, however, echo the thumbs-down on Giffen's work. His stuff is near-impossible to look at!

Ditto on both counts.

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:41 am

danthecomicman wrote:I'm going to go against the grain a bit and throw some love Bart Sears' way.

Relatively speaking, his art was at least better than most/all of the art during the final gasps of Valiant. If anything, I found Andy Smith's X-O art too similar to Bart Sears. Also, I fondly remember receiving signed cards and art from Bart when I sent him a letter asking him to sign some Valiant cards, so he's okay in my books!

I will, however, echo the thumbs-down on Giffen's work. His stuff is near-impossible to look at!

I have a feeling that Smith was asked assimilate his art to that of Sears much the way that Morretti did with the BWS style on EW. Obviously I could be off base here.

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:46 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
danthecomicman wrote:I'm going to go against the grain a bit and throw some love Bart Sears' way.

Relatively speaking, his art was at least better than most/all of the art during the final gasps of Valiant.

I will, however, echo the thumbs-down on Giffen's work. His stuff is near-impossible to look at!
Ditto on both counts.

I agree here on both points, it was stated at one of the NY panels that certain high priced artists were hired for top dollar and they basically "took the money" and turned in "much less than their best" work.

k_c_collectibles · Post by **k_c_collectibles** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:55 am

I have to toss some love Bart Sears way also. He is a VERY nice guy and I think his covers kick *SQUEE*!

His interior art however... at times... can be... painful... to... look at.

Here is a sneak peek <take note V.I.P. - this is how it is spelled> at some cool stuff he did for me for an upcoming project I am putting together:

It has been in the works for a while (yes - the sketch cards say 2006 on them

)

Anyhoo - bringing this thread back on course...

The artist I would least like to see back at Valiant would have to be Keith Giffen. His work on Punx was not exactly the defining moment in Valiant history.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:11 am

k_c_collectibles wrote:I have to toss some love Bart Sears way also. He is a VERY nice guy and I think his covers kick *SQUEE*!

His interior art however... at times... can be... painful... to... look at.

Here is a sneak peek <take note V.I.P. - this is how it is spelled> at some cool stuff he did for me for an upcoming project I am putting together:

It has been in the works for a while (yes - the sketch cards say 2006 on them )

Anyhoo - bringing this thread back on course...

The artist I would least like to see back at Valiant would have to be Keith Giffen. His work on Punx was not exactly the defining moment in Valiant history.

I like Bart sears' art also. That said, if VEI were aiming for a 'house style' approach, then I don't think he would fit.

Least wanted return? Let me think.

Whilst thinking about it, it is worth considering that every artist changes their style subtly with time, and furthermore can be hurt by bad inking at any time. I love Bernard Chang's VALIANT stuff but think his Visitor pages in issue 13 looked pretty horrible when inked by Autio (no offense meant to Mr Autio, I just thought his inking was ill-suited in this case). The inking was too heavy for Chang's line work in my view.

Similarly I would not like to see pages ever again by Giffen in his 'crunchy' 90's style looking at the Punx ads (I haven't read the books) also his Trencher creation had a similar style it seemed. Yet if you see his almost Perez-esque early LoSH you would barely consider that it was the same artist.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:16 am

slym2none wrote:

What the He11 is that robot doing to Leeja?!?

As for this topic I'll throw out Kevin Kobasic and Gonzalo Mayo's inks.

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:15 am

Bart Sears was my favorite artist back in the day and I still love his work.
And from reading the editors pages in the back of the X-O books Smith trained under Bart so that's why his style looks the same imo.

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:33 pm

danthecomicman wrote:I'm going to go against the grain a bit and throw some love Bart Sears' way.

Relatively speaking, his art was at least better than most/all of the art during the final gasps of Valiant. If anything, I found Andy Smith's X-O art too similar to Bart Sears. Also, I fondly remember receiving signed cards and art from Bart when I sent him a letter asking him to sign some Valiant cards, so he's okay in my books!

I will, however, echo the thumbs-down on Giffen's work. His stuff is near-impossible to look at!

Trencher was barely visible...

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:36 pm

"What artist would you not want to come back?"

Leifield (Deathmate)

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:32 pm

k_c_collectibles wrote:I have to toss some love Bart Sears way also. He is a VERY nice guy and I think his covers kick *SQUEE*!

His interior art however... at times... can be... painful... to... look at.

Here is a sneak peek <take note V.I.P. - this is how it is spelled> at some cool stuff he did for me for an upcoming project I am putting together:

It has been in the works for a while (yes - the sketch cards say 2006 on them )

I can't wait to hear what this is.

charles_yo · Post by **charles_yo** » Tue May 26, 2009 1:25 am

ok, thanks god my name didn't come up in this.

(seriously, did anyone really look at turok #24?!? Yikes!)

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:45 am

Bart Sears.

robb77 · Post by **robb77** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:19 am

Cyberstrike wrote:Bart Sears.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:50 am

slym2none wrote:I liked this Voz art...

-slym

really?

It looks like someones child has just scriblled on a page with crayons and then had a human shape drawn around the colours... eugh

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue May 26, 2009 10:17 am

As long as Giffen never returns, that's the important thing....

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue May 26, 2009 10:23 am

charles_yo wrote:ok, thanks god my name didn't come up in this.

(seriously, did anyone really look at turok #24?!? Yikes!)

I just did. That'll be Twenty grand you owe me for the eye surgery I need.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue May 26, 2009 11:53 am

ian_house wrote:
slym2none wrote:I liked this Voz art...

-slym
really?

Yes, really.

It looks like someones child has just scriblled on a page with crayons and then had a human shape drawn around the colours... eugh

You know what they say about opinions...

-slym

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:11 pm

Add another vote for Vosburg. That commission piece or whatever is better than anything else I've seen from him, but I still don't care for it.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:23 pm

You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who can draw/paint the ladies better than Voz. Plus he's incredibly generous with his fans.

Check out his website, vozart.com.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:34 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
charles_yo wrote:ok, thanks god my name didn't come up in this.

(seriously, did anyone really look at turok #24?!? Yikes!)
I just did. That'll be Twenty grand you owe me for the eye surgery I need.

I will go pull my Turok 24 now, but nice blog. I am about to read that article on the direct market. Welcome to the site!

Crow331 · Post by **Crow331** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:22 pm

I liked Bart Sears

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:34 pm

I liked Sears too.. most of it isnt house style though. I guess I have mixed feelings about it then.

Maybe Bart could go towards a house style on the inside and then let him do his thing on covers

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:25 am

slym2none wrote:
ian_house wrote:
slym2none wrote:I liked this Voz art...

-slym
really?
Yes, really.

It looks like someones child has just scriblled on a page with crayons and then had a human shape drawn around the colours... eugh
You know what they say about opinions...

-slym

Yep, mines the correct one!

Sorry! Just didn't think very much of them.