It's over folks....., err well let's hope not.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Thu May 12, 2011 6:10 am

arromdee wrote:I don't think a "hiatus" makes any sense as anything other than a cancellation. It's a licensed book, which means they're paying money for it. A real hiatus (with the possibility of restarting it later) would mean that they are still paying the money yet not putting anything out.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:25 am

Reminds me of when Acclaim put their books on "hiatus"

DAN

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:46 am

does that mean we should all head to the beach to get new issues?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:47 am

sonicdan wrote:Reminds me of when Acclaim put their books on "hiatus"
DAN

Ayup.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:37 pm

sonicdan wrote:Reminds me of when Acclaim put their books on "hiatus"
DAN

Which time was this?

They just stop publishing at the end. There was no hiatus at the end (unless you count the delays between issues, which means the Gold Key titles have been on 6 haituses so far). Acclaim stopped publshing it's current titles and the future titles that had been pitched never happened and Acclaim ceased to exist as a comics publsher.

Of course Acclaim was a video game company not a comic publisher. They were never able to make any money on the comic publshing as far as I know and never really got a grip on how to do it effectively in their breif time in the comic industry.

Dark Horse is a comic publisher. They've done it for decades, they do it well, and as far as I can tell, they have no intention of stopping. They've been publishing Gold Key material for close to a decade and Mike Richardson has wanted to put out new material with Gold Key characters for at least 20 years. It doesn't mean they'll continue with the line, but I do think they'd like to, as we've been told.

So it doesn't really remind me of Acclaim all that much (at least not yet).

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:11 pm

Well when the first volume of the Valiant books ended (under Acclaim) they said the characters would be back, possibly in mini series, one shots etc.
They did come back but not as we knew them before.
Rather they relaunched them as completely different characters. Some I enjoyed others I didn't. The original versions were not back however.
Then they abruptly canceled these books after about 2 years. Once again saying they would be back and to "stay tuned".
A side note they were plans to bring back the originals around this time but it was too late...
A bit later Shadowman V3 was launched (different) along with Armorines (better than original) and Quantum & Woody (same) which all led to Unity 2000.
We all know how that ended...or not. There were also plans to re-conceptualize Doctor Mirage, Master Darque, Bloodshot and Magnus that never materialized.
What I am saying is when I hear that something is on "hiatus" or "will be back!" I am a bit jaded. But that's just me. Maybe it won't be so bad.
Dark Horse has a better track record than Acclaim ever did but their handling of the line so far is not the most impressive.
There has been a pattern of wonderful announcements, getting hopes up, seeing a glimpse of how great something could be only to have it crash and burn...again and again (and again).
DAN

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Thu May 12, 2011 11:08 pm

A great timeline of Acclaim, Dan. Thank you, MUCH of that I didn't know, especially the two year break in action.

sonicdan wrote:A side note they were plans to bring back the originals around this time but it was too late...

This (dare I say it) could have been great.... I mean maybe. Can you elaborate any more on this ? Not to derail the thread but maybe this can somehow tie into the recent struggle to bring the GK characters back.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri May 13, 2011 12:02 am

Anyone got any clue why Solar #7 is back on the Dark Horse site? It's listed as having been released this week (though obviously it's not). Maybe May 11 was a previous release date for it? (though it is strange for it to just reappear) We know from the letterer's blog that the lettering should have finished last week (which I think would be the last step in the creative process). No other unreleased issues have reappeared yet.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Fri May 13, 2011 1:17 am

Knightt wrote:A great timeline of Acclaim, Dan. Thank you, MUCH of that I didn't know, especially the two year break in action.

Thanks Knightt, You bet! What I'm meaning to say is that the Acclaim Comics Valiant Heroes books ran for about 2 years before they were canceled
....or put on "hiatus"

(early '97 to late '98 or so). It was about a six months to a year as they gradually
started publishing again: Turok magazines, Shadowman V3, relaunched Q&W etc.

sonicdan wrote:A side note they were plans to bring back the originals around this time but it was too late...

