Valiant vs Marvel Origins

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon May 16, 2011 1:48 pm

So, for Christmas a few years ago, I got the X-Men DVD with all of the comics stored on it. I brushed through a few stories, but for the most part, put it away.

Since then, the compulsion completionist took over, and I bought every darned DVD I could get my hands on - especially with GIT licensing to that closure. So.... I bought them all. Of course.

And they sat on a shelf in my closet. I poked here and there, but didn't read much more than the covers.

I came across a quote - more than once - that refreshed my brain, or compared Valiant and Marvel's origins.

That got me a'thinkin!

So I put together a list of books, month by month, so I could trace the companies' origins, re-track, and re-read.

Then, my obsessions took over.

Spreadsheets, comparisons, checking, re-listing, re-checking... etc. All in the name of this new obsession.

And here I was. Ready to start reading - when my ten-year-old daughter entered the scene. Perhaps one of the few ten-year old girls on the planet genuinely interested in reading Valiant comics. Our plan is now to re-read the universes, and reflect on them, tracing and comparing origins. Fun, eh?

Wanted a check for feedback from anyone interested.

I've built a monster list of the books, and I'm prepping to read them - comparing when I can - but if anyone could check to see if I'm missing anything major.

I've only made it to August 2002/December 1973, but I plan to continue re-reading them forward through the last books covered on the CD's (2005-ish), and re-compare them to books when I get forward enough through to 1991 and beyond, if I can. By then, I plan to re-incorporate my own books, too. (Those of you interested in a blow-by-blow coverage of West Coast Avengers - here it COMES!)

Anyhoo - most interested in feedback on the Valiant stages, here. Any suggestions, improvements much obliged. If I am missing something, let me know.

Thanks, kids!

HERE's the list!

http://valiantvsmarvel.weebly.com/mess-list.html

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:17 pm

Cool, but what happened to Tales to Astonishing, why start so late.
I think # 27 ( 1st Hank Pym) was the 2nd Marvel book, if you count it, as i think some don't with it not originally meant as a Marvel continuity book.
I think you have the 1st one as #62?

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:18 pm

Oh and you are a nutjob.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:38 pm

Draco wrote:Cool, but what happened to Tales to Astonishing, why start so late.
I think # 27 ( 1st Hank Pym) was the 2nd Marvel book, if you count it, as i think some don't with it not originally meant as a Marvel continuity book.
I think you have the 1st one as #62?

Most of my collection from that level moves from the Captain America, Iron Man, and Hulk DVD comic collections. That's why the limited Tales to Astonish/of Suspense.

http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-C ... 221&sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Captain-America-C ... 234&sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Iron-M ... 243&sr=8-1

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:41 pm

Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:50 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Cool, but what happened to Tales to Astonishing, why start so late.
I think # 27 ( 1st Hank Pym) was the 2nd Marvel book, if you count it, as i think some don't with it not originally meant as a Marvel continuity book.
I think you have the 1st one as #62?

Most of my collection from that level moves from the Captain America, Iron Man, and Hulk DVD comic collections. That's why the limited Tales to Astonish/of Suspense.

http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-C ... 221&sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Captain-America-C ... 234&sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Iron-M ... 243&sr=8-1

Right, my apologies, i thought you had obtained the run of Marvel books from that era.

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Mon May 16, 2011 4:00 pm

I find your endeavor interesting since I am a psychotherapist and comic book collector. I look forward to hearing your feedback through the end of Unity, but after that I gotta side with Draco.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:22 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.

Is that a Tim and Eric thing?

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:49 pm

Chiclo wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.
Is that a Tim and Eric thing?

Sorry. Too much a newbie, dolt, end of school year, moron kinda clueless guy.

"Tim and Eric" what now?

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Mon May 16, 2011 5:53 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.
Is that a Tim and Eric thing?
Sorry. Too much a newbie, dolt, end of school year, moron kinda clueless guy.

"Tim and Eric" what now?

No, i have no idea what it means either.

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon May 16, 2011 6:00 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.
Is that a Tim and Eric thing?
Sorry. Too much a newbie, dolt, end of school year, moron kinda clueless guy.

"Tim and Eric" what now?

Suppose not.

The parsing of ab-so-LUTE-ly indicates similar emphasis to a short clip stamped at the end of every Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job episode. Also, I have seen such parsing used recently and figured that you were repeating something you had said before so I suspected a pattern.

And if there's something old Captain Stan could use, it's a smatter'n' of pattern*.

* - before anyone asks, this is an allusion to Tales from a Parallel Universe #3, Eating Pattern.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Mon May 16, 2011 8:43 pm

Chiclo wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
Draco wrote:Oh and you are a nutjob.

Ab-so-LUTE-ly.

In the foaming at the mouth kinda way.
Is that a Tim and Eric thing?
Sorry. Too much a newbie, dolt, end of school year, moron kinda clueless guy.

"Tim and Eric" what now?
Suppose not.

The parsing of ab-so-LUTE-ly indicates similar emphasis to a short clip stamped at the end of every Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job episode. Also, I have seen such parsing used recently and figured that you were repeating something you had said before so I suspected a pattern.

And if there's something old Captain Stan could use, it's a smatter'n' of pattern*.

* - before anyone asks, this is an allusion to Tales from a Parallel Universe #3, Eating Pattern.

"Stop me before I sub-reference again!" Name THAT sub-reference!

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:49 am

So, my ten-year old read Magnus 1 last night. I wanted to get her reaction, and see where she was going to be. I asked her, trying to remember my first reaction.

She looked at me, and said, "Everybody dies, but not everybody lives. I heard that in a song, and thought it fit."

This may be a much bigger adventure than I'd anticipated.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Tue May 31, 2011 6:25 pm

The kid's looking forward to reading and writing these.

If you're interested, we've posted our first reviews.

Thanks for checking us out!

http://valiantvsmarvel.weebly.com/

sbcomics · Post by **sbcomics** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:35 pm

Sounds cool! I look forward to reading your updates!

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:16 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
"Stop me before I sub-reference again!" Name THAT sub-reference!

Dennis Miller, "Black & White"

-slym

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:31 am

slym2none wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:
"Stop me before I sub-reference again!" Name THAT sub-reference!
Dennis Miller, "Black & White"

-slym

NICE! Took a while, but EX-cellent

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Anyone interested in checking - we're rolling out here. No surprise - the kid loves Magnus, SOLAR and Harbinger - and is offended that I hate Hulk so much.

Thanks for checking, kids!

sbcomics · Post by **sbcomics** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:01 pm

OK, I've caught up with what you posted so far! I'm loving it! My oldest daughter is 8, and we don't like many of the same comics. (Little Lulu is one the whole family can agree on, however.) But you have me thinking about seeing if I can get her to write reviews!

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