NVU without Magnus and Solar

[Daniel Jackson]

I have always LOVED Magnus and I desperately want him in the NVU!

That being said, I would like to see Valiant make it on the strength of it's own characters the first year. Once they get a good foothold among the fans, THEN spend a lil money leasing the characters from Classic Media.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they ever DO bring back the Gold Key characters - do it with NO hype (at first). Make it a HUGE surprise reveal and blow us away! (I doubt this could happen because with the internet, the news will spread like wildfire anyway!).

That would be super cool to turn over a page and suddenly see Magnus or Solar in a panel.

Yeah, and make it with no lines. Like, they're just in the background of another story buying a cheeseburger or something.

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

[etos45]

I have always LOVED Magnus and I desperately want him in the NVU!

That being said, I would like to see Valiant make it on the strength of it's own characters the first year. Once they get a good foothold among the fans, THEN spend a lil money leasing the characters from Classic Media.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they ever DO bring back the Gold Key characters - do it with NO hype (at first). Make it a HUGE surprise reveal and blow us away! (I doubt this could happen because with the internet, the news will spread like wildfire anyway!).

That would be super cool to turn over a page and suddenly see Magnus or Solar in a panel.

Yeah, and make it with no lines. Like, they're just in the background of another story buying a cheeseburger or something.

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

Solar could have his red suit on with a business suit over it.

[BugsySig]

I have always LOVED Magnus and I desperately want him in the NVU!

That being said, I would like to see Valiant make it on the strength of it's own characters the first year. Once they get a good foothold among the fans, THEN spend a lil money leasing the characters from Classic Media.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they ever DO bring back the Gold Key characters - do it with NO hype (at first). Make it a HUGE surprise reveal and blow us away! (I doubt this could happen because with the internet, the news will spread like wildfire anyway!).

That would be super cool to turn over a page and suddenly see Magnus or Solar in a panel.

Yeah, and make it with no lines. Like, they're just in the background of another story buying a cheeseburger or something.

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

Solar could have his red suit on with a business suit over it.

And Magnus could have a shirt, tie and jacket with his little skirt on the bottom

[etos45]

I have always LOVED Magnus and I desperately want him in the NVU!

That being said, I would like to see Valiant make it on the strength of it's own characters the first year. Once they get a good foothold among the fans, THEN spend a lil money leasing the characters from Classic Media.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they ever DO bring back the Gold Key characters - do it with NO hype (at first). Make it a HUGE surprise reveal and blow us away! (I doubt this could happen because with the internet, the news will spread like wildfire anyway!).

That would be super cool to turn over a page and suddenly see Magnus or Solar in a panel.

Yeah, and make it with no lines. Like, they're just in the background of another story buying a cheeseburger or something.

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

Genius, pure genius!
Solar could have his red suit on with a business suit over it.

And Magnus could have a shirt, tie and jacket with his little skirt on the bottom

[jmatt]

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

"Please take a seat, Mister... Majnus, is it?"

"Magnus".

"Ah, yes, my apologies. So how can we help you Mr. Magnus?"

"I'm here to apply for a robot fighting position."

"Oh, a human resource issue. I wasn't aware we'd solicited for a robot fighter."

"I'm not sure that you have. But my third tier of unemployment insurance is about to run out, so here I am."

"I understand. The problem is that at present, we don't really have any work for a robot fighter. Can you type?"

"Not really. But I am very, very good at fighting robots. If you'll just take a look at my resume..."

"Hmm, well, it says here that you swore off robot fighting for North Am at one point. Now, as I undertand it, the entire continent of North Am was shortly thereafter reduced to rubble during the Malev Invasion."

"Not this again..." <sigh>

[Daniel Jackson]

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

"Please take a seat, Mister... Majnus, is it?"

"Magnus".

"Ah, yes, my apologies. So how can we help you Mr. Magnus?"

"I'm here to apply for a robot fighting position."

"Oh, a human resource issue. I wasn't aware we'd solicited for a robot fighter."

"I'm not sure that you have. But my third tier of unemployment insurance is about to run out, so here I am."

"I understand. The problem is that at present, we don't really have any work for a robot fighter. Can you type?"

"Not really. But I am very, very good at fighting robots. If you'll just take a look at my resume..."

"Hmm, well, it says here that you swore off robot fighting for North Am at one point. Now, as I undertand it, the entire continent of North Am was shortly thereafter reduced to rubble during the Malev Invasion."

"Not this again..." <sigh>

Hahahaha....for the last part Magnus should have said, "all I can say about that is, does the name Keith Giffen ring a bell?"

[BugsySig]

Or show both of them carrying resumes and entering the building where VEI has their office....

"Please take a seat, Mister... Majnus, is it?"

"Magnus".

"Ah, yes, my apologies. So how can we help you Mr. Magnus?"

"I'm here to apply for a robot fighting position."

"Oh, a human resource issue. I wasn't aware we'd solicited for a robot fighter."

"I'm not sure that you have. But my third tier of unemployment insurance is about to run out, so here I am."

"I understand. The problem is that at present, we don't really have any work for a robot fighter. Can you type?"

"Not really. But I am very, very good at fighting robots. If you'll just take a look at my resume..."

"Hmm, well, it says here that you swore off robot fighting for North Am at one point. Now, as I undertand it, the entire continent of North Am was shortly thereafter reduced to rubble during the Malev Invasion."

"Not this again..." <sigh>

Someone who does fan art needs to get on this right away.