Knightt wrote: This (dare I say it) could have been great.... I mean maybe. Can you elaborate any more on this ? Not to derail the thread but maybe this can somehow tie into the recent struggle to bring the GK characters back.

I know there had been mentions of a Ninjak V1 & V2 team-up at one point. This was shown in the Ninjak Valiant Voyeur.
I think Fabian wanted some sort of battle royal where fans would get to possibly vote for which versions would make the cut.
Remnants of this may have been the seeds of the Acclaim mandated Unity 2000.
Man, I can't believe it's been 10+ years already so details are fuzzy.
I hope this helps a bit tho!
DAN

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:49 am

Thanks for the info Dan.

All learnens in some goods learnerns.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:55 am

Todd Luck wrote:Anyone got any clue why Solar #7 is back on the Dark Horse site? It's listed as having been released this week (though obviously it's not). Maybe May 11 was a previous release date for it? (though it is strange for it to just reappear) We know from the letterer's blog that the lettering should have finished last week (which I think would be the last step in the creative process). No other unreleased issues have reappeared yet.

That's a good question. Everything's an enigma when it comes to figuring this stuff out.

StarBrand · Post by **StarBrand** » Fri May 13, 2011 8:56 am

Elveen wrote:Thanks for the info Dan.

All learnens in some goods learnerns.

Yeah, thanks for the info. Very interesting stuff.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri May 13, 2011 9:58 pm

StarBrand wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:Anyone got any clue why Solar #7 is back on the Dark Horse site? It's listed as having been released this week (though obviously it's not). Maybe May 11 was a previous release date for it? (though it is strange for it to just reappear) We know from the letterer's blog that the lettering should have finished last week (which I think would be the last step in the creative process). No other unreleased issues have reappeared yet.
That's a good question. Everything's an enigma when it comes to figuring this stuff out.

Issue 7 is now on the website for July 11 (about 2 monthes after issue 6 shipped). If they could settle into that on all the books I could definately live with that (the original schedule was every 6 weeks anyway). So it definately seems like they're putting out the issues to finish the current plotlines (I assume they'll be adding them to the online shipping lists when they get the books done or close to done now)

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Sat May 14, 2011 5:17 am

That's a good sign (penciling July comic pick up date...)

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:28 pm

I just noticed July 11 which Solar 7 is listed on is on a Monday, not a Wednesday. Maybe they meant July 13? Or could the online listing just be a weird mistake?

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri May 20, 2011 7:36 pm

I'm out of town for a weeks and all this happens. It's not really that surprising though. I thought one of the biggest blows to the line was Solar #1. It had huge numbers but I think the terrible art really killed it for the casual fan. If they had only started with Solar 5 and the origin story....

Turok and Magnus have been great, but as we know the lateness has been a huge problem. I really hope we at least get some mini-series to see the origin stories

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Fri May 20, 2011 8:52 pm

Ryan wrote:It's not really that surprising though. I thought one of the biggest blows to the line was Solar #1. It had huge numbers but I think the terrible art really killed it for the casual fan.

Yep. You nailed it.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:08 pm

Well a bit of a downer on an GREAT day as I took Solar, Magnus, Turok and Samson off my Pull List from DCBS. I think I am paid up to the point in which they may stop... if they go further then I will play catch-up.

Ah well, I added other titles... I have this need to make sure I do my part to keep comics 'alive'. At least I am getting a decent enough discount.

Sorry to see the DH books go... maybe someday I can add Valiant back to the pull list.

96Valiantfan · Post by **96Valiantfan** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:12 pm

Sorry to see the DH books go... maybe someday I can add Valiant back to the pull list.[/quote]

x2

Destro777 · Post by **Destro777** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:29 am

Pretty sad but...
My LCS is one of the largest in the Pittsburgh, PA area. There's always tons of people in there at all times of the day. Its been there quite a while and does very well. I see tons of customers leaving there with HUGE stacks every week. Jim Shooter is from this area of course and even came by there to sign things just this past Spring.

