NVU without Magnus and Solar

[wokuya]

I stand by this:

Should New Valiant Use Replacements For Gold Key Characters?
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:39 am

Lunar, Man of the Electron.

Sterling, Android Slayer.

[The Dirt Gang]

I hope this incarnation of Valiant includes some dinos at some point. I always loved that about Valiant. The first Valiant comic I picked up was the last chapter of Unity and I was blown away with all the different genre's at play. Still one of my favorite moments is when Aric gets bit in half by the robo-dino (what were they called?) and the good skin comes to his aid.

I was disappointed that Solar and Magnus weren't part of the new universe but at this point I would rather them not be.

[Man Of The Atom]

I still have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Solar or Magnus...

I hope that turns out to be the case.

Me to. I think the longer Valiant sticks around, the better our chances of seeing them again.
And hopefully Turok.

[StarBrand]

I still have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Solar or Magnus...

I hope that turns out to be the case.

Me to. I think the longer Valiant sticks around, the better our chances of seeing them again.
And hopefully Turok.

Welcome to the board, MOTA!!!

[superman-prime]

THey will return to a universe near you

[etos45]

I still have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Solar or Magnus...

I hope that turns out to be the case.

Me to. I think the longer Valiant sticks around, the better our chances of seeing them again.
And hopefully Turok.

Welcome to the board, MOTA!!!

And, yeah, welcome to the boards!

[superman-prime]

Mota 2.0 ?

[etos45]

I'll miss Solar the most. I liked an all-powerful hero who had that interesting origin story. After X-O, this was my favorite Valiant comic. Warren Simons and company can get creative and give us new, but similar concepts to these three characters. When it comes to Dark Horse selling these guys back to Valiant though, I'm a glass half empty guy. I read an nterview with Simons in the Comic Shop News and it seems like Valiant is going forward, knowing that these characters will not be in their future.

I just can't see Dark Horse letting these characters go. Not any time soon, anyways. As far as I'm concerned, the characters will be missed (especially Solar, for me) but Valiant is better off sticking with their own licensed characters.

[myron]

Mota 2.0 ?

not unless michael moved to SF...this is M O T A not MoTA

[etos45]

Mota 2.0 ?

not unless michael moved to SF...this is M O T A not MoTA

I actually had to go check the members list, I thought maybe his user name had been deleted.

[MoonChild]

Yea, dark horse will hold onto them in spite! lol. Too bad Valiant dont really need em! And plus they have the money to regain em if they so chose

[superman-prime]

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

[myron]

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

+1

just don't think it will be Dino et al.

[stp1503]

I am sure that the new Valiant universe is going to be fantastic but I'm hoping that somewhere down the road they could get their hands on Magnus, Solar and Turok. A company wide crossover, like Unity, would be a great way to re-inroduce them. Those characters are dying at Dark Horse.

[greg]

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

+1

just don't think it will be Dino et al.

Dark Horse doesn't own them.

Dark Horse licensed them the same way Valiant licensed them back in the day.

The owner is still Random House (who bought Gold Key).

[jmatt]

Still one of my favorite moments is when Aric gets bit in half by the robo-dino (what were they called?) and the good skin comes to his aid..

Bionosaurs. And yeah, that's the panel that hooked me. Not only did it look cool but I was like "What publisher would have a character as powerful as X-O get bitten in half by a robot T-Rex?..."

[jmatt]

mis-post

[Dr. Solar]

Still one of my favorite moments is when Aric gets bit in half by the robo-dino (what were they called?) and the good skin comes to his aid..

Bionosaurs. And yeah, that's the panel that hooked me. Not only did it look cool but I was like "What publisher would have a character as powerful as X-O get bitten in half by a cyborg T-Rex?..."

The almighty self quote.

[Daniel Jackson]

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

+1

just don't think it will be Dino et al.

Dark Horse doesn't own them.

Dark Horse licensed them the same way Valiant licensed them back in the day.

The owner is still Random House (who bought Gold Key).

After seeing the miserable way the Dark Horse GK relaunch went, it sure looked like they didn't really care about the characters all that much. Don't forget about the Ibooks Magnus either, another total failure. The only real success anyone has had with them is when they were in the original VU. I think DH should cut their losses and let the license go to someone who appreciates the characters.

[jmatt]

Personally, I don't need Solar. Not really into all powerful characters (Supes, Solar....)

I agree, where's the danger in a character that can't be hurt? But the interesting part is seeing the writer find ways to place him in peril or no-win situations. Plus, that archetype is a great asset as a Deus Ex Machina that can shake up the other titles in ways not possible without him.

[jmatt]

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

I'm of two minds on this: Regaining the GK characters would seem almost like too much of a retread ("been there-done that). But introducing new characters falling into those same roles could result in a lot of eye-rolling. I'm torn.

[MoonChild]

I would never expect VEI to create some new generic mock-ups of these characters.

[MoonChild]

So true, hopefully greed wont make em have to sit on a dusty shelf for years again.

if the right amount of money comes along DH will sell them

+1

just don't think it will be Dino et al.

Dark Horse doesn't own them.

Dark Horse licensed them the same way Valiant licensed them back in the day.

The owner is still Random House (who bought Gold Key).

After seeing the miserable way the Dark Horse GK relaunch went, it sure looked like they didn't really care about the characters all that much. Don't forget about the Ibooks Magnus either, another total failure. The only real success anyone has had with them is when they were in the original VU. I think DH should cut their losses and let the license go to someone who appreciates the characters.

[jmatt]

I would never expect VEI to create some new generic mock-ups of these characters.

No, but it's very possible they recognize the same strengths these elements brought to the table the first time around and try to fill them with something similar but different.

I've been toying with the idea of a 4001 AD world that looks more like ... dare I say it ... Warriors of Plasm than the North Am of Magnus. A future where tree-hugging cloddies rely on genetically engineered servants rather than robots.

There's potential there. Similar but different. Possible themes: the balance between the needs of man and nature; free will as an expression of mind over the dictates of genetics; gaia and the role of man as the planet's defender against outside forces.

[drmirage]

Maybe Dark Horse can sub-lease the characters to VEI since they have currently have them. Maybe the want lots of $$$ or waiting for an offer from VEI.

Or Random house can sell the characters to VEI.

I do not think Dark Horse will be using any of these characters anytime soon. Or how about a Dark Horse / VEI crossover.

If VEI doest not have any rights to licensing, how was VEI able to reprint the A&A hardcover. Those had Unity issues that included Gold Key characters.