I keep imagining: "Turok: Indian Casino Pit Boss"

[kevinbastos]

This thread had taken a big rant... But the guy's smile is upside down.

Hysterical, kids.

[jmatt]

This thread had taken a big rant... But the guy's smile is upside down.

Hey, we went 4 pages before we got here. That's pretty good, it usually happens on page 2.

[davidb]

Update on this today from Bleeding Cool - it looks like Classic Media may be getting bought by Dreamworks. If that happens, VEI may have made the right decision in building the universe without the Gold Key 3.

[The Dirt Gang]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

[lorddunlow]

Make him the future child of Pete and Kris who has travelled back in time after being raised by robots following the Harbinger War.

Solar needs to be the son of Magnus who travels back in time and fathers Torque.

I'm with Greg. All for the I'm my own grandpa thing!

On a serious note, I do hope that at least Solar returns as he was definitely my favorite of the VH1 universe.

[drmirage]

VEI does not need Solar, Magnus and Turok. VEI can always come up with something to replace these characters or re-make them similarly.

To deal with Dreamworks will be $$$ just to get these characters. How much will it cost to license the characters or to buy the characters? a few milllion? It'll be hard for VEI to see the return on investment.

VEI can sell 45K of XO#1. The net profit after all expenses is not a lot if you do the numbers. If VEI has to spend $$$ that can potentially bankrupt them if they can't sell the books.

Look at the Dark Key books. Totally didn't live up to its potential.

If I were VEI, I would talk with Dreamworks and inform them that these characters aren't worth anything. Perhaps the will just give it to VEI or sell them for almost nothing.

Its difficult to deal with characters and property because everyone ants to make $$.

[The Dirt Gang]

Make him the future child of Pete and Kris who has travelled back in time after being raised by robots following the Harbinger War.

Solar needs to be the son of Magnus who travels back in time and fathers Torque.

I'm with Greg. All for the I'm my own grandpa thing!

On a serious note, I do hope that at least Solar returns as he was definitely my favorite of the VH1 universe.

Only if Solar's mother, is a member of the Vine.

[magnusr]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

Wait, do I read that right? Is the high bid $150 million for the right to collect $376 million annually?

/Magnus

[davidb]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

And that list isn't including the fact that they've also got the Defiant and Broadway universes.

[Cyberstrike]

Does VEI own the Defiant and Broadway characters as well? I loved Warriors of Plasm but not sure how it would work in the Valiant universe.

No they don't and really I think they should stay out of Valiant all together. I rather see those properties on their own as a Shooterverse since they are practically 100% Shooter products

I disagree. I think that "Fatale", "Powers That Be / Starseed", and Knights on Broadway could be easily and beneficially incorporated into the new VEI universe in ways that could really enhance tightness of a shared universe and continuity. Not so sure about Shadow State though.

Valiant should stay away from Defiant and Broadway they would end up making a mess.

Now if it was just Defiant and Broadway that might actually work since IMHO Broadway felt more like the second wave of Defiant Universe.

But throwing Valiant/Acclaim, Defiant and Broadway together would be a huge mess.

[caxiotis]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

Wait, do I read that right? Is the high bid $150 million for the right to collect $376 million annually?

/Magnus

It said last they made $376M, so you can only assume they will make similar money this year. Sounds like a good deal for $150M

[etos45]

Update on this today from Bleeding Cool - it looks like Classic Media may be getting bought by Dreamworks. If that happens, VEI may have made the right decision in building the universe without the Gold Key 3.

I think it was definitely in Valiant's best interest to avoid these characters. I'm with everyone else that if they can't own them outright, they should avoid the hell out of them.

[vikingspawn]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

And that list isn't including the fact that they've also got the Defiant and Broadway universes.

I would buy this if they turned it into "Dreamworks Comics" with Jim Shooter as EIC.

Maybe Steven Spielberg is a Shooter fan too.

[jmatt]

Update on this today from Bleeding Cool - it looks like Classic Media may be getting bought by Dreamworks.

Methinks Stephen has a little Marvel envy...

[Chiclo]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/728331- ... hould-care

Here's a piece about the possible purchase. I didn't realize Classic Media owned so many well known characters. I don't think it really makes any sense for VEI to ever reintroduce the Gold Key characters unless they were able to buy them outright which doesn't look like it would happen.

And that list isn't including the fact that they've also got the Defiant and Broadway universes.

I would buy this if they turned it into "Dreamworks Comics" with Jim Shooter as EIC.

Maybe Steven Spielberg is a Shooter fan too.

I dunno. I'd stay away from Shooter. He seems pretty toxic.

[etos45]

I would buy this if they turned it into "Dreamworks Comics" with Jim Shooter as EIC.

Maybe Steven Spielberg is a Shooter fan too.

I dunno. I'd stay away from Shooter. He seems pretty toxic.

As long as it's not at Valiant, I say give him a shot.

[jmatt]

I would buy this if they turned it into "Dreamworks Comics" with Jim Shooter as EIC.

Maybe Steven Spielberg is a Shooter fan too.

I dunno. I'd stay away from Shooter. He seems pretty toxic.

As long as it's not at Valiant, I say give him a shot.

And if it was at Valiant, between the eyes.

[etos45]

I would buy this if they turned it into "Dreamworks Comics" with Jim Shooter as EIC.

Maybe Steven Spielberg is a Shooter fan too.

I dunno. I'd stay away from Shooter. He seems pretty toxic.

As long as it's not at Valiant, I say give him a shot.

And if it was at Valiant, between the eyes.

Part of me wants to say the other is all