Anyways, I told the LCS manager the news of this line being put on hiatus/possible cancellation. He told me I was the ONLY PERSON buying these books. He said "I can see that happening because for our store for instance, the sales were YOU". I know this doesn't speak for everywhere but its pretty telling.

I hope the new Valiant at least has a chance of succeeding - you'd thing there would be SOME old time Valiant fans around this area checking out Shooter's Dark Key books. They call me the "Valiant guy" at that shop like im the only one who still talks about it and buy back issues, heh.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:44 am

Destro777 wrote:
Anyways, I told the LCS manager the news of this line being put on hiatus/possible cancellation. He told me I was the ONLY PERSON buying these books. He said "I can see that happening because for our store for instance, the sales were YOU". I know this doesn't speak for everywhere but its pretty telling.
.

Yikes! I can see the sales being low, but one person? Not good...

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:59 pm

Destro777 wrote:Pretty sad but...
My LCS is one of the largest in the Pittsburgh, PA area. There's always tons of people in there at all times of the day. Its been there quite a while and does very well. I see tons of customers leaving there with HUGE stacks every week. Jim Shooter is from this area of course and even came by there to sign things just this past Spring.

Anyways, I told the LCS manager the news of this line being put on hiatus/possible cancellation. He told me I was the ONLY PERSON buying these books. He said "I can see that happening because for our store for instance, the sales were YOU". I know this doesn't speak for everywhere but its pretty telling.

I hope the new Valiant at least has a chance of succeeding - you'd thing there would be SOME old time Valiant fans around this area checking out Shooter's Dark Key books. They call me the "Valiant guy" at that shop like im the only one who still talks about it and buy back issues, heh.

Which comic shop are you talking in Pittsburgh? South Hills? If so, I'm on the pull list there!

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:17 pm

Destro777 wrote:They call me the "Valiant guy" at that shop like im the only one who still talks about it and buy back issues, heh.

Many of us here get that very same thing... A LOT.

Or in my case (also) the Ultraverse guy or the Crossgen Guy or the Eclipse guy and so on. Many times I feel like an outcast from the looney bin out on my weekly walkabout

Welcome to the board !!

Destro777 · Post by **Destro777** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:40 am

kevinbastos wrote:Which comic shop are you talking in Pittsburgh? South Hills? If so, I'm on the pull list there!

New Dimension Comics. I know the mall is dying, but the one in Century III West Mifflin. There's ALWAYS tons of people in there at all times of the day, its crazy. You wouldnt know the comic scene is dying based off that shop. Theres a couple NDC shops around the area too.

The NDC at CIII runs its own show every November, and Jim Shooter came to this recent one. I wasnt able to make it though

Shooter is from Bethel Park I think or somewhere still around here. Its wild seeing all the Pittsburgh references/places in his early Valiant Work. In Magnus number 1 - the rouge robots are holed up in an old nuclear plant in the "Allegheny Section" called "The Bettis sector". The Bettis nuclear plant is right near me (Allegheny county PA).

Knightt wrote:Many of us here get that very same thing... A LOT.

Or in my case (also) the Ultraverse guy or the Crossgen Guy or the Eclipse guy and so on. Many times I feel like an outcast from the looney bin out on my weekly walkabout

Hehe. Thats ok tho - the Marvel/DC only peeps dont know what theyre missing! Our shop had a $3 sale on older TPB recently (it might even have been $1, cant remember). While I was browsing thru it, I was trying to tell people to give this Harbinger and X-O trade a look, and even then people wouldnt buy it. heh, oh well...
Thanks for the welcome. I dont post much - but ive been re-reading some Valiants this summer and was browsing this board again.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:44 pm

I'm in the South Hills - my LCS is Pittsburgh Comics - a former New Dimension site - but I think he went rogue, or severed ties in some way. If you're far enough out, come check him out. He actually just doubled his shop size, and has a HUGE amount of stuff in the basement.